Trump promised Monday to work to end mail-in voting and said work is already underway on an executive order to ban it before the 2026 midterm elections, although the Constitution does not give him this power.

"We, as a Republican Party, are going to do everything possible that we get rid of mail-in ballots," he said during an Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. "We're going to start with an executive order that's being written right now by the best lawyers in the country to end mail-in ballots."

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[–] 139 points 1 year ago (21 children)

The states run their elections, the president has no say in this.

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  • [–] 117 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Somehow I don't think he cares.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Some of the red state governors will probably roll over. I hope all the other states tell him to shove it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Mail in ballots still lean Republican many places, I understand. In Texas, for example, mostly older people use mail in ballots, and that group trends more Republican than Texas voters at large

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    They're not going to fuck up and ban their own votes. They'll come up with some criteria for exclusions that keep the places and demographics they count on and spin it as pursuing some other principle than naked partisanship.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    This is just an excuse to pressure weak liberal governments into caving to fascism.

    Trump barks, then Gretchen Whitmer throws up her hands in surrender. And in another two years, it'll be those stupid disenfranchised voters who just didn't try hard enough who are to blame.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Fuck that noise. WA has been 100% mail in ballots for over a decade. We aren't about to bin our entire election system and build a completely new infrastructure because Trump is trying to overreach his authority. Will. Not. Happen.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The left and conceding defeat before anything even happens. Name a more iconic duo.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Doesn't the state run their own policing too?

    How'd that work for DC?

    Edit: I actually didn't know any of that, I don't live in the states. Glad to see there's a legitimate legal process for the president to take advantage of his subordinates

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I voted by mail in 2020. It was super easy and convenient - which is why republicans hate it.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It directly counters many of their favorite voter suppression tactics.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He's so dumb. Denouncing mail-in voting cost him in 2020 and they reversed course in 2024. Now they're against it again?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    When he’s up in the polls, easier voting m helps him , when he’s down in the polls it’s a danger.

    There is a base of perpetually mobilized voters who will show up through hell and high water for him, but, it’s not enough to win against opposition when they’re able to mobilize voters.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Because Trump is a powerful man with his own intelligent ideas, of course he came to his own decision to get rid of mail in voting only single day after being told to by Putin.

    - Idiots

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I think we should make voting mandatory.

    If you want to ban mail in ballots, let's make sure you're doing it for the right reasons. Because you truly, yet incorrectly, believe that mail in ballots are insecure. Not because you're trying to suppress the votes of people who have a harder time making it to the ballot box.

    If you want to prove that you're doing it for the right reasons, instead of the absolutely wicked reasons that you appear to be doing it for, then make voting mandatory at the same time. Make sure that each American gets to the ballot box because they are easily available and quick. Make voter registration automatic and track down every citizen to make sure that their voice is heard.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Ballot boxes disenfranchise bed-bound people. Let's not add an infraction for not voting. Mandatory voting requires mail-in ballots

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    The easy solution is just to make a polling place at the house of every bed-bound person.

    Sorry, that's a joke. If you want a serious answer, then I don't think any court would allow them to take absentee ballots from bed-bound people.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    What if we could give each citizen a crypto-signed coin at citizenship registry through citizenship tests or birth, it was required to be destroyed at death, and kept in line with an accurate population census?

    Or do I just not understand crypto? Would they just be able to be hacked later as our algorithms improved? Or will the seemingly farther and farther invention of quantum computers (just like anything else that isn’t directly related to AI) be too much of a risk to rely on technology at all?

    Idk man I just wish we could come up with some fair way to solve SOME things where the billionaire “meek” inherit the earth by delving into their bunkers and launching nukes… and I can’t seem to come up with any ideas. I’m tired.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Billionaires shouldn't exist (killing isn't necessary and will only create different billionaires, economic policy enforcing redistribution of wealth would be more effective) and voting should be made as easy and universal as possible, but crypto is not the solution to this or any other problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    What if we could give each citizen a crypto-signed coin at citizenship registry through citizenship tests or birth, it was required to be destroyed at death, and kept in line with an accurate population census?

    Let me see if I understand this, it sounds like you want to make the crypto version of a Social Security number, but also in physical form (a coin).

    The issues here is what happens when it's lost? They would have to invalid the lost one (or be stuck with the Social Security angle that can't be changed, but with a "trusted token" in the wild as well), but that means changing numbers and that would go against the whole crypto angle. And then it would be used as a form of ID (Social Security wasn't ever meant to be used as ID, but like your suggestion, it is "unique" and issued at birth/citizenship). We already have enough problems with Social Security numbers being used for fraud, this would only make the matter worse I feel. (Again, as a "more trustworthy item due to crypto" public belief.)

    As for population census, this wouldn't help much because if people leave the country, then they aren't part of the census count. But people don't revoke their citizenship when they leave or even make a form letter to their government that they are going to be living more than 6 months out of the year in another country (the usual standard to be considered if you live in the country or not).

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Yes yes but what about Esptein files?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Headlines should say "In desperate bid to keep unpopular republicans in the house, Trump attempts to unlawfully ban mail in voting"

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It’s because his bestie Putin told him to

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    After the two met Friday, the president told Fox News' Sean Hannity that "Vladimir Putin, smart guy, said, 'You can't have an honest election, election with mail-in voting.'

