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[–] 49 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

"At the same time, Gen Z excels in areas traditional IQ tests often miss, including digital navigation, visual information processing, and rapid information filtering. This suggests not a loss of intelligence per se, but a reconfiguration of cognitive skills shaped by modern environments."

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  • [–] 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 child)

    Yeah I'm pressing X to doubt.

    Gen Z doesn't know what a file system is and they type as badly as Boomers.

    Gen Z does not excel at digital navigation, they excel at using mobile-first UI on a handful of addictive and mentally harmful corporate social engineering platforms that primarily exist to harvest all their data and advertise to them.

    I mean I'll give GenZ the award for best thumb based texting skills, but... digital navigation?

    What does that even mean?

    ... and ... yep. I checked every source the article lists.

    None of them contain the phrase 'digital navigation', so that's just the author making up bullshit.

    No where is 'digital navigation' defined, at all.

    They just made that up, that's... not a thing, lol, as some kind of formally defined and measurable skill.

    EDIT:

    Also, the title of the article is factually incorrect, going by the data the author supposedly examined.

    Every other generation is 'less intelligent' (going by the metrics we measure) than Millenials. Gen Z are not the first to fall into that category.

    They're the first generation to not exceed the 'intelligence' of the prior generation.

    Presuming OP here did use the original title of the article... well then, the author has since updated it, after realizing or being informed of this.

    sigh

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago

    Anecdote incoming: I’m in my mid thirties and teach college students (so Gen Y teaching mostly Gen Z).

    Every single student I’ve had over the last two years has been far better at telling AI photos and videos than I am. Like, they can just tell, and I need to notice a glitch.

    I’d consider that a form of digital navigation (but you’re right, that’s a completely bullshit term), and it’s a continuation of the trend that’s existed since some of the first moviegoers tried to bail out of the “path” of a train filmed head-on in black and white

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  • [–] 81 points 18 hours ago (38 children)

    Idk why the downvotes, is the source bad? The claim is real. Ask any career teachers. Most agree children learning on screens is translating to bad outcomes for young adults. Others suggest the pandemic has created a cohort that is developmentally behind.

    Ignoring the problem won't make it go away.

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  • [–] 24 points 18 hours ago (30 children)

    People get offended by strange things. I have found that virtually anytime I mention that I prefer driving stick will cause me to get downvotes. So will suggesting that front-load washers are more gentle on your clothes. I think what happens is people go "wait, they said something different and I feel attacked."

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  • [–] 17 points 17 hours ago (5 children)
  • [–] 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    Found the millennial, providing actual proof to back up their statement hahaha

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago

    You're right, manual transmissions should be considered at risk of extinction and manfs should be required to build a certain number of each model in manual, until the population has stabilized back at a healthy number.

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  • [–] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 child)

    Gen z (like all generations behind them) have disdain for the generation before them lol. Millennials are cringe as fuck. I should know, I am one. I'd be pretty upset at that headline if I were gen z.

    All the Millennials with kids causing the iPad baby trend is fucked too, so probably a big contributor to this study. I can't even go to the local pub for lunch without someone's toddler screaming it's head off begging for mums phone because she left the iPad at home, and it doesn't stop no matter what she does until she gives it to him to watch miss Rachel at full volume on YouTube. That can't be healthy.

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  • [–] 7 points 17 hours ago (20 children)

    The fuck? Manual is far superior in every way. Who in the world argues over that lol. Automatics suck. And yes I hate the new ones too.

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  • [–] 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Genuinely I have been heavily downvoted for saying that, but that might have been more of a Reddit thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    Thats odd to me. I would figure maybe you just got downvoted for liking cars in general

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  • [–] 4 points 15 hours ago*

    This indeed happened at least five times during my life on Reddit, usually when a thread you commented on later made it to /all. I think that some people took it as if I was saying that my way was better. Also I don't even own a car and haven't in 20 years, but if I had one, I'd want a manual.

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  • [–] 5 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

    I'm too stupid to drive stick. I wish I could blame it on being Gen Z but I'm too old for that!

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  • [–] 4 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

    16 year old girls in europe all drive stick just fine. It takes maybe a half day to learn.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Where in Europe can you drive a car at 16?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago

    I’m assuming there are other country’s but you get those Fiat 500s in Germany with the weird wheel set up that allow 16 year old to drive, in the U.K. you can drive a Robin Reliant at 16 as there’s no reverse gear.

    It’s not common though.

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  • [–] 6 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

    Manual is far superior in every way.

