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[–] 224 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I'd be willing to linearly downscale.

I am sure that for me 3 Million is more than i could ever reasonably spend for the rest of my life.

So with 8760 hours in a year, that would be like 53 Minutes. You know what, make it a full hour.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    Came here to say that. 30 billion is a stupid amount of money. If down scaling is an option, anyone who considers doing it for a year (for personally owning all the money) is mentally ill.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Why?

    Shouldn't everyone feel morally responsible for receiving the maximum reward so that they can personally distribute those funds amongst as many people as possible? The other guy is fine with just 3m, so one year of your life apparently could provide 9999 other people with a life of never having to work again.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    That is why I said (for personally owning all the money). If someone is selfless enough to spend one year in an insane room so they can give away the money to others, kudos to that person.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is it fair or just to expect one person to suffer for the benefit of others?

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  • [–] 149 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Of all the ways to get 30 billion dollars, this would probably be the least emotionally disturbing choice.

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  • [–] 98 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Only ethical billionaire

    Of course they'd be a fucking nutter once released

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Inherit it from parents who... Ok, I see your point

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    One year in that room would make anyone go crazy enough to not enjoy the money when they get out

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Id still do it in a heartbeat. I've got a year to lay there and plan out how to best distribute/use it. $30 billion would be more than enough to build a nice commune that can grow someplace with healthcare and everything else taken care of for all the people that live there. Just the interest would pay for everything if you could get 5% interest on it and never have to touch any of the principle. Could get 15,000 people going and pay them all 100,000 a year at first while we set everything up. There would be a lot of schematics to figure out, and finding a location would be tough, but there is absolutely no reason I couldn't go to therapy or even get others to help manage the set up and walk into the sea after if I've really lost it. Could possibly help a lot of people and grow into something nice.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think you're underestimating how long a year is. Even a week in solitary is enough to cause permanent damage

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    It takes me 3 days alone before my sanity begins slipping. I can’t imagine a year. After a day of deconstructing the cell and making fluff puppets, I’d already be bored. The brain craves stimulation.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think this is one of those things where it seems totally fine to you but in reality it activates some kind of intrinsic biological limit that you aren't even aware of. I FEEL like I would easily conquer the nothing box by just doing a lot of great thinking. But scientifically, I kind of doubt that I really could. It's like if someone challenged me to eat only celery for a year. I might have the willpower to do it, but biologically I may just die. Now I don't think the nothing box would kill me, but I can imagine it making people go crazy for sure.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    solitary confinement is recognized as torture, and that's probably for a good reason. I've also had personal experience in psychiatric hospitals with people who had to be confined, and while their being there is probably due to every available professional being entirely hopeless with them, the confinement definitely doesn't help the situation. even the ex-director of the NIMH, thomas insel, finds in "healing: our path from mental illness to mental health" that a lot of mental healthcare is actually social and communal care, not cold hard medicine. where medicines fail, you can still treat a patient with kindness and patience, integrate them into their community, make friends, have good daily experiences. you can still give them a human touch. all that heals people to some extent, and solitary confinement is exactly the opposite of it.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago

    If the year in solitary confinement doesn't turn you into a psychopath the $30 billion will!

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Here's an easy way to kill time: try counting and see how close you can get to 30 billion

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A billion seconds is approximately 30 years, so probably not very close

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That's exactly the point. The idea that $100 is an amount of money that would give most people some pause before they spend it, but it's not an unmanageable amount of money.

    So, how about we're try counting to 30 billion by hundreds. Even then, it's a ridiculous task. If you decided to purchase every single thing (that exists) that you've ever wanted, you'd go insane just trying to figure out why anyone would ever need that much money.

    Then again, you could not spend it on yourself... then, it becomes super-easy to spend billions of dollars! You could lift entire starving populations into solvency. So, why is no one doing that? Cuz the coolest thing to do with billions of dollars is to build more portfolios and buy politicians.

