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[–] 122 points 1 year ago (38 children)

Plant growing is gendered now?

All the cishet men I’ve known who have had gardens grew all kinds of stuff, from fruits and vegetables to culinary herbs and flowers.

Maybe I’m in a bubble but damn I feel sorry for the dudes in the OP.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Yeah this is weirdly sexist. I only know one person this describes because he's growing weed (legally) in an apartment so he can't have a outdoor garden

    Hell, I know over a dozen men with gardens and only two even grow peppers. Everyone grows tomatoes, though..

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Fresh tomatoes out of your own greenhouse are amazing, that's why

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My old coworker told me he had only ever eaten the transparent slices of flavorlessness fast food restaurants call tomatoes until he moved from the slums to a rural town and had a fresh one. It blew his mind so much he went on to spend 15 years as a chef.

    My dad's been growing tomatoes my whole life so I've been spoiled

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I grew up somewhat poor, small town with no fast food, post-soviet nation. We had a garden and a greenhouse. I was a teen when I found out how flavourless tomatoes can be. Because we'd always grown our own and didn't use them as much in the winter when they needed to be bought from the store lol

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Hornworms and squirrells always wreck my tomatoes:(

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I have a raised bed and just hang a loose net around the whole thing so the squirrels can't get in. Otherwise those little buggers will take one bite out of each tomato and leave the rest for me to clean up.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's not immediately clear to me how this deters such pests.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The netting isn't big enough for squirrels to get through. It's draped down from the trellising, and pinned down to the ground. There's no way for the squirrels to get in unless they climb up and over, and they don't seem to be able to figure that out.

    Not sure what to do about the horn worms though.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh, so there are also trellises of some sort. What else is there? It's also still it quite clear how this is configured - are these frustra surrounding each plant? Because that sounds like a lot of work for each tomato.

    As for hornworms, best we've found is a daily sweep with a jar of soapy water for ritual executions.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Fucking stink bugs! My plants got a little out of hand this year and I had to pluck stink bugs off them every day. Still 60+ lbs of tomatoes tho

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Bro how big is your fuckin' garden

    Also may I have some tomat plz

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do what my dad does and plant like 40 of em, they can't eat them all!

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Seriously. Who could talk shit on local wildflowers? I'm feeding bees up in this B.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm encouraging wild flowers to grow in between my berry bushes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nice. I just threw down some plugs and watched em go

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    yes. everything is gendered for gender warriors.

    i'm cishet and i have a garden and most women i date think it means I'm secretly gay. the cat doesn't help.

    gardening is considered feminine, or for old people. not for younger men who are supposed to be virile and dominant. they should be hunting.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    That’s wild, I’m sorry you gotta deal with that.

    Survival skills + demonstrated empathy/care with other living beings are positives for any person. Hopefully you find someone who appreciates that. /gen

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Sure, but the OP doesn't say "gender warriors", it says "Western man", which includes a whole lot more people than the tiny minority of those bigots.

    Sorry that you live in a bubble of bigots, but it is not a general or universal experience.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Same, I don't know any dudes into gardening that care about that shit. One of them does grow peppers, but it's because he likes peppers, not because he's worried growing other stuff (which he also does) will make him look like a pussy.

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  • I grow several varieties of peppers from sweet bells to habaneros, tomatoes, okra, cucumbers, and mint, plus a few odds and ends that look cool at the garden center. I tend to grow plants that either produce more per dollar to grow than I can get at the store, or in the case of tomatoes, of better quality. And mint is eternal.

    I also harvest beautyberries that have sprung up wild on my property, and have recently learned that the big weird thing looming over my wood shop is a black walnut tree, so I think I'm gonna go nuts next summer.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Who does this ? This looks like ragebait

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe it's the same men that don't wash their ass cuz that's gay.

    /s maybe

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    /s maybe

    Well done; that gave me a chuckle....

    Its not gay if it your own soapy fingers right....right guys....oh fuck maybe I'm gay. No I can't be, I hate the gays!!!!

    • some closeted jock probably.
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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Cacti and carnivorous plants are super cool tho??? Especially that you get cacti cuz of how resilient they are, a great first plant, can recommend. And growing your own food/spices as well? Also Ive never seen that stereotype lmao

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  • Wtf lol? This is completely made up

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Fellas, is it gay to participate in agrigulture?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Its confirmed, every farmer secretly has a boywife

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Fellas, it's it okay to have a boywife?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    This is some poor bull shit... when did growing anything make anyone fragile?... get outta here with your bs. Do you just go around trying to start shit?

    Why would you make up something like that? Maybe its your own masculinity that is fragile?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    When I was young, I got made fun of for wanting to help my mom plant and tend to a garden with basil and tomatoes. It didn't kill my love for plants but childhood cruelty sticks with you.

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  • I had 2 older brothers and 1 younger while growing up, we lived rurally and we would have a huge garden and we were all expected to work in it. Personally, i liked it, but I didn't always like it cuz I was a kid I guess, but I liked it enough I have my own garden now and nobody forced me.

    I was also homeschooled, so I didn't know a lot people, but I never got made fun of for gardener.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't even understand this. I haven't heard anyone even in the alt-right say growing plants was gay

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'll be honest, I've never come across this.

