Crossover hours? Warhammer 40,000 (media.piefed.social)
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[–] 3 points 8 months ago

@PugJesus That doesn't sound like StarWars at all.40k, oh yes, obviously. And it'd be spread on so many planets because... [unexplained currently. maybe explained in new lore in 10 years]

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I’m not a Star Wars fan so I don’t know the timeline of when the Sarlacc lore was fleshed out, but I imagine the bit about being digested over a thousand years was added to the movie script because it sounded cool, then the real nerds had to try to explain how that could make any sense in universe.

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    [–] 117 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    Impossibly ancient sith Lord spending millennia using the force to escape a sarlacc and arriving just as the empire falls and the new republic is trying to start would have been so much better than "somehow... Palpatine returned"

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  • [–] 53 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Could even tie in to other lore like Boba Fett's escape, but nope. Clones again

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    IMO Boba's escape precludes the sarlacc from being able to contain a sith lord.

    All canon/noncanon stories essentially have Boba blowing his way out with thermal detonators and/or subsequently being spat out.

    I feel like the only reason that method of escape wouldn't be common knowledge is because of how rare sarlaccs are to begin with.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Also canonically (at least before Disney acquired Star Wars) when he fell into the pit in ROTJ it was his THIRD time in the pit! So he had fallen in, gotten out, fallen in at a later incident, gotten out, and then fallen in the third time on screen and gotten out (off-screen). In a massive galaxy with millions of planets and stuff what kind of shit luck or coincidence would you need for that to happen?

    While I didn't watch the later season of the Mandalorian or the Book of Boba Fett, I did see a part where some scattered pieces of the Sarlacc were all over the desert, meaning he wanted to make sure he never fell in again by blowing the shit out of the Sarlacc. Smart move, I wanted to see that when I was a kid since the Sarlacc really did frighten me as a kid.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    ROTJ it was his THIRD time in the pit!

    Wait what??? I've found 3 different versions of how he got out during ROTJ, depending on material. Never heard of him getting out of a sarlacc more than once tho.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Genuinely considered Boba Fett's escape being the catalyst that sets the guy free. Could even retcon in that the only reason either worked was because of the other. Boba fett's bombs could only weaken it because of the psychic battle it was already in, sith guy won the psychic battle because the sarlacc was distracted by the bombs.

    Could even capitalize on book of Boba fett by having fett play a reluctant hero role for the new cast, informing them of the sith guy's plans because they were both connected through the sarlacc so there was some bleed over.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Palapatine was never in the Sarlaac?

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Fuck, i love this so much as an idea, or what if the Sith Lord's consciousness became dominant rather than merged. The only problem is that Boba Fett cut himself out of one with some armor shards and hatred. An ancient sith lord could probably wear one as a hat.

    Extra idea, Sith Lord's consciousness has been waiting for a perfect force sensitive victim to fall in, so they can transfer to that body, Naruto style.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    If they're in the same sarlacc, maybe Boba only managed it because the sarlacc was currently weakened by the psychic battle with the sith lord. Who in turn capitalizes on the distraction caused by Boba to then escape himself.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Palpatine in the last star wars movie was the dumbest thing I ever heard.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    So much better than "somehow palpatine returned" huh? Insert, Do you know how little that narrows it down meme

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago

    Because it was a Dune reference.

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  • [–] 67 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The tech to film at that resolution doesn't exist, and even if it did we don't have any devices capable of playback at such high resolution. You're way past diminishing returns, why do yiu think there's no 8K widespread yet??

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Wouldn’t you die of starvation/dehydration long before being digested, leaving no conciousness to absorb?

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    The absorbtion process provides food and water, you're essentially part of the beasts body tissue.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Sounds like this violates the laws of thermodynamics.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Only if the people absorbed are the creature's only source of energy.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah it could be like carnivorous plants on earth, where they can get a decent amount of nutrients from the soil and through photosynthesis but they still need to eat flies and whatnot to get fully enough nutrients.

