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[–] 144 points 3 days ago* (14 children)

A big purchase needs a big screen!

When you can plug your phone into your workstations USB c dock and you have DeX or another equivalent, the lines start to get blurry.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I can’t plan a trip without two 27” screens.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Its true! One needs a couple windows and/or several tabs with different things open. Itineraries, transport options, budget stuff, its a research project.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    With Linux phones, will you even be able to tell the difference.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Yes. Right now there are significant functional differences. In the future, maybe. Human Interface capabilities are always going to be the primary limiting factor, and as of now there are plenty of people who still much prefer actual tactile responses to computing to verify interaction. Physical buttons very clearly respond to inputs - except of course when they don't for [insert IT guy sigh here].

    Plus, I can tell you for sure that Linux ARM distros are functional, yes, but don't compare to what an optimized PC distro or a dedicated mobile OS on ARM is like. My RaspberryPi with its fully optimized OS and ARM processor can't handle the same thing my phone can do in the background while I browse several tabs on the internet. Is it the RAM? I dunno, my laptop had the same RAM as the Pi until a couple months ago and still could multitask better. Play a game and watch a video and have multiple tabs open for the game. The Pi struggles on certain websites and that's all I ask of it.

    Just because it exists doesn't mean it is ready for primetime.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Upvoted for truth, I was going with the idea of a monitor out from a phone, aka DeX (a horrible Samsung proprietary version of something that could be from a Linux phone, a free desktop, I believe it can happen, but expressed poorly) which has heaps of potential for turning phones into general computers. The next PC, in your pocket, and re-purpose a whole lot of e-waste, perhaps through LLM decomposition.

    Right now I'm exploring SBC versions of the idea, nothing dramatic, give me books to read, music to listen to and whatever else a free OS has to offer and ideally a 5. something inch OLED or maybe a drawable eInk (currently remote desktop to my phone) screen and I'll be happy, especially if I plugged it together myself.

    Not at all prime time, not sure I even want that. But fair criticism if it was, idea may have some resonance?

    And no, you couldn't have guessed from one sentence. Seems we're mostly aligned?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Look up Project Ada, I believe it was. Google/Motorola had a functional mockup of basically a Lego kit for phones. Abandoned for lack of general interest.

    If you want it DIY, then DIY. The vast majority of people want something that just works. There's a slice of that who care about the specifics, the nitty gritty, the full capability and functionality. I'm somewhere in that surprisingly broad range of a slice. You are too, it seems, but even then my willingness to tolerate jank with the amount of processing power available to literal children these days is extremely limited. My 8-bit NES ran better with only a few spare kilobytes and you mean to tell me actual gigabytes isn't enough room to do flying cartwheels? Sorry, fuck outta here.

    Proof of concept is one thing and I can run with that, but daily driver? I need more.

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  • [–] 66 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    You guys can afford plane tickets?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Its been so long since I've flown that I think my butthole has tightened up too much to handle the cavity searches.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Last flight I was on transferred through China and the security guy cupped my balls with a determination that no one's done since the guy who checked me after my powdered mashed potatoes set off the bomb detectors in the US.

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  • [–] 62 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    The number of Gen Z students who write term papers on their phones (not even tablets!) is alarming to me. It's like 30% of them in my class. Their thoughts aren't necessarily bad, and I grade them seriously, but yikes-- the formatting!

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  • [–] 48 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Touch screens are just fundamentally a shit way to efficiently do any sort of text input. Not to mention the screen size and OS tooling is completely insufficient for any kind of research.

    Little screen for little info. Big screen for big info.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    OS tooling

    I was once writing an assignment last minute. On a full train. Where I could only use my phone while standing.
    Not the best experience, but using Vim and LaTeX in Termux is pretty doable.
    Although in that case I didn't have LaTeX directly on my phone, instead I SSHd into my computer, and then rsynced PDFs to preview the document. But TeX Live is even in the Termux repository, if you want. After all, you can SSH into your phone just the same.

