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Pluribus Season 2 Officially Begins Filming Apple TV (scifispiral.com)
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[–] 22 points 6 days ago (1 child)

So what, a potential 2028 release? Hope I don't forget about the show by then.

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    • [–] 15 points 6 days ago

    BEGINNING? God damn it

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    [–] 13 points 6 days ago

    Took em long enough. I don't want to wait another year

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    [–] 87 points 6 days ago (39 children)

    If you are doing limited run shows with short season with big names and big money AND you don’t film back to back then wtf are you doing.

    They used to knock out 24 episodes a season and now these studios take 3 years to do 11 episodes. Then some new exec comes in and cancels the show after 2 seasons which took 4 years for some reason.

    I like the shorter seasons. I like less filler. Just pick up the pace.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    For most shows they only do the first season in case it's cancelled. But we're talking about the new show by the Breaking Bad guy... You know he wasn't going to get cancelled. There's no reason for it take this long.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    His previous series was cancelled after 9 episodes…

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  • [–] 15 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    No

    Filler episodes helped a lot to deepen characters. In star trek, some of the beat episodes were fillers

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago

    This.

    By its name, filler episodes are considered less relevant, but they have more purpose than just increasing the episode counter.

    They also allow to explore topics, situations and plots that is not feasible in the main story branch.

    Filler episodes are also commonly used as opportunities for new directors to gain experience, even allowing cast members to test the waters.

    And the most important, allowing to breathe between heavy and intense main plot episodes.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    They do this with Slow Horses. One stand alone season every year amd the last episode invludes preview scenes of the next season.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    Human cost? Filming for 16 hour days 6 days a week impacts actors and crews lives.

    Most long running TV shows cite this as the reason for losing stars - e.g. Mulder and Scully leaving the X Files.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    Understandable. Which is why I like the 10 episode seasons. But if you telling me they can’t do 10 a year. Cmon

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    I guess people forgot how many shitty episodes were made in 20 episode seasons.

    Good writing and filming takes time. If they rushed three quick seasons you guys would whine about the quality.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago

    Show me one "streamee" show as rewatchable as any top ten 20 episode a season syndicated show.

    Pick and top ten syndicated show and seelct eight to ten episodes a season that would leave it as well off and respected as it is currently.

    Those duds were lost to the vibe.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 days ago* (11 children)

    When someone makes a great work like this, I say let them do it on their terms. If season two sucks then your complaints were warranted. If not, they aren't imo.

    Edit: also how are comparing sitcoms to shows like this which are clearly far higher budget and overall effort in general?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago (10 children)

    Back in the day, there were some big budget shows like LOST and Heroes which did have ~20 episode seasons with only a few months in between seasons. After the 2007 writers strike and the rise of streaming, that seemed to stop and we got the 8-10 episode seasons with multi year gaps in between.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Lost and Heroes were not as big-budget as you think. Much of the money was spent on doing things quicker, as they only had 5-7 working days to shoot each episode. This meant simpler writing, simpler direction, simpler sets and very samey episodes. The cast and crew were simply fighting to get something in the can, regardless of quality.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Never watched Heroes, but Lost had a pretty noname cast aside from the one hobbit and maybe the guy who played Linus. OK, also Michelle Rodriguez of course but she didn't last on the show a long time if I remember correctly? And Daniel Dae Kim had a bunch of roles before it but they were all side characters.

    Most of the main cast that had to be there nearly every day of shooting consisted of folks who didn't have to put off other major roles to do it.

    And it was a season a year, wdym only a few months between seasons?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago

    What I meant about a few months between seasons was that because there were 20 weekly episodes, the show would be on for about half of the year, and then the hiatus between seasons was only a few months. For example, the Season 2 finale of LOST was on May 24, 2006 and the Season 3 premiere was on October 4, 2006.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 days ago

    I watched like 20 minutes of Lost and that was more than enough. That show is known for being confusing and incomprehensible and imo thought it was being deep but wasn't. Heroes also seems much inferior in quality to a show like Pluribus.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    AND you don’t film back to back

    Can't understand why they don't do this. Surely that would make the whole thing cheaper.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    Some do, like Slow Horses. And a lot of basic cable shows. Unions aren’t keen as it cheats their members out of seasonal pay bumps.

    The other danger is when you then shoot two seasons without the benefit of audience reaction to guide the development of the second season, like the recent iterationof Doctor Who.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Just pick up the pace.

    There's a reason why Michelin star restaurants are not drive thrus.

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    • [–] 10 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    I'll have forgotten what happened and moved on by the time it actually comes out.

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    • [–] 8 points 6 days ago

    On the one hand I'm glad they're writing quality stuff. And the show doesn't use many special effects, so surely that'll speed things along as well.
    On the other.. Wait what show are we talking about again?

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    [–] 6 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    plurb

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    • [–] 6 points 6 days ago

    I decided to wait until a few seasons were done after watching the premier. I sorta thought it fizzled out based on what I had heard about it. Season 2s can sometimes be the best a show has to offer, though, so who knows?

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    [–] 6 points 6 days ago

    I’m excited to see more!

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    [–] 4 points 6 days ago

    Yay.

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    [–] 6 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    I thought the first few episodes were fun. It's a cool sci-fi idea. But the ending of the season really sucked. I didn't like how they

    spoilerdidn't really finish properly and just went back to the original threat of "oh no, they're going absorb you".

    So I couldn't care less about season 2.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    I was really disappointed by it as well. The thing that really annoys me is when great scifi concepts and premises get wasted because they develop the show with lazy characters and plot, and that's entirely how I felt S1 go down.

    It's not good writing for the main character to make a lot of bad choices. Writing a "flawed human being" only goes so far, before your character is acting so improbably idiotically they're just an avatar of the writer's need for plot conflict. That's pretty much what I felt slogging through S1.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 days ago

    Exactly my thoughts, I went back to find my reactions on the subject:

    spoiler

    -I have thoughts. Not sure how spoilery they are, but it's pretty universal to the first 3 episodes Carol, the main character, is either the most panicky or least curious person I've ever seen. She makes the worst decisions and asks no questions and it is so unsatisfying. Hard to put my finger on it, exactly.
    -Pluribus Episode 4: Hats off to the reigning Can't Stop Making Dumb Fucking Decisions Champion of the World
    -Took 7 Episodes, but the main character finally started being not completely fucking stupid.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    Agreed

    spoilerIt felt like watching two seasons because the second lead character is introduced so late but the plot was just treading water the whole time.

    I think the value of the show was the introspection of the characters and the trademark montage sequences. Weirdly though the show only has like 3 characters and I'm unsure how that will work long term.

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