Threatening people with torture, very Christian
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My thinking is, if the Christian God does exist, then based on his own scripture he's a heinous war criminal who isn't WORTHY of my respect.
Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
I always thought I had come up with a similar version of this of my own accord and then I later found out it was an existing quote. Wasn’t it by Marcus Auralias almost 2,000 years ago?
And if it's Oden and you're the fighter type, then maybe when you die, a Valkyrie will take you to Valhalla where you'd feast for ages.
I mean, hailing Thor and Oden doesn't cost very much compared to the christian god!
New Testament is supposed to turn old testament on its head. If you read Acts, and if it is to be believed, Jesus was ahead of his time. Quite likely the worlds first hippy.
And yet.
Even if everything in both testaments is true, you still don't get credit for offering salvation from punishment that YOU are giving out of your OWN volition in exchange for overcoming weaknesses YOU created.
If you submitted that as an animal test proposal for RATS you'd be thrown out of academia for gross ethical violations, and I don't feel like worshiping a deity that can't live up to the lofty moral ideals of a university bureaucracy.
I mean buddha was like a thousand years earlier and im sure there were hippies before that too. jesus probably wasn't real nothing recorded exists about him except decades after his supposed life, he was the Aramaic Paul Bunyan
Me too. I don't know if he exist, but if he does, he's a fucking douche.
Just kidding. He doesn't exist.
If you are a Christian, you should be absolutely horrified by the reality of God's coming judgement, since most major denominations of Christianity do not allow for salvation for any other. There are 40,000 denominations (slightly less). It's highly unlikely yours is the right one.
There are a few exceptions. The Holy See recognizes the Orthodoxies, but not Protestants.
And Universalists offer salvation to everyone, even if they're not Christian.
(If God was judging us, They might have given us clear instructions.)
Well given the whole tower of Babel thing I'm inclined to think that God just likes sewing chaos. So I suspect none of the denominations on that "right" denomination
most major denominations of Christianity do not allow for salvation for any other. There are 40,000 denominations (slightly less). It’s highly unlikely yours is the right one.
Idk, bro. I'm Catholic by confirmation, Jewish by birth, and I accepted into my soul the blessed light of Islam one time in college. Pretty sure I've got the main bases covered.
The Holy See recognizes the Orthodoxies, but not Protestants.
The Holy See recognizes the Bishopry of the Orthodoxies (and the Anglicans). They dispute the ministry of Protestants, not the membership.
That's better than I hoped. Do you have a source?
Didn't the Holy See repeatedly excommunicate entire countries for being the wrong faith?
ETA: I know that fundamentalist Protestant churches like the non-denominational Evangelicals are strictly extra ecclesiam nulla salus, and are even harsh on their own parishioners.
It's kinda weird since Sola fide and Sola Scriptura are fundamental doctrine of Protestantism, you are supposed to decide what scripture means and how to get salvation, but woe if you dare suggest this to your pastor.
My reasoning is, that if God exists and is just like Christians claim, then it is enough that I live like a good person. If he is petty and judges me for the fact that I don't worshop him, then I wouldn't want to worship him anyway and fuck him.
My thinking is, why is everyone starting their comments like this?
My thinking on the matter is this:
If God exists, he would be more pissed at me for lying and taking his name in vain, rather than being honest about it and say that the evidence available to the normal man doesn't convince me he existed.
Why is it that for the last two thousand years every single radical religious group has believed that the apocalypse is imminent? It's as if they were actually bad people and only the fear of imminent punishment keeps them civilized.
Idk. My parents sent me to Sunday school. It was very sedate and unobjectionable content. No fear. No hellfire. Mostly, try to be good and when you fail at it ask for forgiveness.
Rural, pre-internet times, I had friends going to Wednesday night AWANAS at the Baptist church instead. I went along one night. Preacher showed up for a short sermon essentially promising all of us kids hellfire and damnation, forgiveness not possible.
Depending on what you were hit with as a kid, the latter could have you internalizing that thought process.
Every story has an end. An ever-present omniscient god, and these bros still think the story should end.
I think expecting the imminent apocalypse isn't strictly religion related. Environmentalists expect an apocalypse. Nuclear disarmament people expect apocalypse. LLM haters expect apocalypse. LLM lovers predict apocalypse...
the rapture - but this time for realsies! ™️
I'm selling pet insurance for the rapture if anyone's interested
Insurance to take care of the pet after? Or to pay someone who's pet gets raptured and they don't?
Apparently, pets are not eligible for the rapture, so I've assembled a global network of non-believers ready to step in for believers' pets after their pious Christian owners get raptured
But how can they trust anybody who gets left behind not to sacrifice their pets to Asmodeus during a D&D game between orgies?

Seriously, I want to find a way to provide convincing evidence that the rapture happened and you weren't invited. (Neither was I.) I think it would be a momentarily painful but ultimately character-building exercise for them to process that out.