    Let's think about this another way: I don't know how much it costs to hire a hitman, but I feel like $10,000 is a pretty common amount to read in articles about successful hits (followed by arrests). So, assuming $10k is a reasonable price for a hit, $30B is enough to put out hits on almost every single person in USA. People like Musk could afford to hire hitmen to wipe out populations across entire countries, and I'm sure he's thought about that plenty of times. It's no wonder he can build self-crashing cars with no remorse. Dude can literally get away with murder, and then afford to murder anyone who tries to arrest or prosecute him.

    I'd rather go insane trying to count to 30 billion than to suffer from whatever brain-rot is going on in the minds of existing billionaires.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    ironically, I doubt you could count to 30 billion in 1 year...shows how much money that is.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Once you get into the millions, it takes well over a second to recite each digit of a number. One million is only 1/30,000th of the way in.

    A year is less than 32 million seconds.

    Even if you skipped to 1 million, and somehow managed to get through each number in only a second, and counted every single second of every single day without breaking for sleep, you still would only get a little over a thousandth of the way through 30 billion.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    1 year and your insane

    Or

    Waste your whole life working towards 0.001% of that.

    If I can write a will beforehand for who gets it then it’s worth it.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I know we have a decent amount of science pointing to this breaking the mind, but I can't help but wonder if anything would change knowing an unimaginably great prize was waiting on the other side. How long would it take to count to 30 billion...

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How about I do just a few hours for a pro-rated payout?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    I've seen VSauce's video where Michael does this for like, what, three days? And he's basically lost it by the end. So while this is tempting, no, I can't do it.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Don't forget drawing on the walls with your shit

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    ITT: people forgetting that prisoners in the US are isolated like this, and it's literal torture.

    You're not special.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    i mean, a year is absurd, and that amount of money is meaningless.

    how about i just stay in for a day and get 82million instead

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Yeah, the arbitrary cash amounts in these would you memes are always a little goofy, as if the creator thinks 30-billion is so high that anyone seeing it will start screaming "YAAASSSS GIRL!!" no matter what the challenge. 100-million would be just as effective to the average person. Maybe even 10-million if your wealth aspirations are not to buy a golden palace with twelve Lamborghinis and a rocket pad.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    vsauce did something like this for 3 days and he nearly lost his mind. i think 2 days max is all us regular people can do

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm with you. A day or two at most is all I would need to be set for life for anything I would ever want.

    I like fancy tech, so I might stick around for a second or third day because fancy tech isn't cheap.

    People in my field refer to it as "backing up the money dump truck to (vendor) HQ" ... Just to give some context.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If I were to do something so ridiculous for a full year for the full amount, I wouldn't be doing it for me. There's no way I would be able to spend 10Bn in my lifetime on things for me and my immediate family. I don't think that's even possible unless we were literally flushing money down the toilet, burning it, or throwing pallets of $100s from a plane while flying over a populated area.

    I would use the 10Bn to create things like scholarship funds for colleges, where the only requirement is that you can prove you don't come from money (and can afford whatever education you want without help).

    I would also be donating large amounts to charities and good causes, especially FOSS and things like the Internet archive.

    Above and beyond that, I'd likely use my newfound wealth to create a company that builds open source or modular hardware for things currently dominated by big tech. Like mobile phones, specifically Android phones, and supporting companies doing similar work like framework.

    I would only take enough to pay off my house, all debts, and for a savings/income fund so that I can live comfortably for the rest of my life without needing to work, both for myself, my spouse, and some members of my immediate family.

    While in the box, I would let me ADHD brain wander endlessly and entertain itself, until it gets bored or tired, then sleep and repeat that 365 times.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Exactly my thinking. For $30 billion I don't care if I come out the other side a mindless husk. I'm leaving instructions before I go in about what to do with the money and improving as many lives as I can.

    If I make it out with enough of my mind to enjoy some of it myself then that's just gravy.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    If I survived the year, then spent the next year with $500k worth of therapy to become semi-normalish again, I'm still left with $29.9995 billion dollars. Hell yeah I'll do it.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And the lights never go out and there is no clock

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I wanted to point this out as well, glad someone/you linked it.

