Almost cried just reading which episode.

What episode is tonight?

You choose to obey those laws. You choose to not kill those people.

Everything is a choice. You could go live in the wild like a hermit if it all feels so trapping. You could completely opt out of society. Just because the path of least resistance isn't what you wish it was doesn't mean you're not choosing it. Hell, you could choose to kill yourself if you were really feeling that imprisoned. Life doesn't owe you anything.

Thank you, that's what I was getting at. I suppose I should have expanded a bit, as it seems I wasn't clear to a few. You worded it perfectly.

So get rid of fraternities. That would be more effective than some platitude about what we need to teach our sons as if most of us didn't already know rape is bad. Like those stupid annual sexual harassment workshops I had to do at my old job. You know what those taught me? Not a damn thing I didn't already know, and anyone who didn't would be too stupid to function.

It's almost like bad people will do bad things, regardless of what they know.

What I meant is what percentage of a population are degenerate scumbags and what educational metrics are we going to badger the entire male population with as if we're all mentally retarded? At what percentage will we pass a desired threshold we deem acceptable?

Look, I'm a male. No one explicitly gave me a lesson on not raping people that taught me something like a revelation. Yet I would never, and if I were aware of such things going on I'd intervene. No man in my life would do such a thing. I've seen figures as low as .012% to as high as 30%. Nobody knows anything for sure and data on this is all over the place, flawed, and difficult to acquire.

Was this case a horror? Yep. Does that mean I agree there's a large enough population of degenerate men that warrants a systemic change in male education? No.

Get rid of fraternities and sororities? Sure. Get alcohol and drugs out of campuses? Sure.

Start treating all men as a whole like we're too dumb to know rape is immoral? I don't think that's going to have any impact whatsoever. You think those 57 men were a lecture away from meaningful change?

27,000 attend Cornell University. 57 men is 0.2% of the entire population there.

The original post is "Durrrr of course it's not ALL men. But it's A LOT." So if THAT'S a lot, that's a borderline meaningless statement.

I just like specificity. No bs vague crap like "a lot" because people are too dumb and too emotional to bring data to the table. Who exactly are we going to teach what and to what desired goal?

What obligations do I have that I didn't choose with my free time? It's all just frame of mind. Does life just happen to you? Or do you choose what to do with your life and your time?

I'll simplify. Who chose those obligations in the first place?