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[–] 235 points 8 months ago (33 children)

Will Smith would have been disastrous in The Matrix and now I want to see it

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  • [–] [S] 38 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Imagine the tie-in music video he would have done.

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  • [+] 101 points 8 months ago* (9 children)
  • [–] 89 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    If memory serves me right the protagonist in Inception was confused a lot and Wil can pull off confused.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If memory serves me right the protagonist in Inception was confused a lot

    Dicarpio's character wasn't confused, you may be thinking of Elliot Page's character, but I wouldn't count that character as the main protagonist.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I get what you mean/agree, but to play devil's advocate, his character in Enemy of the State could've sorta worked as Neo.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It is crazy how I always think of that movie as "early career Will Smith before he became famous quippy superstar" but it released between Men In Black and Wild Wild West.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Don't forget Will Smith was a Rapper and DJ first, ended up deep in a financial hole because he didn't save any money for taxes following his musical success, took the role on Fresh Prince to try to keep the lights on and then Fresh Prince ended up being super successful and leading him to his second and even more successful career in acting

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Agreed, but I also firmly believe there is another universe in which we could believably type “Keanu Reeves would have been disastrous in The Matrix”

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    It would have been a very different movie. So, maybe people couldn't picture Keanu in that forgettable action comedy called The Matrix. But, Keanu did show he could do comedy. His first big movie was Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. He'd also done Parenthood. In addition, he'd shown he could do action movies / thrillers with a bit of comedy when he did Speed, and fairly serious action movies with Point Break.

    Will Smith has done plenty of action movies, but all of them are at least somewhat comedic. He's shown he can do serious roles too, like Happyness, 7 Pounds, etc. But, I don't think you'd hire him for a science fiction action movie without having him do some comedy. I'm sure Will Smith could do a straight dramatic science fiction action movie with no comedy, but AFAIK he's never done it.

    IMO Keanu is a much more limited actor than Will Smith. But, The Matrix played to his strengths.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    There are Ai clips now on YouTube where they replace actors in famous movies, like putting Tom Cruise in the matrix or whatever.

    I dont watch them because I dont want my nice memories of these movies to be overwritten, but it shows how easy it is today to do.

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    well , excuse me for the AI haters out there. But we gotta do this.

    Seedance, c'mon boy, DO IT!!!

    Will Smith as NEO in the Matrix.

    EDIT: I found one, a year old but it checks out

    It's a reddit post

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago*

    You get that we wanted dialogue right? We can all imagine Will Smith in a leather jacket with slow motion bullets moving around him.

    Every time someone who is pro AI tries to advocate for it it always comes off as their brain having turned to porridge. You get we can see that image in our minds, we don't need it visualised for us at the expense of half an olympic swimming pool worth of water and at least six trees.

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  • [+] -13 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] [S] 20 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    It's just an infinite number of Will Smiths eating an infinite amount of spaghetti.

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  • [–] 146 points 8 months ago (17 children)

    Sean Connery turned down both Gandalf in Lord of the Rings and Morpheus in The Matrix because he didn't understand the scripts. He turned down Dumbledore in Harry Potter because it was too fantastical. Then he tried a reverse approach where he accepted the next role he didn't understand, because clearly that was where the money was at. So he accepted Allan Quartermain in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a movie which flopped hard. Then he ragequit the industry and retired.

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  • [–] 86 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I love that movie, I thought he did great in it too

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago*

    Same here. It’s a fun action romp with some interesting characters. I get that it’s not peak cinema but it’s still good.

    Some of the CGI in it is insanely good too (the invisible man), Corridor Crew did a react episode or two about it.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    He was interviewed by Czech TV during the premiere and was asked if the viewers should go see it. He said that he's getting paid for every ticket sold and therefore yes! Everyone should see it!

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I recently rewatched it and it was a good romp for sure. I never read the comics but apparently it was super unlike the comics it was based on which was part of its problem. Generally pissing off your core audience of fans in an adaptation is bad for the outcome of the movie

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Worked for Constantine!

    That's the only one I know of.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Sean Connery also came out of retirement to be part of this monstrosity

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Holy shit, I never even heard of that, and the poster gives me an idea why. Was this by request from his grandkids or something?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    According the Wikipedia page he did it as a favor to the creators. They do not have their own Wikipedia page so I have no idea how they know him. The film was pretty much universally hated for virtually every aspect.

    Sir Billi received extremely negative reviews from critics and audiences. On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 0%, based on eight reviews, with an average rating of 2.3/10. On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 17 out of 100, based on 4 critics, indicating "overwhelming dislike".

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    [–] 50 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm so glad he skips movies he would have ruined

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  • [–] 43 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Will smiths thing is most similar to dwayne johnson, he wanted to be the LEAD or the most prominent actor and not the side character

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  • [+] 41 points 8 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    A cool thing about being tone deaf is that I can't tell who voices who.

    A sad thing is I can't tell hot water vs cold water being poured. Finding out people could do that seemed like a super power to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    How is this different from regular deafness?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    The problem is that there's no such thing as "regular" deafness (same for blindness). It's a spectrum with several different types.

    You can be deaf but still capable of hearing, and you can be blind and still be capable of seeing. Although in a diminished capacity.

    In the case of being tone deaf, you struggle to differentiate different pitches.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    He also turned down Django Unchained. Will Smith is just shit at picking roles.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    he's also extremely dedicated to maintaining his brand. turning down Django Unchained does feel like a HUGE wiff to me though. Django is basically Deadshot if Deadshot lived in the Antebellum South (presumably after the California gold rush since he spends some time in Colorado). maybe Tarantino films can't ever fit the Will Smith toxic positivity brand?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Yea, but isn't a kind of big part of his brand that he is technically family friendly? Like he didn't use bad language in his music and stuff, right? Django Unchained but rated PG-13 would have been an entirely different movie...

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  • [+] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I honestly can't think of the last will smith movie I enjoyed

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Gemini was kind of entertaining, but I wouldn't go as far as calling it "good".

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    [–] 29 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    He slapped a man on national television because he made a joke about his wife. That wasn't even a mean joke, it was just in somewhat bad taste. (He was also laughing at the joke until he saw his wife roll her eyes at it)

    He is quite dumb

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    She's basically his boss tbh. It does not seem like a healthy relationship

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    He didn't want to have to go home in the same limo with her screaming at him for not defending her in front of the whole world. So he destroyed his Oscar winning night, his reputation, and his career, because he was too afraid of her acting like a psychopath.

    And she probably did it anyway.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    maybe he just didnt get the point of the story or something. I dont think you can act well if you cant get into the character

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I'm sure Keano was the right choice there. I could see him handling the Matrix if he walked into it in bewilderment like the original Men in Black movie. He'd be fine up until somewhere around the Oracle. I think when things started coming together, and he needed to start commanding his own destiny, the suspension of disbelief would have dropped.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Ever heard about his wife?

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    Nah sure, giant mecha-spider in the Wild West is more straightforward I guess.

    (Speaking of which Kevin Smith did a ride of a story about a superman movie that never got made, which ties into that very same Mecha-spider)

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  • [+] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Oh I’m not knocking it, I thought it was a good movie. Hell I should watch it again sometime.

    Will Smith has that particular balance between a huge blockbuster story but bringing it with his particular comedy factor. I don’t like him as much in serious tone stuff. In that regard he probably made the right choice with the Matrix.

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    This feels like a spot-the-difference thing, and I’m failing badly. I can’t tell what changed.

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