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[–] 227 points 9 months ago (5 children)

"Disney took the popular comedian Jimmy Kimmel off-air after he joked about it,"

No. Kimmel ragged on trump and maga but did not joke about kirk. Stop the gaslighting.

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Crazy how repeating a false narrative allows it to stick. That's why these ass clowns are always so quick to get in the first word and say shit like Renee Nicole Good was a domestic terrorist. Spouting bullshit is powerful.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    The Big Lie is an old strategy that the Nazis used to great success, so not surprisingly, it has become the foundational strategy for MAGA as well.

    One of the things we need to do in the future is to regulate political speech. Politics is just marketing for candidates, and advertising/marketing speech is regulated for truthfulness. If politicians decide to start spewing demonstrable lies, they need to held accountable, with fines, loss of access to the media, loss of the ability to run for office, and perhaps even prison time.

    And we need to regulate the Conservative Propaganda Machine as a National Security Threat. You can responsibly oppose and criticize the government, but you can't deploy your media outlet to organize with others to help overthrow the government, or provide cover for the treason or government abuse of others. At that point, your media has become a weapon of sedition, and should be dealt with decisively.

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  • [–] 54 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    The mission can be seen in full here, though obviously you should consider carefully before clicking.

    Or what? I might see pixels from a video game.

    https://xcancel.com/GTASixInfo/status/2010798891269243103

    Except for the mission name and general concept of "roof, gun, tent, crowd" its quite the shit recreation honestly.

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago

    Don't let this story distract from the far more important news of Rockstar firing 33 employees for forming a union, making up a flimsy excuse after the fact, and getting a judge to deny interim relief to the fired workers.

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  • [–] 75 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Didn’t they literally make a game about bullying, also is there a game (by another studio) about “going postal”.

    I even saw a game trying to recreate the JFK headshot, but this is something they frown upon?

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    JFK Reloaded was made to dispel conspiracy theories by simulating the assassination and grading each shot on how close it was to real life. The ballistics were advanced. It turns out it is a lot more fun to play when you shoot the drivers first, stopping the motorcade, and start shooting the sunglasses off the cops and the guns out of their hands. It's no Sniper Elite but you can really pump JFK's guts full of lead.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    He responded that the controversy was "understandable given the fact that many people were alive at that time and still have vivid memories of the event" but stated that JFK Reloaded neither condoned nor glorified the event.[3][20] In retrospect, Ewing said he regretted tying a cash prize to killing Kennedy, saying that he had been "naïve" and had "underestimated the deepness of affection for Kennedy held by many American people".[9]

    It sounds so fake, but wikipedia doesn't lie

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    Capitalism. The rich owner types don't like this sort of thing, and they have a lot of power. They don't really have coherent values except "in-group to protect, out-group to bind" and "no one tells me what to do. i tell you what to do."

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    The Postal games faced bans and censorship. The ending of the original Postal was changed at one point. I believe all the Postal games were pulled from something at one point or another. JFK reloaded caused a huge amount of backlash and politicians and stuff denouncing the game. But these games don't have anything to do with Rockstar at all. So it's not really relevant to Rockstar not wanting a Charlie Kirk mission.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I didn't realize Bully came out ~20 years ago. Fuck. I can believe I'm saying this but, it really was a different time.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I avoided that game based on the name, but from what I gather, it was misleading; pretty much every sect of that school is full of jerks (sadly including the nerds, who often cater to their own victim complex), and your character is just facing the larger of them.

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  • [+] 17 points 9 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Unknown. They wisely kept the burial details a secret.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    If these could be missions for Hitman, that would rock.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    So we should make Alex Jones and Stephen Miller missions to train people for the sequels?

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Karlie Chirk mission

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago
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    Rockstar doesn't make games for you anymore; it makes what the wealthy elite want you to play.

    Fuck Rockstar.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    remember when Postal did a parody of the Waco massacre?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Suppression is often countered with flooding tactics.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Not allowed to kill fascists in gta?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I haven’t played GTA in years. I guess you can make your own missions now? And this was a user created mission?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Too bad there's not an article that answers all of these things in the first paragraph.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I am curious how into this they got, with the details of the killing being that the official story is untrue, patently on it's face impossible. That rifle was not what shot him at that range. The shooter presumably didn't disassemble that rifle into that litlle pack in 1 minute either.

