https://archive.ph/2026.11.05-224738/https://www.ft.com/content/32fd4450-5880-437d-9bd9-df13289ada24

The US midterm elections — in which voters elected anti-data centre governors in Texas, Georgia and Ohio and passed 38 local votes in favour of restrictions on their development — have forced the tech industry to reflect on its failure to connect with the public.

“The reason is not that people are Luddites . . . it’s much like the protests against the masks in Covid. It has become a political symbol,” said Vik Bajaj, co-chief executive of the Jeff Bezos-backed AI start-up Prometheus.

. . . “As a profession, we have spent two years pretty dangerously telling people that AI will change the future of work for the worse — that they will be out of jobs, that their children will be out of jobs, their grandchildren will live in a world that’s unrecognisable. And then for the last year or so, we’ve also been flirting with the idea that it’s an existential crisis.”

“I think this election was a big wake-up call . . . to take a pause and think about what’s happening and approach this in a way that’s maybe a little more thoughtful,” said John Hanke, founder of Niantic Spatial, the AI world model company and gaming group that made Pokémon Go. “It’s been go, go, go, build, build, build, and some of that has been . . . with head buried in sand.”

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[–] 109 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Comparing ai datacenter backlash to masking backlash during covid is insane.

If anything, being pro-mask is being anti-ai. Its just fucking logical.

Or, you know, the more likely approach is datacenters just make everyones lives worse in multiple unique ways. Maybe they dont want that if its a willing choice, unlike a pandemic.

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  • [–] 30 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    The attempt to frame anti-ai sentiment as similar to anti-vax is a deliberate attempt to paint protesters as ‘emotional’, ‘illogical’ or just plain stupid. Fuck it, I don’t think it’s even worth arguing with people who say stuff like that.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago

    Indeed, when refuting bad faith digs like this, you give them credibility in the eyes of the uniformed.

    The trick is to counterattack on your own points, not answer their baseless talking points. I.e.:LM models are not AI, and never will be, they will never pay for these data centers, and our tax dollars will bail them out in exchange for bending us over for the government and their pals.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    Maybe we should just run with it and get the anti-vaxxers on board with opposing data centers too. Just tell them after they chip us they're going to use the data centers to control us all.

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  • [–] 13 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    The comparison is also stupid because being "anti-mask", was literally a political symbol.

    Also, people are not protesting data centers as a "political symbol". They are protesting them because it's a huge waste of energy and effort that provides mostly trash results that will never be efit most people in a meaningful way that is accelerating the already shitty climate problem.

    Not to mention tech companies have spent a decade now obliterating trust in tech they spent the previous decades building. No fucking privacy, no choice to just use a product. It's all 10,000 ads or subscriptions that just go up and up and up for more features and improvements no one fucking needs or wants because everything has to "move fast." Then they just start forcibly hoovering up all the data, and even if you take a LOT of pain in the ass steps to avoid letting your data get sucked up they do it anyway by pulling your friends and relative's data about you and making it harder and harder to do anything with data protections in place line blockers and VPNs.

    People are just tired of these shit fuck tech companies, in general.

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  • [–] 58 points 16 hours ago

    Let’s just fix that headline to make it a bit more accurate:

    AI backlash threatens make-believe trillion-dollar data centre boom before they have a chance to cash out, say tech leaders

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  • [–] 49 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

    Shut up booster.

    Meanwhile, back in reality, it's AI's shitty unit economics doing this. A ton of laws have also been broken trying to build these data centers as fast as possible.

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  • [–] 28 points 17 hours ago

    Their comments aren't self-awareness or introspection. Its just a knee jerk reaction to things not going in their favor.

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    Data center boom Data center bubble

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  • [–] 24 points 16 hours ago

    Oh my god, not the data centers!

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  • Yes. Yes it does.

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  • [–] 20 points 14 hours ago

    ... Then maybe goy shouldn't have invested trillions in that

    Also, fuck you. You made me jobless, I have no empathy for any of you

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  • [–] 18 points 9 hours ago

    Trillion dollars of their money. Not ours. We never wanted this shit. They wanted this shit in order to surveil us and make billions more.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 hours ago* (2 children)

    “The reason is not that people are Luddites . . . it’s much like the protests against the masks in Covid. It has become a political symbol,” ~ Vik Bajaj, co-chief executive of the Jeff Bezos-backed AI start-up Prometheus.

    Fuck off Vik, take bezos with you.