    I've known people who aren't too keen on growing flowers, if only because it takes up space where they could be growing something more productive.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Which is too bad, because including flowers in your garden (even if it's only in the form of bolted vegetables) helps attract critters that will pollinate your "productive" plants as well as those that will help protect them from pest infestations. A balanced ecosystem lifts all boats, to mix my metaphors.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I refer more to growing flowers as the main event. Most people I know who garden outside use flowers in the way you described.

    I do however have one extremely "dudebro" guy friend who literally grew almost nothing but flowers for a few years, specifically to sell them to a florist :P

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    What a bullshit.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Eh funny but untrue. The dudes I know who are plant people grow anything cool. Ive got a lot of weird and cool plants.

    I do grow the super hot peppers, and i like feeding ticks to my carnivorous plants tho. So its not far off.

    I also grow tomatoes, eggplants, garlic, cuces, squash, etc.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    it's true in experience. I'm a single guy. I date around. Most women I meet think gardening makes me queer. It is not considered a desirable hobby for a man. And many men who don't garden, also think it's queer/feminine.

    People who do garden, don't see it that way, of course. But every garden group I've ever met up with was 70% women, and most of the men were not 'manly'. I myself am not a manly guy.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I grew up assuming every adult should be self-sufficient, so I learnt all of cooking, cleaning, gardening, basic repairs, home maintenance, sewing, etc. I think the most likely people to have a problem with that never learnt it themselves, so they feel inadequate.

    It became an issue in my first serious relationship because she didn't cook or clean much. She definitely never tried to nurture so much as a plant. I had no problem with that because I could, but she started to feel less feminine, and eventually turned it around on me. The guys she left me for were completely useless, but they didn't highlight her insecurities so she was happy. At least for a short while.

    People who are confident in their identity and abilities don't do this, and that's who you want to find anyway, regardless of gender.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Traditionally it's been similar to cooking:

    Farmer/chef? That's a man's work.

    Gardener/home cook? That's a woman's work.

    Fortunately we've got shows like the Great British Bake Off and a myriad of popular YouTube gardening and home cooking channels featuring men to help shake this up, but sadly it's still something that's seen as gendered by way too many folks. Still, if spicy peppers and cacti (and on the cooking side dishes like pizza) help get insecure men in the door, that's great. But I'm with TTF: it may not be a strong stereotype, but I've also observed it.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I like flowers and tomatoes 😎

    E: and pumpkins. Frankly this comic is just to generate anger, all the men I know with green thumbs grew all kinds of healthy and fun plants that everyone enjoyed.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I wanted a house so I could grow the first three.

    Am currently stuck in in law's house, with collapsing job market after being denied a mortgage for being too fat 3 months before the job market collapsed.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Denied a mortgage for being too fat...?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yep. Based on age and mortgage length, and beurocracy they said I had to take out a life insurance policy which got denied due to health factors.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I believe it. My credit score had a knock against it because, and I quote: "Months since oldest auto trade opened".

    I guess cyclists who outright own two cars (An old hatchback and an old truck) are a credit risk.

    Sorry for the legalized discrimination you faced, that feels a lot more egregious than mine.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You know the biological system is too complex for simple physics based memes to be plausible

    1. Those who try to win by increasing CO find they eat more
    2. Those who try to win by reducing CI find they become less active
    3. Those who try to win by restricting carbohydrates in and increasing fat in, find they lose weight and become more active
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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I dunno i just doubt this person exists to any great extent. All plants are great.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They do exist. They usually look like this, though:

    14934

    So probably nobody on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    This bait is objectively hilarious in how BS it is.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My plants are tomatoes, bell peppers, basil, oregano, garlic and coffee (no serious hopes for a good harvest in my climate).

    Am I still allowed to call myself a man?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    That privilege is heavily dependent on your maintaining a strong garlic harvest. The first year that slips (or your basil/oregano perform too well) you're getting downgraded to nonbinary. Then there's a three year grace period before you're sent straight to full-blown woman. So make sure to fertilize your alliums well!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Would that not be the plants they like? Everyone's all for gender affirmation until it's straight men seeking affirmation for theirs

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Humans are strange in even assigning plants for specific genders. Just grow whatever the hell they want.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Exactly right. Gender is performance. We commonly enhance this performance through clothing, the way we speak and how we refer to ourselves; this is not the only ways with which it's done though. I think it would be rude to criticise a trans man for affirming their gender by growing a beard for example. However when it comes to cis men in particular, the way they reinforce their gender is often mocked. So what if the plants some grows makes them feel more comfortable in their gender.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thinking growing plants is gender affirmation is precisely the problem this image is pointing out.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    What someone sees as affirming their gender is entirely up to them. Plenty of men do feel more masculine doing things like not using a straw, eating certain meals, listening to certain music, ect. Women might wear clothing that emphasises their figure. Some trans men feel affirmed in their gender by growing a beard, trans women might train their voice to feel more feminine. Gender is a performance and we all constantly make decisions to reinforce it. Thinking growing plants is gender affirmation isn't a problem, it's just a reality you're not living. If someone grows those kinds of plants and it reinforces their gender identity, that's valid and more power to them.

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