Surprised to see no one here thinking: modern American Christians are the ones that better hope God isn’t real. By his own words, he will cast out these two faced “believers” that praise him with their words but defy his teachings with their actions. They all think they have fire insurance in their back pocket by being baptized and publicly declaring they accept Jesus. But, as a testament to their ignorance of their own religion, they fail to read Jesus’ actual words saying that isn’t enough.
Exactly, they know god isn't real or they wouldn't be committing blasphemy constantly.
They think they can play the repentance and forgiveness card at the last minute. If there is a god I think it would be smart enough to know when someone is being a terrible person with the expectation they can ask for forgiveness vs someone who is trying to be decent but screws up once in a while.
That’s the part where they don’t read or comprehend their savior’s words. You must accept Jesus into your heart for his salvation, but they only accept him into their mouths.
The best part is that all meant that transcending and peace is available to all right here and now, nothing later. The Charvaka and many belief systems also taught that only the present moment is real and nothing after death, so enjoy being the conscious universe observing itself for the short blip that humans live. Waves of one ocean and the whole ocean in one drop! The heart doesn't accept things other than blood, but then pushes it back out again. The truth really does set free from all that baggage and conditional belonging! :)
That's another example of how badly written by men it is. An omniscient being wouldn't make errors and need do overs. Real truth stands up to questions, not collapse like dry sand the foundations really are. All of these controlling systems are conditional belonging and dualism which are unhealthy. They all made up fake issues to blame people for and then claim to be the only solution to the invented problems. It's obvious from history that they were made by men to control people, once there was wealth/land to pass on to heirs.
Still giving them too much credit, they know there's no afterlife they know it's all bullshit and they know they don't have any hell to worry about when they die, it's the people in the pews that are getting fooled
Hahahahahaha don't hurt me sky daddy
Omfg laughing so hard
Is Santa gonna come get me too? And the tooth fairy
Hahahahaha
Honestly, of all three, the Tooth Fairy is probably the scariest if real. God couldn't care less about you. Santa visits only once a year when sober, but only if you're sleeping. The Tooth Fairy? How many teeth you got???
Pratchett's Hogfather has an interesting take on that.
Spoilers...
The original Tooth Fairy (the whole thing is now a franchise started by him) is a bogeyman who realised milk teeth, being parts of the body, could be used to control the people they belonged to through sympathetic magic and, lacking a proper occupation due to people no longer believing in bogeymen, decided to collect them and keep them safe to prevent anyone from controlling their previous owners.
Also tooth fairies tend to carry a pair of pliers, in case they're short on change and need to take an extra tooth.
I mean, wouldn't the tooth fairy be like easy to kill.
Be nice - pretty much everybody believes something that's wrong.
That to one side, those are not the same things at all. There's evidence for Santa and the Tooth Fairy.
Lol, I'm horrified so many people still believe this dualistic, supernatural hocus pocus. If you study the history it's obvious men made up all the supernatural stuff to control people easier than just force. It came about when groups got larger and wealth inequality took over. The men wanted to keep their benefits and power and made up one version after another, each with a more fantastic story to really impress people!
Real truth does set you free from all that unhealthy baggage and truth withstands scrutiny, unlike the unfalsifiable stories they demand belief, like Sagan's invisible dragon story. It's a system that made up a problem for them to solve, and people don't see that. The NT was written to match the OT. The namesake said we can transcend here and now, as conscious stardust, not some magic realm later, be woke now. Peace!
I think we're hardwired to believe in gods and ancient priests simply took advantage of that wiring:
“Fifty thousand years ago there were these three guys spread out across the plain and they each heard something rustling in the grass. The first one thought it was a tiger, and he ran like hell, and it was a tiger but the guy got away. The second one thought the rustling was a tiger and he ran like hell, but it was only the wind and his friends all laughed at him for being such a chickenshit. But the third guy thought it was only the wind, so he shrugged it off and the tiger had him for dinner. And the same thing happened a million times across ten thousand generations - and after a while everyone was seeing tigers in the grass even when there were`t any tigers, because even chickenshits have more kids than corpses do. And from those humble beginnings we learn to see faces in the clouds and portents in the stars, to see agency in randomness, because natural selection favours the paranoid. Even here in the 21st century we can make people more honest just by scribbling a pair of eyes on the wall with a Sharpie. Even now we are wired to believe that unseen things are watching us.”
― Peter Watts, Echopraxia
The sharpie bit is a real experiment. The author has a doctorate in biology and sources where he got his ideas at the end of his books.
Telling someome who isn't Christian to fear God and his divine wrath is no different from someone who practices Hinduism telling a non-Hindu person they're gonna reincarnate as a lowly worm. Or a devout Muslim telling a non-Muslim person they're going to Hell for eating pork.
It really doesn't do much for anyone other than make you look like an asshole.
Heads up, everyone. I just got off the phone with Ba'al and he is pissed!
Religious people like being watched and punished.
Why are you giving this dumbass a voice?