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    Boo fucking hoo.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 hours ago

    it’s much like the protests against the masks in Covid

    'ai' is not the masks in this scenario, it is the fucking virus.

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  • [–] 11 points 15 hours ago

    Threatening the data center boom is the whole point of the backlash.

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  • [–] 10 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

    Think of all that sweet sweet pennies on the dollar ram/GPU/sad/hdd that can flood the 2nd hand market

    They'll at least make something back

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  • [–] 14 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

    The problem with that is that a big chunk of that hardware is in formats that are no good for home use.

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    You must have a way bigger home than me. No way am I going to be listening to that jet engine sounding hardware in my house.

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  • [–] 9 points 12 hours ago

    Time to deflate this imaginary bubble.

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  • [–] 9 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    We'll know the bubble is over when we can get $3/GB DRAM again. Until then we're still under it.

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  • [–] 4 points 14 hours ago

    Oh man. Currently rocking an AMD AM4-socket CPU with 64 GB of DDR4 - I did have 32GB but when one of my sticks failed, it was actually cheaper to upgrade to 64 than it was to replace an 8.

    Haven't upgraded anything in my desktop in over 5 years. An entry-level AM5 setup would cost about three times as much as my entire computer did, and would be a much less powerful machine. Completely stupid. Just hoping all my components keep holding up until the whole bubble explodes.

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  • [–] 7 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

    am i completely crazy or does the data center obsession only make sense if these companies are operating under the assumption that they'll be used for cyberwarfare?

    like the economics fully do not make sense unless you assume you'll have a blank check for maximum utilization in the near future and the only money faucet big enough to meet that demand is in the defense budget. it explains the outright hostility to residents, the secrecy, and the maximalism of it all. but it doesn't seem to be part of the conversation. why?

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  • [–] 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    I can see two potential explanations:

    1. Hubris on the part of the tech giants. We already know they’re hubristic, it’s possible that they thought they could actually make it intelligent. (This seems even more likely when you understand the “spiritual” beliefs of the people building the datacenters. The “T” in TESCREAL tells us a lot about how these dumbasses think).

    2. Surveillance apparatus of the state. Would the state want to do this? Yes, 100%. Can the state afford to use and maintain this? Absolutely not.

    So, I’m personally leaning towards Option 1 with a small side of option 2

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  • The silicon valley mentality involves selling a product before it's useful and sometimes even before it exists. They believe that it will become profitable they just don't know how yet. But if it turns out not to be that profitable then they will try to pass the buck on to the public one way or another.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago

    I think it's simpler, and perhaps even more perverse.

    Lemmy often talks about AI as if it's a monolith, but these companies are in competition. No one wants left behind in not having enough compute to keep training and advancing their own models. Also, if they're not building, investors are going to get antsy, thinking that company isn't a serious competitor.

    They all know damned well this is a bubble, but they're banking on being the winner that crawls out the blast crater. They're deliberately fucking our economy on the gamble that they alone prevail.

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago

    Hacking sort of depends on there being a bug in the targeted infrastructure, a so called exploit, which you can, well, exploit. If you don't have one, all you can do is brute force attacks, which are impractical, no matter how much you're willing to invest. You may want a high end llm looking for vulnerabilities, but the enemy probably doesn't have enough stuff to justify using more than a handful of those. And you'd want those computers running in underground bunkers, not in exposed data centers on the surface.

    The whole data center build out only serves to excite investors. It's a waste of resources in every other regard. A symptom of late-stage capitalism.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 hours ago

    I read the whole thing, and all I got was "oh shit, we might be fucked because of the non-billionaires, let's start making them believe we care about them“.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago

    Yeah, AI backlash threatens us with a good time!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 hours ago

    They realized the people still have the ultimate power and they can't just pretend that we don't exist

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  • [–] 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    Tbh it should threaten more than just data centers iykwim.

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago

    Only boom I understand is 💥

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago

    Threaten data center boom? I think the title means threaten me with a good time.

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    Cool. Tell the tech leaders that I say “suck my dick”

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago

    Yes that's the goal

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    [–] 71 points 13 hours ago

    Seems to be good-news-friday

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  • [–] 37 points 13 hours ago

    This sounds like a win for homeowners power bills…infinite growth projections for these projects was ludicrous levels of stupidity.