    Except fuel efficiency, longevity, use of use...

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  • [–] -3 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

    I won't even start 😘 not worth

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago* (3 children)

    I forgot to mention automatics are cheaper, more available, require less maintenance...

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    Manual is better for control and way more fun, nothing you have said changes that. Automatics are ass

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

    The claim was that "manual is far superior in every way". Which is false. They are superior in exactly one way, which is that they are more fun.

    But none of this matters because 1. No one should be driving a car with a transmission in it anyways; and 2. We need to have way fewer cars being driven in general.

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago

    Manual is a chore, barely saves fuel these days, and requires you to use both hands, leaving you unable to solo drive and shoot in the impending apocalypse. And who has the time to make friends these days?

    /s I think

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago

    I prefer driving stick

    I just told my mom this weekend that I will die of old age or within a reasonable amount of time of touching a stick shift.

    I have owned one automatic in my life, and it had its transmission for three months before I started the swap.

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  • [–] 7 points 18 hours ago

    A lot of people have the misconception that intelligence is an innate trait, instead of a snap shot statistic; and then, because humans are really stupid, tie their pride to that innate trait they believe exists. If you say someone is less intelligent because of another innate trait, like race, or age, then it becomes doubly problematic for those that incorrectly believe intelligence as some innate thing.

    The truth is, of course, epigentics are effectively the sole indicator of any kind of intelligence that can be measured; and epigentics are controlled primarily by the society you're in. This is especially devastating news to individualists.

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  • [–] 0 points 13 hours ago

    I downvoted it because the title of the post differs from the title of the article in a way that makes it seem that the older generations are smarter, despite the article stating the opposite.

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  • [–] -3 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

    Every new generation has been characterized as incapable and unintelligent. The boomers got the same take from their teachers, as did the Gen X-ers, as did the millennials, and now the Gen Z-ers. People have always been shaking fists at "kids these days" and always will. Teachers are not a reliable source on this.

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  • [–] 26 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

    This certainly isn't good news, but....

    BOOYAH! Millennials are the smartest people in existence! Suck it, Boomers!

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  • [–] 2 points 14 hours ago* (3 children)

    YSK Gen Z the First Generation Less Intelligent Than Millennials

    BOOYAH! Millennials are the smartest people in existence! Suck it, Boomers!

    if you read the title of this post carefully, it actually says that Millennials are the second-to-least intelligent generation 🤔

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  • [–] 3 points 14 hours ago

    if you read the title of this post carefully

    “Carefully” isn’t the word I would use, because the interpretation you provided, while technically a valid interpretation based on the wording of the title, is clearly not the intended meaning of the title, lol

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  • [–] 71 points 13 hours ago* (5 children)

    This might possibly be the stupidest goddamn thing I have read recently, obvious rage bait for the young, and when I see it in the wild I always ask myself, why? To what end?

    So I went looking at the user history, which is a five-day old account with exactly one contribution, this odd post. I also happened to notice that the username initials, RBC, match the name of the article site, rathbiotaclan.com.

    In the last year especially, young people -- Gen Z -- have been forcing sweeping changes around the world, overturning authoritarian regimes and protesting obscene genocide. They're on the right side of history. But now I'm supposed to think I'm smarter because I'm old and they're somehow "less intelligent." Lol, no. They are doing what they can with what they have, same as the rest of us ever did or will do, and frankly they're doing a lot better for the world than their elders are these days.

    In that light, look at how much this one article sets commenters of all ages against each other, just in this thread. I can see no other purpose for its existence, honestly.

    Don't fall for this kind of attempt to divide. Those in power are going to amp up their attempt to set groups of people against each other, and I expect to see even more of this kind of divisive horseshit in the near future. Don't fall for it. Remember who you are: a human being with the same innate qualities of those who went before you, and will come after. We are all what we make of ourselves, in the exact circumstances individual to each of us.

    IQ is bullshit. The ONLY war is class war -- which, incidentally, is what they were saying in the 60s too, and long before that.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    The title is misleading, it should not say "intelligent" it should say "educated". The science does not indicate that somehow Gen Z is uniquely bad at being educated, but that our education system is losing the war for students' attention. The science does show that when you make adjustments like removing tech from classrooms, younger generations are just as educable as any other generation.