    Although given the thousand year digestion it would make more sense if they digestion is a form of reproduction or life extension than if it's for nutrient gain

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    I always figured that "digested over a thousand years" was a bit of a misnomer. I'm inclined to think that the almighty sarlacc incorporates its victims into its own biology, and uses them up over a thousand years. Like, you spend a thousand years as an unwilling gall bladder in the depths of the sarlacc, until the process very slowly eventually kills you.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They're called tyranids. They're in 40k ... They literally consume whole planets and take things from the genetic code of the various species they've made contact with. They're a hive mind entity.

    Sure, it's no pit in the ground eating someone for a stupid long time but it's pretty close.

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    If it was 40k, as the sarlac consumed more souls it would gain the ability to manipulate people into feeding it more with increased power. It would also be capable of growing to the point it could consume planets.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago* (20 children)

    This little bit of lore tries to be so horrifying with its “slow digestion over a thousand years” but wouldn’t you be dead from lack of water within 2 days?

    (mad scramble)

    “Acksully no, the Sarlaac taps into your bloodstream to provide you with sustenance the whole time so you stay alive and conscious.”

    Okay but lifespans are not 1000 years even.

    (madder scramble)

    “Ackshully the Saralaac rewrites your DNA to extend your lifespan so you can be conscious over 1000 years.”

    Wow that’s pretty impressive. How many species is its process compatible with? And how does such a lengthy expenditure of energy make sense, nutritionally? It takes more energy to keep a human body alive for 1000 years than the Sarlaac can possibly derive from one human corpse.

    (mad mad mad mad scramble, this time using the Force)

    “IT’S STAR WARS OKAY. STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL DETAILED.”

    Haven’t you been adding all the details?

    “Mods! Rule 1!”

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe, and hear me out, it feels like it takes thousands of years.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    My headcanon (and actually reading the wiki, it is pretty much canon) is that none of this is actually true, but just stories past down over generations.

    We hear of the whole being digested over 1000 years thing from Jabba (translated by C-3PO) while he's threatening them with execution, so it's not exactly reliable info.

    In fact evidence actually points to the contrary, from the wiki:

    During Boba Fett's escape, he spotted the body of a stormtrooper that was likely part of a search party years before. Despite this, the stomach acid of the sarlacc was still potent enough to have dissolved holes in the stormtrooper's armor and scar Boba Fett after only hours of exposure.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    probably only needed your brain,and memories, while your body dissolves away. like how several movie genre had this similar monsters, slither, thing, "doctor who, sarah jane adventures(had a monster that absorbs humans and takes thier conscieness"

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Even with star wars woowoo magic, there's no way this wouldnt be a net loss of energy to the degree of absolute ridiculousness lol like the victims would have to get so much energy input from the creature to stay alive for millennia so what would the point be

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Who says the Sarlax eats things for nutrition?

    Most carnivorous plants don't actually need to eat bugs to survive. They just.. do?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Most carnivorous plants don't actually need to eat bugs to survive

    Source pls.

    Most of those plants live in extremely nutritionally poor ground, so when you grow them at home and they have nutrition, they wouldn't require eating I guess.

    But evolution did not make flycatcher plants just for the lulz.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    The most reasonable, if not most accurate, scifi biology I have seen is in HBO's miniseries, Scavengers. I'm not an expert, but as someone with biology degree, I never really questioned the evolution and biology portrayed in the show. Except for a few creative liberties of course, I watch the show and my mind goes "interesting and it makes sense". Most SciFi shows don't really even go into the detail as to why xenobiology even develop the biological features that they do.

    Going back to the Sarlaac pit, how did it even get so big if there is not enough nutrients to consume to go around? That's also assuming that there is so much oxygen in the environment, and maybe the gravity in the planet is light?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (8 children)

    It's easier than that, it's not feeding on the creatures protein and fat it's predating on the creatures soul, or pain.