    Termux is awesome. I sometimes even use it to off-load stuff I don't want my computer to be choking with, such as large downloads, video encoding or compressing large files with high xz settings.
    It's just a battery-powered highly portable passively cooled computer.
    But of course, a full-fledged Linux phone would be even better.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    VIM ON TERMUX?? This person is totally nuts idk if i should pay deep respect or suggest to go in a psychiatric hospital

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I assume the students in my class are all gen z, they all have laptops as far as I can tell.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    To be honest, so do mine. The giveaway is when the formatting is horrible and it's a . notes file, plus I've asked them about it. My current guess is a lack of typing skill, but that's concerning none the less.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    I desktop that shit. Laptop is fine for everyday, but anything over 500 bucks has to be desktop.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

    I mainframe that shit. Desktop is fine for casual use, but plane tickets are just too important to trust to anything but a multi-million dollar supercomputer I access remotely over an encrypted line from a dumb terminal at a secure location

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago*

    I send my highly trained executive agent for that shit. My supercomputer is fine for casual use, but plane tickets are just to important to trust to anything that isn't my trusted right hand ninja assassin / secretary.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 days ago

    Anything over £100 is a big screen purchase.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    My friend arranged a mortgage on his phone. He is a traitor to our generation!

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    People buy houses on their phones, not just the mortgage

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  • [–] 21 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it usually involves typing. And it's not like you're buying plane tickets while already on the way to the airport so it usually can wait a few hours and you don't have to torture yourself by typing anything on a phone.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago

    you don't have to torture yourself by typing anything on a phone.

    I think that's part of the generational divide, gen z / alpha can type better on their phones then on a keyboard. Also probably very reliant on auto correct.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

    As a millennial I have no idea how to block ads on my phone, and therefore refuse to use the internet on the damn thing.

    Edit: Thanks for the advice, y'all! I'll be giving those a try.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago

    If you want a different solution that doesn't require installing anything and works across (almost) every app, open Android settings, search "private DNS" and set it to dns.adguard.com

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Meanwhile, travel agents are coming back. Mostly because the travel industry weaponized all the tech against us commoners.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I was agonising over booking a long, complicated trip I did last year, and a friend who works organising corporate stuff told me to shut up and go to a travel agent.

    A nice fellow just rattled away at his keyboard and came up with an itinerary that was cheaper than anything I'd come up with myself. No charge - they scrape from the airlines I guess - and I got a free ballpoint. After decades of planning my own travel, I am converted.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Plane tickets? In this economy?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago

    I remember the days when you had to drive downtown to a travel agent and have them create a ticket for you. Then they'd print it off. If you lost it, you lost your flight.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Gen Z: "It's OK, airline app. You're my friend, I trust you to give a fair price without comparison shopping"

    Millennial: "How much is an extra seat for my Pokémon cards?"

    Me: "I'm too old for this! How am I in both categories?!"

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    A laptop? I need a desktop with at least 2 display screens!

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago

    Listen. When you wake up one morning and think you’re having a stroke, but instead find out you need reading glasses, then you’ll understand.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago

    Gen z aren't buying shit in this economy.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    TIL I am a 2000's millenial.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    As a millennial, I can't believe I fit that stereotype perfectly!

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Even when I try to use my phone, I often have issues with the website I'm ordering from. Try on my laptop and it usually works fine. The truth I think is that developers build on desktops/laptops, so they test more there. It's easier for them. This makes it more likely for bugs to crop up anywhere that gets less testing. I myself have not always tested all of the "safe" changes I've made (on every browser/platform).

    And yes, as a generation who grew up with the extremely user friendly form factor that allows tiled windows, easy tab switching, and shortcut keys... Giving all that up to not have to get up off the couch seems silly most of the time.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago

    I think mobile would pick up more for everyone if the average app/web mobile interface wasn't a complete and utter piece of junk lol.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Gen Z with big hands, fuck typing on phone... Took me a good two minutes to write this.

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  • Where's the desktop computer? As a geriatric millennial I don't get you kids and your newfangled technology. ;) ;) ;)

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago

    GenX needs that 27" monitor.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    My Gen X partner recently chastised my millennial self for buying plane tickets on my phone, but I don’t own a laptop!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    i only buy plane tickets from computers with 10TB of storage and 750 watt power supplies

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    Both: The climate crisis and mass extinction of other species must be someone else’s responsibility.

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