I'm lucky that despite living in a car centric Texas suburb, there are tons of of bike paths, and quiet neighborhood streets to get a workout ride on. Commuting by bike is currently not viable, but a new commuter rail line is opening next year that might make it work for me.

And also not wanting to show up at work a sweaty, disgusting mess because you decided to do threshold intervals on the way to work

Although i've been told that it's normal for dutch people to show up at work meetings in various states of wetness like rain or sweat

right but it's comparable to the type of cycling that the grand majority of people do on the bikes at gyms

which, to be fair, is often because that's a warmup/cooldown activity at the gym. but there are people who go and just cycle at a low moderate pace and then drive home.

If you're fit, then cycling will ensure you stay fit. If you don't have to strain yourself, that's a plus. It's supposed to be fun commute, not a challenge.

If you want to workout, go the long way?

Indoor biking isn't much of a workout either to be fair.

It's one of those things that seeped into the public mind as part of going to the gym. Whereas you can get the same or better cardio while lifting weights that also builds your muscles, while indoor bike is imo just a meh, or borderline the "lazy" choice realistically for a lot of people.

It's what you do when you don't want to run because that's hard, and the elliptical is too hard because that actually hits the whole body.

Ofc this is a generalization of the majority, individuals can still use it to great effect, but imo, meh.

What fascinating about exercise bike is it train you indoor so you can take on outdoor long distance cycling. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive and i hate conversation like this.

Also bike isn't only meant for exercise, you can go to the store or run errands with it if distance allow.

And you don't have to worry about emergency repairs.

I live in the greatest state in America, New Jersey. We can hit 36+ in the summer with 100% humidity -16+(-?) in the winters, and this is exclusioning wet stuff. We can dislike the car machine without hating on gyms. And I don't like gyms either, but c'mon.

I translated the temps into world, so bear with me folks.

Yeah going try ride my bike to work tomorrow. Only six minute by bike vs 3 by car. Trying to save on gas, but will miss the AC it freaking hot here. Luckily have AC at work. But it's starting to cool down here, but not by much.

IMHO most people here are for systemic change that internalizes the external cost of pollution, and building better transportation infrastructure. Not pointing fingers at individual working-class people.

I will give you high heat sucks, though 110 heat index isnt terrible when youre moving fast, but it takes 30 seconds to throw on some rain gear, Ive even seen people do it at a stoplight.

you are not in the wrong for this

you are making a responsible choice given your options

it's not about cutting out entirely, it's about minimizing where possible

I like to use my ebike as much as possible instead of driving. Ironically some people will say I'm "cheating" 😂 bitch, it's replacing my car, not my bicycle!

Diving 80km away in a car is a lot faster than bicycling. It would take a couple hours or more on a bicycle.

It's not the driving there ..... it's the time spent going there.

If you just do everything at home and exercise for even an hour, you save yourself two hours on the road going anywhere.

Once you do that for a month, the money saved in travel, wasted time, gym membership and all associated costs .... would more than pay for all the gym equipment you buy and set up at home. Plus you gain a whole bunch of hours in the day to do other things.

Get overrun by a car

lol .... this is Canada and in rural southern Ontario in farm country by default, everything is one hour away.

I live in far northern Ontario about an hour for any major city - a convenience store and a pizza joint is five minutes away - everything else is two hours away. Away from the cities in Canada, we measure distance by time ... we don't measure in miles or kilometers, we usually measure distance by the hour.