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[–] 5 points 1 day ago

What it doesn’t say in the article, this only applies to vehicles with the N20 engine.

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    [–] 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Being force fed ads on the dashboard of a car you paid premium money for, having to pay absurdly inflated maintenance costs, having to pay additional monthly fees to use basic features that come already installed, and having the right to repair locked behind software locks and proprietary hardware wasn't enough. It needs to burn down your house as well.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    This bullshit has been going on 15 years. Why: because BMW used plastics in the pressurized fuel system that fail after a certain number of heat cycles. So at some point, the fuel lines dont release pressure as they should , then a crack turns into a gas sprayer.

    BMW fires are a meme.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago

    What it doesn’t say in the article, this only applies to vehicles with the N20 engine.

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  • [–] 16 points 21 hours ago

    a risk ​of fire while cars are parked and turned ​off

    That sounds like ABSURDLY incompetent car design! 😆🤦🏻

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  • [–] 14 points 19 hours ago (1 child)

    But they aren't EVs. I thought only EVs caught fire, not good old fashioned ICE vehicles. /s

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  • [–] 9 points 15 hours ago

    Literally took a picture of this connector yesterday while chasing a parasitic drain on an X1. The water pump sits below the PVC. When they age, the PCV leaks straight into the connector and shorts it out. As with all older BMWs, everything is also covered in oil.

    Their last recall fix was to literally put a plastic boot that snaps on around the connector. It's not waterproofed or anything, it's just supposed to prevent some of the water so it doesn't short out.

    Here's the little boot. Protection boot on water pump connector

    And here's the connector without the boot (and some scuffed electrical work from the recall repair). Bare water pump connector with electrical butt-splice from recall repair

    Will definitely be taking this in for the recall repair again.

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  • [–] 6 points 20 hours ago* (9 children)

    ‌NHTSA ⁠said an improperly sealed electrical connector on the water pump may be exposed to water and short circuit, increasing fire risks.

    I have never worked on a car that had any kind of 'electronically actuated/controlled' water pump. The hell? And they're all 'older' cars now...

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  • [–] 3 points 14 hours ago* (2 children)

    When I sold my 2011 BMW, one of the reasons I was happy to see it go was a lack of an oil dipstick. Zero dipstick.

    Yes, you can check the oil level on the dashboard (engine running and warm, level ground, at idle, parking brake on). However, that relies on the oil level sensor working and actually sending the correct level to the computer. Sometimes you just want to see and smell the oil yourself and not being able to do that easily didn't sit right with me.

    Oh and as a home DIYer I also didn't like that after changing the oil, I had to start the car, get it warm, then use the bleep bloop to check the oil level. Like if I somehow fucked up and put way too much or way too little I'd love to know that before starting the engine and letting it run 10 minutes! Sure, an oil pressure light might trip, but it might not...

    Last, yes, mine also had an electric water pump. No pulley. They have lots of failures of them. I was lucky and never had an issue with mine.

    Edit: one cool thing about the water pump: if you did coolant system work and had to drain some/all coolant, there's a procedure to have the cooling system self-bleed with the engine off. I forget how, but you like mash the throttle 10 times, say a prayer to Bavaria, and flash the high beams 4 times or whatever. Then you hear the water pump doing it's thing for like 15 minutes (best to have a battery tender hooked up). That part did feel like the future.

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago (1 child)

    Lol, fun read. I agree, no dipstick is completely mental. Weird to think "burping" air out of the coolant can involve more than a funnel and a breather. I think my car ('24 Civic) is one of the last almost completely analog cars left. 2 liter with a 6 speed.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago (5 children)

    Yeah it's for parasitic draw, 2 speed water pump with a solenoid and speed sensor. If the water pump doesn't need to be on full blast it can be slowed to allow lower parasitic draw on the engine and improve fuel economy

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago (2 children)

    Seems like gains from that would be awfully small, but okay then.