    The memer is basically 'would you get tortured for 30bn monies'?
    And the kicker is that people torture other people like this without paying them, often/usually with the tortured not having done anything bad (not that that would justify torture of any kind).

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The reports on the linked wiki page of the use of things like this as torture aside, is there any research / evidence on how things like this affect people who are treated this way voluntarily?

    I’ve seen video of someone volunteering to be waterboarded to show that it’s not that bad if you know what’s happening (spoiler—it was still very bad). I’d assume other kinds of psychological torture would be just as hard to deal with, even with full knowledge and consent.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    vsauce of all people did a thing on this sort of voluntary sensory deprivation in their series mind field back in 2017. results were not good. michael spent i think three days in a white room with a bed and a box of food, and he was a wreck when he was let out. the loss of any sense of time really fucks with you apparently.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’ve seen video of someone volunteering to be waterboarded to show that it’s not that bad if you know what’s happening (spoiler—it was still very bad)

    Ah yes, renowned edgelord and one of the Four Horsemen of Atheism, Christopher Hitchens

    https://youtu.be/4LPubUCJv58?t=194

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    To be fair to him, he didn't think it would be that bad, said as much then tried it. Afterwards he completely changed his point of view and admitted he was wrong.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    sure, he changed his view on that particular thing and that was noble. But him and the other three are arseholes because of the aggressive way they behave(d) towards religious people.

    The point of secularism is to allow people to have their faith or lack therof, and have public life not assume one way is correct. They weren't "atheist figures" they were anti-theistic crusaders, who gave a hand to islamophobes during a time of increased islamophobia during the "war on terror" which laid the foundation of the civil liberties abuses happening today.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    30 billion and a chance to catch up on sleep? You son of a bitch I'm in.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    I don't think I would even be sane enough to spend the money if I got out

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    I would just goon the whole year

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I can't afford 30 billion dollars, can I do it for free?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Can I sit there for a day and get 82 million?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Think of it this way, new game.

    First month you get $0.01, the second month you get $0.02, the third month you get $0.04...

    Keep doubling that for each month you stay in this room, to a maximum of $1.5 Trillion after 4 years.

    Each successive month has a 1% chance of resetting the clock.

    How many months do you stay?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasubi

    Hamatsu was challenged to stay alone, unclothed, in an apartment for Susunu! Denpa Shōnen, a Japanese reality-television show on Nippon Television, after winning a lottery for a "showbusiness-related job". Hamatsu was challenged to enter mail-in sweepstakes until he won ¥1 million (about $8,000) in total. Hamatsu started with nothing (including no clothes), was cut off from outside communication and broadcasting, and had nothing to keep him company except the magazines he combed through for sweepstakes entry forms. After spending 335 days to reach the target, Hamatsu set the Guinness world record for the "longest time survived on competition winnings".

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    a lot of people seem to be assuming solitary confinement, but nothing in the prompt actually indicates you can't have visitors. furthermore, you might have a lightswitch. being able to turn the lights off to sleep and chat with visitors might significantly slow your descent into madness. (though anyone would probably still be pretty fucked up after a year).

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    I like that Lemmy's first thought is pro-rated payments, and yes, it really does show how much money 30 billion is when you can make millions in an hour. My first thought was, I think I could actually pull out off for the full year.

    Most people need some kind of social interaction, including folks with conditions that make that hard. I'm probably not an exception to that but I have learned ways to pass full days of time just story developing and singing and such. Creating characters also helps ward the loneliness, although I think the hardest part is being unable to actually write anything down. I could easily do a year if I had enough paper and a way to draw or write.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why go out ? I would buy the place and stay there so everyone can fuck off.

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    If I get bored I go to sleep. Sleep all year, free food, can do pushups, learn to whistle, yoga training, imagine you have a piano and practice piano in mind, play chess in mind, invent fucking game rpg story and characters. That's from top of my head, not sure if I can manage to do this in a year, need more time.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    At least you wouldn't be alone - hat man is with you 🖤

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    No way. Fuck that

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    What about the toilet facilities (or lack there of)?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Chekhov's short story The Bet has a similar setting, except that the person has access to books but not other people.

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