It's true that this is all AI slop and that they are disgustingly manipulative videos but I do disagree with the notion that the nostalgia and The era was fake and never existed. As a child of the '80s and '90s we really did stay out all day until the street lights came on, and hang out in pizza places and malls and the internet and our screen life has played a major role in changing that. What is heinous here is that people are creating triggers just to manipulate generations. Not the nostalgia.
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. . . What?
A perfectly cromulent word.
The thing about the English language is that you can verb any noun you like and get away with it. Just like I did in the previous sentence.
Well, I just nouned your verb right back to the way it was, checkmate.
Pretty sure the majority of the English dictionary is just loanwords, too.
“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.”
― James D. Nicoll
English readily absorbs both the best and worst of all the other languages. If some other language has a word that really hits the mood of even just a small amount of English speakers - bam! - it's English now, motherfucker!
Add to this, it's chock-full of complicated and often hidden rules that can - or absolutely cannot - be broken, depending on context. No wonder people learning it as a second language have that permanently confused look on their face.
The good thing about English is that you can puke out the most half broken grammar and pronunciation and still be understood by most. I'm not aware of many other languages like that.
Well it doesn't help that modern English is a hybrid of a Germanic and Romantic language not even getting into the Celtic aspects.
Remember all the propagandaish art of the 50s, 60s, and 70s based on advertisements of the time? Like all the Norman Rockwell stuff, sanitized hippie shit, and 70s rock star junk?
Apparently AI is being used to pump out the same kind of thing for the 80s but more blatant.
I hate to tell you this, but the mullets were very real. It was a dark time and we’re all glad it’s in the past.
Mullets are back, my dude.
Says you. We the transmasculine population refuse to let mullets die
In the past? Ever since that '70s show was on, I see '70s and '80s hair everywhere on every kid now. It makes me feel like such a boomer to want to yell "cut your GD hair!"
Lemme help you spice things up: Wait until you're passing by a guy who's super clean cut and wearing business attire. As you go by, yell: "Get a haircut, hippy!" It's funny every time.
I may have been one of the lucky. With all it's warts, the 80's, for many young people, were a banger. Sort of the final bang of the 60's and 70's. Perfect? Nowhere near, but the music, social, artistic, and so many other aspects, were pretty damn cool, and for the young crowd it was mainly what mattered. Things like the fall of the Berlin wall, the perceived end of the end of the cold war and the nuclear Armageddon threat gave us a sense of optimism. Looking back there are things, like the Reagan/Thatcher tandem, that were setting the stage to the neo-liberal clusterfuck we live in, but our focus was elsewhere.
It honestly fits tho. It was an era of rising neoliberalism and technology, establishing the cyberpunk critique of the world we're currently living.
what confuses me the most about these videos is the call to action. go back? that's not how time works!
Anyone who actually knew a damn thing would want to stop right at 2015 abd stay there forever
In 2015 I actually thought the world was going to get better. Haha what an idiot I was.
2012 was pretty much peak imo. Cant really think of anything after that thats worth saving. Guess the mayans were kinda right after all. Smartphones had come out and evolved into something decent but weren't terrible yet, facebook was still kinda useful and not a propaganda cesspit, google would give you useful results, reddit was full of unique and interesting information. Tv and movies were really hitting their stride with some of the most bou dary pushing original tv series and movies hadn't all devolved to remakes and superhero rehashes, global warming was bad but people seemed concerned about it and it wasnt past the point of no return yet, youtube didnt shove a million ads down your face. Netflix was streaming content but didnt have any competitors buying up rights yet, spotify was fairly new and revolutionary still, forums still existed for all sorts of niche interests, ads werent completely pervasive everywhere, google wasn't an evil monopoly sucking up everyones data, memes were still fresh and original, gaming pretty much hit its pinnacle of graphical fidelity relative to performance costs, you could order awesome drugs off the internet unregulated (not even just the dark web, research chemicals were fucking great and hadnt started to be banned yet). Idk i could go on and on but literally everything felt like it got worse from there. I didnt even touch on productivity or the economy but it still felt like a bit of a boom in the wake of the rebound from 2008. If im missing anything good that happened post 2012 please let me know.
Obergefell was in 2015 I believe
I had to look it up because its been since 2005 in Canada, but wow you're right. I wish that madw me feel differently about the content of my comment, because that is one objectively good thing that happened after 2012, but the fact that it didnt happen until then and that its so recent still just feels really bad.
There's a lot to be said for the late 90's. Post Cold War, but pre 9/11.
It's not perfect for everyone, especially if you're LGBT+, but it's got a lot going for it.
September 2016, so we'd have finished existance off with the summer of Pokemon GO
People gotta stop watching slop. But it seems impossible to get people to stop using tiktok, twitter, instagram, et al. They just don't care enough.
Recently my parents showed me some stuff they saw on Facebook. It was all just AI slop, rage bait, advertisements. Seriously, there was barely anything useful on it. They were very avoidant of acknowledging it tho. "But there's also fun stuff on it". They were constantly wondering whether what they were reading was real, yet it did plant seeds in their brains. It's even influencing their politics, I had to have a whole discussion with them (traditionally centre left voters) about how our left wing parties didn't want to let an unstoppable horde of immigrants into our country. And why voting for a centre right guy because "he looks pretty competent" will also fuck with poor people and important topics like abortion.
AI slop often slips into your recommendations without you even knowing it until you watch the video and be aware of the tells to know the difference. I've had to scrutinize so many channels and remind the algorithm to not recommend said channel to sway it in the right direction. It's been so demanding sometimes but now I'm getting smaller niche channels that actually have a sole.