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  • [–] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child)

    Yes I'm sure the gains are small. I personally don't work on BMW I am a HD diesel engine technician. They do lots of small things that do add up. It's also for cold start emissions to get the engine to temp as fast as possible too. Lower pressure has been lowered on newer engines for less of a parasitic draw too

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago

    I watch a dude on yt- adept ape I think- CAT guy. Really cool how those machines actually work.

    Still think a lot of the modern things like variable water pumps are a bit silly myself. More complexity helps on power and efficiency but makes them horrible to live with and keep outside warranty.

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  • Yeah it’s for parasitic draw

    Lol I can't leave my Z3 in the garage for two weeks without the mechanical clock draining the battery so much the car won't start. I had to install a battery cutoff switch just to keep this from happening.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    About 25 years ago there was this ad in TV that went something like "Do you know what car brand was voted best of 2001? Not Mercedes, not Saab, not even BMW. Mitsubishi!"

    To this day I keep thinking how some writer fucked up because all it made me think was that BMW was a great brand. "You're not going to believe it but they didn't vote for BMW...". It should have said "obviously not BMW...".

    That's it. I just wanted to share my thoughts on an ad that aired 25 years ago.

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  • [–] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    If you buy new cars, BMW is a great brand, or at least was back then. 25 years ago, you could choose between the E46, the E39 and the E38 (and the OG X5 if that's your thing, but it's boring). The E38 was being phased out for the newer E65 7 series which sucks absolute ass used, but was ridiculously comfortable for the first owner.

    Reliability 25 years later is kinda meh on all of those, but brand new they were all amazing cars. And to be fair, I don't see many 25 year old Mitsubishis here, they've all rusted through. I see a lot of late 90s and early 00s BMWs though.

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  • [–] 5 points 20 hours ago

    Yep the e30, e36, e46 are awesome cars. Still luxury and gonna be more to maintain but I will take ANY of them over the absolute dog shit made today. ALL NEW CARS SUCK ASS and have for over 10 years.

    I really can't believe people are still buying shit like this. They need to be boycotted.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    bUt eLeCtRiC CaRs CatCh fiRe!?!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    No one ever said gas cars don’t catch fire.

    The difference is that conventional firefighting will put the fire out.

    A massive battery will keep reigniting.

    If that happens in a subterranean garage, where it’s already difficult to get firefighting equipment in, what are you going to do? Roast hotdogs on the smouldering embers of an apartment tower?

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  • [–] 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    The argument is typically that gas cars don't spontaneously catch fire. Yes EV batteries are self sustaining. However they also don't tend to literally explode.

    Pros and cons.

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  • [–] 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    Gas doesn’t explode, either. You watch too many movies.

    If a gas pump is stuck, you at least need a spark or open flame. The fuel vapor will then catch fire. Liquid gasoline itself doesn’t catch fire (nevermind explode). If you’re quick, you can put a match out in a cup of gas.

    All it takes for a Li-ion battery to catch fire is for the BMS to crash while charging is enabled. See: hoverboards, Samsung phones and the PowerBook 5300.

    Ditto damage to a gas tank vs a battery.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    BMW seems to do a lot of engineering around problems it didn't need to create.

    "Oh no our motorcycle is unbalanced" "I know, just move the rear wheel 1 inch to the left"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    recalled in 2024 ⁠for a water pump issue

    You mean that "issue" where the water pump magically fails at 85,000km and warranty expires at 80,000km?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Looks like Minis dodged a bullet. Same pump manufacturer (Pierburg), but it’s a different part for that BMW brand.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    This is only on the N20 engine, which mini never used.

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  • [–] 1 point 22 hours ago

    True. That said, they do occasionally use some parts across brands. Example, the engine’s ignition systems have a lot of shared components.

    I remember there being a pump -> fire recall with Minis a while ago, so I felt like it was worth running a parts check. I also distrust manufacturers and expect them to try to minimize recalls.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    I've been saying it for years, but nobody listens: Don't buy a BMW.

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  • [–] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

    Keep buying new cars, sheeple

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