    A creature of this size wouldn't get there or stay there on victims stumbling into it. Especially in the deep desert, it's victims are likely few and far between. When it gets a conscious species, it tortures it for 1,000 years until the things' spirit and consciousness merge with the hive mind. They are clearly putting energy into maintaining the life of the victim.

    I do a different kind of imagination work in my head for mysteries like this. The way you think seems very mundane and boring.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

    Hey if you prefer “imagination work” to “thinking,” don’t let me discourage you. But I did easily as much sweaty rationalization as you did.

    I prefer fantasy creations that have some internal consistency and don’t overstrain credulity in service of one super obvious on-the-nose effect. When I can hear the author grunting with effort trying to horrify me, it ruins the horror.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    You prefer your fantasy that happens in other worlds to be more grounded? It's amazing how boring this world view is.

    I will allow authors to take me on a ride and I will fill in gaps where needed. Frankly I have no reason to believe a Sarlacc in this world does any of that, how did the people in the star wars universe figure that out? Maybe it reads more like a boogeyman legend about a creature the Hutt's use to execute people. I might add that our only in world evidence is boba fett getting out of one, not super scary. I'm just adding a bit of my own spice to the world because it's been left open to me to do so. That's fun!

    Imagination and thinking are the same thing, you have to think to imagine What an unusually dull world you inhabit!

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    I don’t think you understand the term “internally consistent” if you automatically think it means dull. Are you only able to stay awake when there are contradictions and logic gaps for you to fill in and rationalize yourself? Maybe you should just write yourself instead of reading half baked trash.

    Whether this is canon or just a legend in the world, it’s just as illogical either way. I think you meant for that to be some kind of magic trick that made my objection go away but it went nowhere.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Dude I'm not trying to convince you, I'm not arguing with you, I'm pointing out you seem boring. I don't care if a description of a monster in a world makes sense in compendium the poster got this description from.

    I actually can't imagine being so obtuse that you're looking at the description of a monster for internal consistency to be a snob about it.

    Yum-yucking sci-fi, gatekeeping snob. It sounds boring to be you. But at least other sci-fi snobs can jump on you like drowning rats.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah you’re not convincing me, just insulting me repeatedly. Like clockwork, you bitch about how boring I sound. Well you sound like a grade A neckbeard idiot to me but clearly you’re wildly entertained by your own addled mind, so carry on dude.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Lmao, I'm the neckbeard! I'm not being a gatekeeping snob over what type of fiction people like. You came in here being condescending , I'm just calling you out for what you are.

    Someone who desperately wants me to care about what you care about in fiction, calling what other people like slop, and being mad people are having fun. Like how is that not neckbeard snobbery?

    I mean I'm not trying, to convince you of anything, nothing i or anyone says is gonna change your mind, at this point I just find your opinion boring and a bit sad!

    I made this for you:

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    I love how 28 people agreed with me above, and 3 with you, yet you’ve drawn me off to the side yelling by myself at people who don’t care.

    More “imagination work” I see LOL. Someone posted this on a discussion forum. I discussed it. If you are too fragile to handle this, you don’t belong here. That’s not gatekeeping, that’s just caring advice. Watch television instead (like your imaginary friends in the comic) where no one will ever challenge you with a complex thought. Or hell just draw more comics depicting people agreeing with you LMAO.

    Please reply again because now your addled brain is officially entertaining us both.

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    [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Is that some baby Sarlacc budding off?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Reminds me of the Mystery Flesh Pit. He probably got his inspiration from the sarlac come to think of it.

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    Somwthing like this was in a 40k book i dont remember the name of, except it was a tree. It used the psychic anguish of this to "call for help" to other humans, thus drawing more in.

    They bombed it from orbit iirc

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    This seems like a cruel fate for innocent womp-rats.

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    that's some Dune shit right here!

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Seriously ? that's the Flood in Halo. I didn't know Star Wars could be so hardcore. Nooice

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    That's my secret. I'm already part of a hivemind

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Doesn't feel as horrifying as something like refuling a ship

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Wait what happens if it absorbs a Jedi

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    How well would Leviathans from Star Wars fit in 40k?

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