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[–] 50 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Idk I bet there are lots of beavers sluttier than me

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  • [–] 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    maybe a sheep that got cheated on wrote this article 😢

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Surely there can't be that many sheep on Soay to come up with such an estimate.

    I suspect the scientist got a bit lonely out there doing the fieldwork, tried something that he'd normally get away with on a domestic ewe, got rebuffed, and wrote this paper to slander the whole species as revenge.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    This is actually a more interesting statement than one might think at first.

    When we describe the habits of various species of animals, it’s my understanding that once a description is obtained, you can look at more or less any particular member of that species and see pretty much the same behavior. Monogamy trends included.

    Not so with humans. You can find an average, describe trends, but pick any specific individual human and they’re almost certainly not going to behave as that description.

    Some humans pair bond for life and beyond, never seeking other companionship after one partner dies. Others sleep around constantly with dozens of partners in a lifetime. And everything in between.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think this is true. There is certainly a large degree of individual variation in animal behavior too, it's just not that well studied.

    I had a professor who studied owls, which are usually highly monogamous. But there was one male who always tried to have two nests with two different females. It was hard for him because he had to hunt twice as much food, but for whatever reason that was what he felt like doing.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago*

    Also we have cultural layers on top.

    You don’t see a sheep saving itself for marriage lest it fear eternal torture.

    Likewise you don’t see a sheep putting its keys into a bowl at a party.

    We are more than our nature.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Nope, that's not what it means at all

    Genetically linked behaviors follow distribution curves. There is always variation in every population for any behavior. When a behavior is highly selected for, alternative behaviors become more rare...but they still happen.

    A good example of this is homosexuality, evolutionarily speaking this behavior is highly selected against (reduced babies). It still occurs in all sorts of species.

    What this means is that around 2/3rds of humans are strictly monogamous. Around 1/3rd of humans are promiscuous or partially promiscuous. These are instinctual behaviors that can be overcome somewhat by cultural norms. On an individual basis, for every 3 people you meet, one instinctually finds sleeping around to be their "normal" behavior.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    What does this say about the Welsh?

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Jesus tending to his flock: "This is not what I meant when I said be like sheep"

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    Well, maybe he actually did and a bunch of never-getting-laid now-pedophiles "edited" certain details to less expression recognition and then raped some kids to keep word shut. Just Sayan. Watch out for that Ram.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Learning moment for me: does conflict of interest section not include known baises? why wouldn't the researcher being monogamous be listed there?

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I'm definitely putting that on my dating profile. Sluter than a sheep

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    who wrote this list, idaho?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I don't understand the methodology at all. Genetic analysis of a mother's babies would show "monogamy" if the alpha male in the herd keeps their status in multiple seasons. The typical polygamy relationship counts as monogamous, afaiu. Could it simply be that sheep change their alpha male each season, instead of everybody fucking everybody rules?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    First, what it really measures is not the rate of monogamy (as in being with one partner at a time), but the rate at which animals only mate with one other animal throughout life, without contraception (which humans have).

    Second, I wonder how culture shapes the score for humans. A lot of monogamous behavior in humans is shaped not by natural drive to stick to one partner, but by culturally defined repercussions for going out with someone else.

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