people had problems with it being a white-centric show in NYC of all places. also unrealistic as it was an expensive city and they dont look like they can afford the places.

To be fair, I have friends who love this show but also admit it hasn't aged well.

The best concise description of that show I've heard was "it's what people who aren't nerds think nerds would like".

I mean, this is Lemmy, it's a show about making fun of us.

And honestly I'd respect that if they put effort into it, but "lol nerd" is like 90% of the plot.

When Sheldon says "Bazinga" I throw 10 metric tonnes of popcorn at the screen. Funniest thing I've ever seen /s

That show is literally trash.

For reals. That show is so absolutely unfunny, it astounds me that anyone could enjoy watching it

The last 2 seasons of that show were total and utter dogshit. The earlier seasons are great though.

same. i stopped watching when i realised i didnt laugh at a single joke all throughout the first season

Same. If you want some actually laugh out loud hilarious cringe humor, I highly recommend Peep Show with Mitchell and Webb.

I've seen so many memes of it but I just couldn't get into it either!

It's cringe pretending to be humor.

Loved the original, but US remake has just all the corners filed and padded.

same.

isaip s13 and on, is pure cringe, the actors even into the show anymore. s1-11 was the best though, i think its was for the audience that grew up with the series.

I started watching Star Trek because I loved The Orville. I didn't know people had such hatred for it.

Just to make sure, you didn't only watch season 1 episodes, right? The show gets a lot better and leans less on the Family Guy humor as it goes along.

EDIT: I saw you said you watched up until s1e7 in another comment. That episode in particular annoyed me for being a worse version of the Black Mirror s3e1 episode Nosedive. It's worth trying some later season episodes if you ever get the chance to see if you like them any better. And check out Nosedive as well!

if it wasnt in the show it wouldve been fine, but him being part of the cast makes the series questionable, hes not that good as actor, hes better at writing. ALso problems around him being involved with the writing has caused the series to barely make seasons in general, this has caused financial problems for some of the actors, and production too. having 36 episodes in 6 years is pretty bad. this was all from pallacki interview on michaels podcast.

They did 2 things well (from an economic perspective) in my vaguely shit memory:

• built of the success of castaway a few years earlier and survivor
• marketed the absolute hell out of it pre-release. I remember hundreds of ads showing in the months leading to to it.

It paved the way for a lot of long running, high budget tv shows like heroes, supernatural etc...

I also severely disliked it.

UK, US, or Aussie?

I fully don't get why people like that. It looks mean and dull and it's not even reality. The sexy ones also look like a shit stand-in for actual porn.

reality has always been trash, and they cancelled shows just so they can have that slop because it brings in the lowest common denominators.

That's too bad about Buffy, it really grows into something very unique. It's also pretty much the originator of that horror/comedy genre, and one of the first serialized prime time shows, along with X-Files.

i think buffy is good for its time, but not post 2000s. Supernatural got wierd after 5th season, basically when kripke left the new showrunners decided to play into the parasocial fantasies of the fans and it made it all sexual and homo-erotic. i believe at one point (season 6) death threats were made against some of the guest cast(the ones that was dating DEAN in the show) and they couldnt come back. and you can see why how they act(the fans) when jensen ackles and jared does all these Conventions still. that is the reason why it continued for like 10 more years, past its lifespan. although there is at least 1 or 2 seasons (8 and 11)that were better than the rest.

smallville was intersting origin for superman, but if you look at all the superman/supergirl show that came out since then, its superior to those. michael rosenbaum was is a good lex luthor, but he gave up on the show at some point.

That's mild compared to later seasons. It does get pretty fucking sadistic.

I see where you're coming from and it's not for everyone.

The incest didn't bother me

Uh...

Honestly good you got out. I still think about some of the darker parts of the books. The older and more aware I become the sicker they make me feel.

I tried watching the first episode and turned off after 30 minutes because nothing happened. I had friends who loved watching it but it just seemed like a soap opera aimed at men—the drama was way too heavy for me.

Don’t check the Red Wedding scene on Youtube

To clarify, the incest didn't SHOCK me. Kids out of windows did.

It was super popular, I think people maybe have some nostalgia for it, but it's really a bad show.

On my second try I enjoyed it...until the final season.

The show probably got different writers at that point. Whatever happened, everything previously built was just scrapped. It's like they made a list of random outlandish ideas, then shuffled and tried to connect them.

If they had brought it all home it would have been a good, offbeat kind of show.

Agreed; Tony has a problem. Tony gets angry. Tony solves problem by killing/having killed said person responsible for the problem was very much the dominant and highly repetitive story line. There was some nuance, sure, but not enough for my liking.

The Office season 1 is dogshit

The rest is excellent

This might be the only time in my life that I have ever heard someone say they didn't like Seinfeld. Never thought I'd see the day.

I don't think you're supposed to like Yellowstone. I think you're supposed to feel obligated towards it