    How brain dead can Fox watchers really be? How can you listen to this - literally everything about that blurb is bizarro-world upside-down retarded.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    How brain dead can Fox watchers really be? How can you listen to this - literally everything about that blurb is bizarro-world upside-down retarded.

    Oh, their viewers are extremely brain dead. Even before Taco Camacho ran in 2015, some of their viewers were using Putin in that photo op on a horse as their friggin' avatar on social media. You know, because Putin was a "real man" and Obama wore mom jeans, married a dude, and most criminal of all, liked Dijon mustard. Of course, there is nothing gay about worshiping a shirtless dude on horseback.

    I wish I was kidding. I would ask some of these jagoffs about using that as their avatar, and you'd learn all this and a bit more - Faux News was always on at their household, we must support Israel "no matter what", and Putin was something to be admired because he didn't tolerate gays taking over the Russian culture and he respected xtianity and white men.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You know where mail in voting is allowed? Russia.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Putin has mail in voting. Thats one way of many how he rigs his election

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    I couldn’t find any information confirming your claims. I do not think you’re correct and it concerns me that Trump clearly was given marching orders by Putin and wouldn’t shut up about it immediately after the meeting and you’re agreeing with dear leader and possibly spreading misinformation ?!??why?https://apnews.com/article/russia-presidential-election-2024-what-to-know-04a363dd56d4b3f15d3048ed8585fe55

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is garbage. I love mail in voting and refuse to go back.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Why are politicians allowed to decide on voting rules on their own? In my country these matters are decided by an Electoral Comission, which is composed of public officials, with varied political affiliations. Changes to major rules must be approved by congress by a qualified majority (2/3 I believe).

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Who else would do it?

    With that said, each state in the US decides how voting is done. Yes there are Federal Laws that mandate things.

    I guess Trump can get legislation passed, but we shall see. Trump has been working on Infrastructure for 9 years now….

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    How about go fuck yourself you orange sack of shit.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm worried that might create a second one. Can he fuck off and die, instead? I've been waiting for the McDonald's to do its job already.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Forging paper ballots is actually much harder than forging electronic ballots. That's why he fights them so much.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    He's scared. Simple as. We had him begging Texas to redistrict, now this, he's down in polls... he knows that he'll lose ground next year. A democratic majority in the house or senate would be devastating for him, and that's where things are headed right now.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel like this is shooting themselves in the foot a bit. During covid, maybe you could argue Dems were more likely to mail in vote due to there being a pandemic, but now? It's old people doing most of the mail-in votes. Old people are more likely to be Republicans.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    That's not the point. He's sowing the seeds of doubt in the legimacy of the next election. MAGAts will be shouting, "I saw on the TV they was countin' mail in ballots! Trump made that illegal! They're stealing the election again!"

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    I think we've all accepted that he's "running" for a third term. No one is questioning that part of why he wants to do this. He's going to cheat again and also run for a third term, which is unconstitutional.

    The 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1951, limits a president to two terms in office. This rule was established following Franklin D. Roosevelt’s four-term presidency. Before this amendment, the two-term tradition was an unwritten rule, set by George Washington when he stepped down after his second term.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    He didn't cheat in 2024. Democrats cheated themselves by being stubborn idiots.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Orrr use mail in voting to decide if the people want more information about Epstein's client.

    Would also like the complete list of conflict of interest this president has obviously including the ones we don't already know about.

    Once that's done, trial for every single enabler of the orange turd.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The world's sorest LOSER.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    States rights preserved to run elections how they see fit amirite

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    A reminder to our American friends, Trump is a symptom of 30 years of policies, you all had plenty of time to change things.

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  • I understand that sentiment and it’s very much deserved, but a good portion of our fellow countrymen have been literally taught to hate any critical thinking or logic and “look what I’m going to do piss off the left” and honestly our left is pretty center right compared to most of world.

    There are of us that are working at it, but honestly we may have to fix how the government has suffered industry capture through deregulation for decades and teaching people (who hopefully will listen) is not going to happen fast at all.

    We got a lot of work to do I hope we can, but honestly things aren’t looking the greatest right now and we definitely shouldn’t be taken at our word brill we establish a history of doing the right thing.

    It’s going to get worse before it’s gets better the US is fucked at the moment but open for business if you’re a dictator or billionaire class.

    The genie may not be able to hi back in the bottle though with the trend of countries going alt-right and the US is definitely not helping on that front either.

    We are trying, but seriously don’t count on us in completing that task we are owned by billionaires and tech companies and I’m not sure our government and elected officials are willing to give up on all that sweet “political donations” money unchecked sadly…

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    OK so does he want to:

    1. Distract attention
    2. Corrupt the next election
    3. something else suiting his needs?
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    For people that don't know. Voting by mail is older than the US. In 1775 the continental army wanted to have their votes counted while away. We've had mail in and absentee voting since.

    And that's just US history.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Jesus, he’s looking old.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the Russian Federation, and to the Kremlin, for which it stands, one nation, under Putin, for slavery and injustice for all.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Really lends credence to the theory that the last 3 elections were hacked and 2020 was an anomaly due to the high mail in vote not being as easy to manipulate due to hand counting. I'm so glad Trump will fix it so we'll never have to vote again.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I'll even try to rug the next election to distract from the trump/Epstein files!

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    He'll try, and he'll fail. Not his purview. Not his to control.

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