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Simon Pegg on the Cornell Rapists (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Start treating all men as a whole like we’re too dumb to know rape is immoral?

Consent and bodily autonomy do need to be taught. This isn't some knowledge that you're born with. Sure, a guy might know that "rape is wrong", but they might not understand that somebody could be too intoxicated to consent for example.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    Off topic, how does consent and intoxication work if both parties are under the influence, anyway?

    Looks at comment section

    Yeah... For the sake of avoiding unnecessary toxicity in this hypothetical, let's go with two people of the same gender. Men, women, whatever. They get heavily drunk, end up sleeping together. Next morning, mayhem ensues. What happens? Are both parties guilty? Neither? Does it matter who initiated? Levels of intoxication? Degree of shame and regret?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That's what you think the problem was? That that entire group chat of Ivy Leaguers was simply uneducated on consent? I think that's... Adorable. And naive.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I think that they were brought up to believe that either this kind of behavior is okay or, at least, that they wouldn't be punished for it. Or if they were punished, it wouldn't be severe.

    I believe that there are plenty of men out there who think that if she consents, then it can't be rape, even if she isn't in a state of mind where she can consent. I don't find that hard to believe at all.

    What do you think the reason is? Are some people just born rapists?

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