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  • [–] 30 points 13 hours ago

    I hope that this means thoughtful conversations about how much AI compute infrastructure is actually useful given realistic demand curves, where it should be located, what resources will it require, and, importantly, how the companies that benefit from it will directly share those benefits, as compared to hazy gestures towards "economic development".

    I fear that this is just the industry telling us they're about to start lying even more than they have.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 hours ago

    "Won't somebody think of the poor billionaires?!"

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  • [–] 18 points 12 hours ago*

    Maybe this was simply too much, too fast, with insufficient demonstrable value.

    But the NDAs, backroom deals, hoarding, shell games with debt, blatant illegal activity and disregard for environmental laws and just all the fucking shenanigans have to come to a head. Of course this was going to get hit with backlash!

    If all these companies weren’t treating this as a selfish land grab maybe everyone wouldn’t hate them.

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  • [–] 18 points 12 hours ago*

    I mean, these tech CEOs went to college graduation ceremonies and said "None of you will be getting jobs, lol" and went on TV and said "AI will destroy humanity" and then ramped their data center expansion so rapidly that peoples electric bill went up by 300% and when the public hates them and their technology and votes accordingly they are "What happened? How can people be so short-sighted? Why is this so political?"

    I dunno, fuckheads, maybe move fast and break things isn't a popular strategy when applied to society.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 hours ago

    "The fact that my business model doesn't work is an unfair threat to my business model!"

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    This shit wouldn't have happened if we sent all the Web3 guys to the bottom of the ocean.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 hours ago

    The current AI craze is a fraud that's pushed by the "tech leaders".
    So hungry for money they build "empty" datacenters just to rent them out at a later date to an unknown customer...
    Meanwhile the big names are giving each other their money and hardware in some perverse rotation scheme and call it profits.

    They're all so glued to it that they urgently need to prevent the bubble bursting lest they destroy all their riches.

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  • [–] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    Think about poor defenseless data centers!

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  • [–] 9 points 12 hours ago

    And once again, all tech leaders give a shit about his money. They're willing to destroy the planet, eat up all the energy, pollute all the water, it doesn't matter, as long as they can make their fucking money.

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  • [–] 8 points 12 hours ago

    It's not the danger that pisses me off. That's manageable with good regulation and enforcement. It's their insistence that I have to embrace this technology or else forgo the technologies and services that I regularly use that I object to!

    Google used to be awesome. Now search is a garbage fire that barely works. Texting on my phone used to predict typed words based on my frequently used words, now it offers words that I almost never use! I can't even use Google Assistant any longer without signing up for Gemini.

    Nvidia used to sell graphics card to consumers and those cards were affordable. Now even ten year old refurbished cards are getting more expensive and harder to find.

    Most other tech companies suck in much the same way. Used to be great (or at least pretty good)... Went all-in on AI... Now it sucks giant donkey balls AND the product or service is more expensive than ever! Fuck me right?!

    The capabilities of AI are indeed impressive, but not everyone needs it and most people like me don't want it. And I, for one, am absolutely not willing to pay for any AI services period!

    And let's not forget the environmental disaster the data centers have turned out to be!

    I hope the entire AI industry dies in a fire!

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  • [–] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    We went from 0 data centers to 3 under construction in the last couple years. I hope they abandon the projects and let wildlife have the land back.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 hours ago

    A trillion dollars for who, to achieve what? For the rich, to enrich themselves.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 hours ago

    i throw money why no works ? ? ?

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  • [–] 5 points 12 hours ago

    Oh no…

    Anyway, how’s this Friday going for everyone?

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    ooohhh nooooo....

    the tragedy

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  • [–] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    No one wants your AI running in jet powered freshwater-sucking data centers when you can run open models on the equivalent of a few incandescent bulbs.

    Not to mention it makes no sense to trust these corporations that stole all the training data to keep your intellectual property safe and out of their future models.

    None of it makes sense.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 hours ago*

    when you can run open models on the equivalent of a few incandescent bulbs.

    dear god, why do you fucking ai cheerleaders keep coming to FUCK AI?

    THE OPEN MODELS ARE STILL BUILT ON STOLEN INFORMATION.

    here's an idea, do without. you don't need the trash. you don't need to steal. you got along fine before AI, you'll get along fine after. stop making it your entire personality.

    jfc

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  • [–] 6 points 12 hours ago

    The half finished, already in debt AI centers, offering services that the public is widely unwilling to pay for?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    imagine if we put this much into the power grid. Might have cheap electricity instead of centralized AI.

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