Reminds me of all those stupid "cyberpunk 1994, office nights 1998" ai slop playlists on YouTube. They all have a common theme: they don't represent or even remotely sound like the kind of music from the year they claim to take you back to. and the tracks, if one can call them that, are the same repetitive, thoughtless rhythms. If you go to YouTube to find some background music to listen to, these kinds of uploads dominate the search results today. And it's all D-tier shit.
yeah! let's go back to a time when gas was $12 a gallon. where women had two jobs, making babies and making dinner. where teen pregnancy was at its highest ever. where the government fueled a drug and arms war in South America. where the constant threat of thermonuclear war was banging on the iron dome every single day.
yeah....sounds like a fuckin blast from the past. fuckin rad.
Dont forget the insane racism and misogyny and HOMOPHOBIA on another level. It made news when someone shook a gay guys hand. And the good ol death by AIDS sweeping the nation. The horrific parenting that led to PSA asking if they know where their kids are. The fucking unsolved kidnappings. The escalators that didn't have emergency stops and would choke you to death on your own shoelace.
where the constant threat of thermonuclear war was banging on the iron dome every single day.
That's good. Memento mori, carpe diem.
Still better than the current full steam ahead into fascism.
woosh
I think you might have been too young to remember the Regan years.
not nearly as tumultuous as today, but certainly similar in spirit.
I might be old, but I have not forgotten him. He is one of the root causes for what is currently happening in the US.
People tend to filter out the bad memories, like the fact that crackheads were breaking into cars constantly, making it nearly impossible to have a decent car stereo. They started making them that you could pull out, and take into the house. It was common to see cars parked on the street with a sign that said "No Valuables in car."
The crime rates in America in the 80s were through the roof. It wasn't until the earl/mid 90s that they dropped.
In Russia there are some nostalgic memories from the older people, but it's all about education and science, some kind of common dignity (with less personal dignity, probably, but common dignity is important too) and the nation not being openly ruled by thieves, that kind of thing. And total losses in Afghanistan were 15k people, that was a reason for mourning and being terrified, that was talked about everywhere in the news, apparently. While now - you know.
I mean, they remember that kids would just be let out to play, and that they'd go to school and other such places all by themselves. That kids would make knuckles from lead, or make explosive things, or (when in less destructive mood) some kind of perfume and such, radio, all kinds of DIY more often, more serious and more dangerous than now.
They also consider it absolutely basic to accompany your guests to the bus stop or metro station or train station, and only leave when the bus\train leaves, to call your friends regularly and raise panic when they don't answer, to preferably not go out at night, and to never ever say things too open or offensive, because any weirdo at all could hear them, feel offended, follow you and fucking kill you, no cameras everywhere.
And their memories of relative security are not about lower crime anyway, they involve teenage and youth hooligan gangs being literally normal. They would be those who maintained that relative safety. If you were a man, you'd do well to not be outside your district after dark, you could get beaten and robbed just for that.
Judging by what I've read about 80s in the west, all this was kinda similar there. Less depressed probably.
Reagan/Thatcher is the reason why "moderate left wing" nowadays means "liberalism" instead of "social democracy", and even most so called social democrats nowadays act like liberals instead.
And now the christofascists want to have their "Blair Labour" moment on social issues, and I'm afraid they've mostly succeeded that with "Starmer Labour". They want a world, where there's no real alternatives to "hard conservatism" (fascism).
I was born in '79. I know a lot of 1980s/1990s stuff that's floating in popular consciousness right now is fictional romanticised bullshit, because it's based on romaticised fiction made in that era.
For example, I knew most kids didn't hang out at The Mall. I was a kid. We didn't have a goddamn mall. American movies and TV showed kids hanging out at The Mall. Maybe hanging out at the Mall was an aspirational thing. Or something.
It's a thing that happened for some people but it's not the entire truth about the era. It's not just that people tend to remember the good bits, they tend to remember the good bits that happened to someone else.
There's a reason why nobody makes AI slop about the Finnish 1990s banking crisis and its wide systemic repercussions felt to this day. Edit: Sorry if none of this makes sense, just ate something other than cheap potatoes for the first time in a week
One of my most vivid memories of the 80s was that bullying was absolutely rampant and no one did anything about it. Parents then were just like, "It's part of growing up!"
Bullying from all sides with adults taking part in ways no different than the children. Made me wonder if they whole 'respect your elders' made any fucking sense.
Wouldn't call it rampant.
Didn't really cause a dent on that generation either.
He is talking about his own experience, not for the whole generation
That’s the thing about this. We lived through the 80s and know what it smells like, so this isn’t aimed at us. It’s all the kids who are into Stranger Things and the like with their weird Instagram Filter take on the decade.
Finnish 1990s banking crisis
I was curious and I came back with a Wikipedia link for everyone else.
80s nostalgia ai slop to relive memories? 😴
80s nostalgia to relive memories by looking at vhsrips of 80s home videos and media? 😎👉👉
Gotta love when the Internet calls 80's kids boomers 😅 and no it was never a utopia but it was our fucked up times, and no one else's.
My take on boomerifying is getting other generations to behave like the stereotypical boomer, not that they are actual boomers by birthday.
There's so much good 80's stuff I'm not sure why anyone would bother.
Kids with mullets in the back of a ute? That’s just this year in Adelaide.
Boomerfying
That's a scary word.
It is, but didn't genX own the 80's?

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