I hope this question is allowed here.

A random cafe asked for 10/20/30% for takeout.

Thanks for all the helpful kind replies:)

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[–] 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve heard that the banks are shipping the credit card terminals with tipping enabled by default, so it is up to vendors to disable it and most are not doing it. There are all sorts traditionally non tipping business across Canada that now ask for tips on the terminal. There is almost always an option for either no tip or custom where you can enter 0.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Thank you for your reply. That is interesting to know.

    Is it still culturally okay to not tip? I found the options also shocking.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Places that have traditionally relied on tipping such as waiters and delivery drivers it would be considered uncouth to not tip.

    Places that have not traditionally relied on tips such as fast food or take out it is considered perfectly normal to not tip. Anecdotally I have seen stories online that the employees of these traditionally non tipping business often don’t receive the tips anyway, so all the more reason not to do so.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    For takeout, it's ok and totally normal not to tip, by machine or tip jar. If it's a local joint you like, feel free to add 50c, in my head I will cover part of the credit card transaction fee for them sometimes.

    Sit down restaurant with table service and waiters has had tipping culture as the norm.

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  • [–] 7 points 18 hours ago

    Don't let the POS machines anchor what is considered reasonable... I will always take the extra effort to do 10% because their suggestions always start at something gross like 20%+. And only for dine in too...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    If eating at a cafe or restaurant I generally tip, but only if these is table service.

    If I am purchasing and leaving then I consider that "shopping" and I don't tip at grocery stores as a example, so I am not tipping.

    You will find most small businesses program their POS (Point of Sale) systems one way for all their checkouts. So if they need the option for tipping on one POS, it's their default for all their POS.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago

    It's a hold over from days when restaurant service staff were paid a lower than normal wage and customers were expected to supplement their earnings with a tip. Wage laws have changed and they now earn as much as any other service worker. So no reason to tip for simply moving a plate from the kitchen to your table. This will cover 90% of what they do.

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  • [–] 5 points 19 hours ago

    It's common in restaurants and the like, over the last decade it's been creeping into more and more places.

    Minimum wage for servers used to be lower to reflect this but they were brought up to everyone else a few years ago.

    I'll tip for table service but not takeout.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    @ComradeMiao Yes, and it's annoying AF!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    Yes it's ok not to tip on takeout. I generally do 0 or 10%. If there is a cup I'll throw a dollar or two in there.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    AFAIK "the norm" is...

    1. 15% for table service. But some places changed the default options to start at 18%. IMO anything above 15 requires genuinely good service.

    2. Flat amount for beer / barista counter service. I usually tip $1 per beverage. 0.25 for drip coffee if they roast their own beans.

    3. Takeout you don't have to tip but people often do tip their favorite mom & pop restaurants.

    POS machines have tips enabled by default these days. Generally if you care about tipping retail workers you should leave cash. Outside of barista/bar environments it's almost certain POS tips don't go to the person who served you.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago

    POS machines have tips enabled by default these days.

    Even if it wasn't asked for.

    I sometimes volunteer to work the canteen at my local community center during tournaments and the POS terminal has tips enabled even though the board has asked the vendor for it to not be.

    The volunteers are instructed to skip past the tip screen before we hand it over to the customers.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    No, it's an American thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago

    The expectation for tipping everyone all the time is another negative American export, but tipping a waiter at a sit down restaurant if they give good service has been the norm since my grandparents were young.

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  • [–] 1 point 19 hours ago (3 children)

    People tip here all the time at restaurants. Tipping at Starbucks or some bullshit - no not as much agreed.

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Tell them that we don’t do that.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    I only tip for the wait staff at a restaurant, I never tip for orders I am picking up for myself. But generally speaking tipping is the norm in Canada.

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  • [–] 2 points 22 hours ago

    I'm surprised how varied the responses are. I'm not living in toronto but I always feel guilty not tipping when it prompts. I usually only tip the older typical tippimg establishments.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    I think tipping is the norm across Canada.

    The 10/20/30% is most likely pre-set on the system and can't be changed based on take-out or dine-in.

    Most times a tip is not expected on take-out (depending on what kind of service of course) , but it is still appreciated by the person who served you, or the kitchen who made your food, again, depending on the type of service.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Oh really? I did not know it was the norm… thought that was a more American thing.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    sadly it's something that infected Canada. be the change the world needs, don't tip.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    This isn't the answer though. At a broader societal level we should remove tipping as standard, but as an individual it just means you're freeloading. Unless you're getting take-out, the price is 10% more than it is listed as.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    Moreso in the US for sure, because the service industry doesn't make a living wage in most states (tipped minimum is something like $2.15/hr there!) . Tipping has been normalized in Canada as well, but as far as I know no one is making less than $15/hr across Canada, so our service industry doesn't rely on it for survival in the same way the US does.

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  • [–] 3 points 19 hours ago*

    Our tipping culture is the same as the US except older Canadians tend to be a bit more thrifty with their tipping than Americans I have found. I grew up in the US where anything less than 20 percent was an insult at nicer restaurants. I find that here people reserve that amount for exceptional experiences but tipping at restaurant where you are served at the table is at least 15%

    For takeout or fast food? Fuck that shit. Ignore and just tap and be on your way.

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