This may be part of the current wave of white Christian nationalists, who are popping off in social media, as they interpret the US 2026 midterms as a sign of the end times. (The WCN popular doctrine is Evangelical, and believes in the Second Advent.), because God cares deeply about politics in America.
I'm baptised, atheist and can confidently say that I'm a better person than most Christians in the USA. After all, if they didn't agree with what is being done in their name, they wouldn't support it.
christofascists making bioweapons or dirty bombs or some shit, wants to murder millions, but it's not their genocidal fantasies - it's GOD.
sure bud.
And he will separate the sheep from the goats.
To one side he will place those who fed the poor and housed the homeless and healed the sick and visited those in prison.
And to the other side he will place those who did not do those things.
And to those who ministered unto the poor, the sick, the unhoused, and the imprisoned, he will say "Welcome home. My kingdom is yours."
And they will ask "Lord, Lord! When did we see you and minister unto you?"
And he will tell them "That which you have done for the least of these, my brethren and sistren and siblens, you have done for me."
And to those who did not minister unto the poor, the sick, the unhoused, and the imprisoned, he will say "Depart from me, for I never knew you."
And they will cry "Lord, Lord! When did we see you and not minister unto you?"
And he will say "That which you have not done for these, my brethren and sistren and siblens, you have not done for me."
And he will banish them into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Why should I be afraid? Isn't he like really merciful and stuff?
reads bible
Oh
Yeah, the God of the Bible is a monster.
That's why there was a whole school of thought back in antiquity called Gnosticism where they thought the god of the bible was an evil demiurge that had stolen their souls and locked them in this hellish earth to torture them lol
The righteous badass power people try to project into their keystrokes just doesn't come out of the screen.
Shiver me timbers, the God that doesn't bother preventing rape and genocide may lift a finger against me. Must mean I'm a good guy.
But if you are a Christian, God might come and randomly tell you to murder your child or randomly rape you wife and you shall be fully accepting of that reality.
That's unrealistic. You can't rape your wife. You own her. It's like saying masturbation is raping yourself. - MAGA
Fully knowing that God is testing you, as part of a six way parlay against Satan God placed on Kalshi.
You'll sacrifice a pure white lamb in your son's stead. Or your best friend's wife will secretly be into rape-play or something. Then you'll continue to be one of the Chosen and blessings will accrue to you endlessly.
Point is it'll all work out in the end. Or, if it doesn't, God hasn't really selected you to go to Heaven from the moment of your birth, so there's nothing you could have done anyway.
I'm far more afraid of nutjobs like that bringing a gun to my kid's school because they heard the voice of god or whatever, or justifying the bombing of a school full of little girls because "whoops, wrong god," or deciding an entire planet full of people is done living because your ancient fanfic told you it was a good idea to kill the people you disagree with after you're done beating your slaves properly.
Organized religion has proven to be the single most devastating invention the human race has ever come up with. It genuinely needs to die.
Idk if god isn’t some morally bankrupt joke and actually thought about my life, I think I’d be ok, I volunteer regularly, I give to charity, I like to do random acts of kindness, I’m always ready to lend a hand or a shoulder to cry on. I believe very strongly in the power of community and I’m a lot more culturally christian than most believers I know, I like all the love your neighbor stuff, do unto others, what we do to the least of us… I feed the hungry, I give drink to the thirsty, I welcome the stranger, I clothe the naked, the only one I don’t do is visit those in prison. If god is a good and moral being, I’ll be ok and if it turns out they don’t exist, well I’ll have lived a good life
God should be afraid of me, as I name it quite frequently when I swear (and never in a positive way). It's a sad thing it doesn't exist, because I'm pretty sure if it did actually exist, so many of these so-called christians would be going to hell way faster than I am; after all, I don't need the fear of a divine punishment to understand that raping kids is an awful thing that should be punished.
I would have thought he was feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and visiting the imprisoned 24/7 and would be too busy to post online.
The shear lack of cognitive empathy here is mind blowing. They cannot fathom a world in which they might be wrong. I mean there’s faith and then there is this. I have faith the sun will rise tomorrow, but I can imagine a scenario, however contrived, where that doesn’t happen.
Why would I be afraid of the Abrahamic God's judgement when I know that wily Odin is forever forestalling Ragnarok?
If we're being real Odin would absolutely body the god of the bible in a Flyting.
I mean, that's sort of by design.
The God of the New Testament throws fights all the time. All their favorite people are Martyrs. The greatest hits mostly involve dying and then doing benign miracles from beyond the grave.
I saw this thing once where a christian group had done an experiment where they interviewed people and they found that "people who said they didn't believe in god felt uneasy when saying it" and used that to conclude that they were afraid of gods judgement. No you fucking idiots. They're uneasy about YOU!!!
And what about all the other religions out there? What a western-centric veiw.
Pff, you wish, loser, my sky dad can definitely beat yours up. Pussy ass bitch sends angels to do all his murders anyways.
I believe it as much as I believe "regional management is in the area so be ready for a visit." Believe it when I see it.

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