    If honest, the mission is to orchestrate a killing for israel's factions in the US, for them to make turning point into a nazi youth and both college and public school policer of thought and cataloguer of students and teachers, after kirk rejected that plan and the Israel back board member p(r)icks for his own guys with his own vision.

    Most people would not want to be on their side though. What being nazis and all.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    All those devs who got fired by those corps, might as well form their own collective and make a better game.

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    [–] 84 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

    There's an EARLY mission in the GTA V storyline where you assassinate that universe's equivalent of Mark Zuckerberg with a literal phone bomb. As in, the phone rings, he puts it to his ear, and it detonates right there. And in the Doomsday Heist you blow up that universe's equivalent of Elon Musk with missile-equipped jetpacks after the dipshit tried to start a nuclear war with his super AI named Cliffford. I guess they're cutting it for using the real world names? Maybe people should be more creative and use a non-distinct name for him. Either way it's still a stupid thing for R* to censor.

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Just call the target "Chuck" or something.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    Rockstar has always wanted to be edgey without "being political" and I think this is unfortunately the natural end result of that being applied to an ever bigger and bigger business model, an empty mirror of the worst of US culture without any courage even to grapple with it.

    The difference between Charlie Kirk and a Charlie Kirk community mission in GTA is Charlie Kirk advocated for real violence, harassment and oppression with his platform whereas GTA is a fantasy video game.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    I think this has to do more with real world names. In both GTA V and GTA Online you kill the equivalent of big CEOs, with the original singleplayer having an early mission where you kill Temu Mark Zuckerberg with a phone bomb, and in Online during the Doomsday Heist you kill Temu Elon Musk with a jetpack armed with missiles.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    Fair, that is an important difference I just think you would be much harder pressed to prove in court GTA has meaningfully increased hateful behavior, in comparison Charlie Kirk was entirely optimized for actuating that as a media persona.

    I agree any kind of targeted media that uses real names is a different level ethically, but I can't ignore the context that in terms of real world impact here Charlie Kirk did so much harm vs. GTA which has always been a silly video game series intent on entertaining people.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Rockstar has always wanted to be edgey without "being political"

    Lol. The games have always been a satire of American politics and culture. This post has strong "I liked RATM/Star Trek before it was political" energy.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    Yeah to be clear I played GTA 1, 2, Vice City, San Andreas and GTA 5, I have enjoyed the series immensely and it does have great biting satire of US politics, but it doesn't have a coherent ideology, the critique is rather one of pointing out how hypocritical US society is.... which is hilarious and great but the bigger and bigger the business success of the GTA series has become the more and more that has morphed into the series being edgey without being actually political in a subversive way.

    GTA 5 had some great moments, there is some awesome storytelling in the GTA series, its just I don't think structurally it is concerned with being political, rather it is concerned with character portraits that encapsulate the hypocrisy, struggle and ego of US culture and the more mainstream that becomes the closer and closer it gets to "edgey without being political".

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    They literally have JFK assassination games and even columbine shooting games. Why not one for Chuckie?

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Columbine happened in the 1990s. I remember when they came out with the DOOM map for it. In the 90s. I never actually played it, but I kinda wanted to.

    I feel like if Blood came out after Columbine, they would have had a school level. They did have a grocery store level. Blood was more like Duke Nukem 3D, way more advanced than DOOM, but still that same generation (what people now call boomer shooters).

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    My next upload: "Karlie Chirk Tracheostomy © (Bluetooth edition)"

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    There was a story about Roblox kids creating Charlie Kirk simulators and that made me laugh

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Personally, I could watch racists die all day, every day.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    No no, this is the Kharlie Cirk mission, completely different guy.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I thought I'd never hear a reason to make me want to play GTA Online

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Ethical? perhaps. Fanning the flame? definitely.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I always liked the mission in GTA where you’re sent to kill the “high priest” of the “baldheads”, who turns out to be a suited man in a suspiciously well-guarded motorcade.

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