    This should be the takeaway we all recognize and agree needs to be addressed.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    As a label for the actual contents of the article, the title is perfect. Here's the start, a base topic from which the article itself never diverges (emphases mine):

    Gen Z intelligence decline is emerging as a serious concern among neuroscientists and education researchers. For over a century, each generation showed rising IQ scores, a pattern known as the Flynn effect. New data from the U.S., Europe, and global assessments now suggest this trend may be reversing raising urgent questions about how modern environments are shaping the developing brain.

    In January 2026, a U.S. Senate hearing delivered a startling claim. Cognitive neuroscientist Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath testified that Generation Z those born roughly between 1997 and 2012 may be the first generation in modern history to show lower cognitive performance than their parents at the same age. According to Horvath, this decline is not anecdotal or cultural pessimism; it is measurable across IQ, memory, literacy, numeracy, attention, and problem-solving abilities.

    For more than a century, human intelligence appeared to move in only one direction: upward. Now, multiple datasets from across the globe suggest that this long-standing trend has stalled—or even reversed. Researchers call this phenomenon the reverse Flynn effect, and its implications could shape education, innovation, and society for decades to come.

    The article continues on in this fashion. Education is not directly discussed except in terms of test scores; it is entirely secondary to various factors, like "IQ points," that the author would have us believe add up to intelligence.

    You didn't actually read it, did you.

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  • [–] 26 points 15 hours ago

    You mean the generation that was raised entirely on phones, that gets less sleep due to increased rates of depression (a known serious mental health condition that shrinks your brain), and is subjected to doomer mindsets daily is declining intellectually?? Color me shocked

    Btw I'm gen Z so everything that I just said was okay

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  • [–] 24 points 17 hours ago

    This is what happens when you knee cap education for decades

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  • [–] 9 points 17 hours ago

    I mean ive definitely met smart young people and also dumb ones. Seems to be about 50/50...nothing really new. Every single generation to ever exist thinks the next one is dumber.

    I will say with certainty though, gen z are idiots at computing. Not their fault, they were iPad babies and had bad parenting. But yeah, I'd have a hard time hiring one until I discussed their computing skills.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 hours ago

    Sorry everyone, I was actually the peak human, my IQ is 1000 and everyone before and after me is doomed to the depths of mundanity.

    What am I doing with it all you ask? Uhhhh LOOK BEHIND YOU IT'S A MATH EQUATION hides under the desk

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    This is bullshit. They are adapting to a world none of us have ever known. It’s the framework they exist in not them. What we have left for them to fill, which is a bleak fucking existence.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 hours ago

    I think every previous generation was also less intelligent than millennials. The scores were raising and Gez Z is the first generation that showed decline.

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  • [–] 14 points 15 hours ago* (2 children)

    I don't care, this millennial thinks gen z is smarter where it counts, like class awareness. And not like things like IQ are relevant. I'm a younger millennial though so older gen z I get along with anyway

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  • [–] 5 points 15 hours ago

    A sentiment in my fictional story that I hope reaches the hearts of my audience is that no matter who's objectively more "smart," more intelligent, (shown through 4th dimensional beings that demonstrate hubris and malice) ALL life has something that they can teach and something that they can learn from another, no matter what those kinds of differences are

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  • We have one consistency, people want to feel they are better than others. Otherwise we give it another 15 years and this same article will come out and it'll be about Gen alpha. As it was not long ago about millennials, and all the way up.

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  • [–] 5 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    Millennials are the smartest generation that ever has or ever will be. So stop holding onto power, boomers!

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    like powerful people, smart people don't need to say it.

    if what you say is true, Millennials are the smartest generation that ever has or ever will be, wouldn't that;

    1. make everything the article say true
    2. make you contradict yourself by begging boomers to stop holding onto power

    if millennials were truly "the smartest" wouldn't they already be running the world?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 hours ago

    if millennials were truly "the smartest" wouldn't they already be running the world?

    Because the world has only ever been run by geniuses. Remember how the likes of Einstein, Hawking Heisenberg, Copernicus, Newton, DaVinci, Sagan, Galileo, Curie, etc. famously all achieved massive political power?

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  • [–] 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

    As someone near 70 years of age, oh god yes they are mentally impaired.

    And I say that as someone watching their own slow mental decline.

    But it goes far deeper than an IQ, it's also emotional intelligence.

    And there have been multiple studies to prove it.

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2536089123

    https://biologyinsights.com/is-the-flynn-effect-reversing-what-the-evidence-shows/

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  • [–] 26 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

    So we're at this part in the boomerfication of millennials.

    Writing pointless "Kids these days" articles to make themselves feel good.

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  • [–] 15 points 15 hours ago* (2 children)

    Yeah, the thing that we're not focusing on is WHY Gen Z might be experiencing issues with mental health. How we can fix that

    A great way to start would be not forcing them to foot the bill for the spendings of pedophiles and war criminals, while telling them that anything they do to resist it is either hateful, a crime, or both

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago

    No you’re doing it wrong! We have to say this is bullshit Gen Z are the smartest ever and older generations are old men yelling at clouds! We can’t actually acknowledge Gen Z has unique challenges that are serious and need to be addressed, then we would have to care or even do something about it! Gen Z is super smart and has no problems at all, millennials are old bitter boomers shitting on younger people to smell their own farts

    /s obviously

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  • [–] 14 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    This is bs. For the last decade I've been absolutely sick of sham, feel-good, self-fellating article by Gen X/Boomers about how millennials are the worst scum of mankind, the gooch of satan himself, and the cause of all things wrong or mildly inconvenient for the world of older folks. I'll be damned if I let the same media cycle trick me into doing the same thing to the next generation. Gen Z drives me nuts sometimes. A lot of Gen Z content on youtube is preachy and critical of my generation and I don't always get their humor but even if I did think their demographic had a lower IQ on average than mine I'll never give the fucking media the satisfaction of my engagement at this absolutely useless, needlessly divisive slop. FUCK this. FUCK. THIS. Gen Z is doing the absolute best they can with the hand they were dealt just like all of us when we were younger. FUCK THESE KINDS OF ARTICLES AND THE PEOPLE WHO PRODUCE THEM.

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  • [–] 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    IQ is not an objective measure of intelligence. Nothing is. Intelligence is a colloquial and subjective concept like beauty, wit, or BDE. The idea that any of those things can be objectively measured is a logical fallacy. It was developed by eugenicists to do eugenics.

    In his book, the 'Mismeasure of man', Gould wrote that he's often encouraged to compare IQ testing to phrenology. But he says that comparison isn't fair... to phrenology. We all know that phrenology's methods are bunk, but it's theory, that different regions of the brain are responsible for different functions is still mainstream neurology. IQ testing fails in both methodology and theory; phrenology is a superior instrument.

    Any research based on IQ testing is suspect and unreliable.

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  • [–] 6 points 14 hours ago

    Its the 1% vs the working class, not generation vs generation.

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  • [–] 8 points 15 hours ago

    Garbage article on a crap website. What were you thinking, OP?

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  • [–] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 child)

    IQ != intelligence. I've taken IQ tests before they're all fucking stupid.

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    I believe most studies saw spatial reasoning going up and critical thinking going down. I'm more inclined to believe that we already know the cause in an era of short attention spans and social media/tiktok. The sports example they give is imo an example to the contrary, because we keep setting records previously thought impossible and have been for 100+ years, but intelligence is the only thing dropping?

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago

    Damn. My poor kid. I didn't give him much to work with in the first place.

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  • [–] 2 points 13 hours ago

    Will never cease to amaze me how tribalistic people can become over this stuff.

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    That’s probably because millennials were able to access higher education, then worked a fuck Just to survive and give their kids iPads or other distractions instead of raising them, then the kid’s (aka gen z) school curriculum suffered from budget cuts, poor education curriculums, out dated materials and not to mention the school shootings, rise of domestic abuse, and corona virus. To make it worse, good luck going to college or any uni without a life time debt - most people are unable to access education due to the decisions of boomers and millennials together. To say our intelligence is lower is a huge fucking insult, our higher education, ability to thrive and access to support systems are destroyed. Usa demands nothing but progress, uncontrollable growth and riches, but its people aka gen x, are begging for peace, liberty and prosperity.

    Hope is a distraction, action and pursuit of happiness is needed.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 hours ago* (1 child)

    People in glass houses should not throw stones.

    The oldest millennial is currently 41 years old. Most millennials have children that are under 10 years old if we have children. The children of millennials are mostly gen alpha.

    I'm going to guess your Gen. X. The generation that are mostly the parents of gen Z

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago

    They said "our intelligence", which implies they're the same as the article, which is Gen Z.

    Also, which of their words are you disagreeing with? I find myself agreeing with everything they wrote.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    The article says the data is from the US AND Europe. Most of your comment is US centric. Where I live in Europe third level education is essentially free, and about 75% of Gen Z students go to college.

    Also most of Gen Z have Gen X parents, not millenial parents. Most of the millenials who have kids are raising Gen A.

    So that disproves most of your reasoning for the decline. Also millenials have nothing to do with your problems.

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