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[–] 68 points 1 week ago (10 children)

This is not a new idea in Conservative circles. I remember having debates wih people 30 years ago, who voted for goobers like Bob Dole, George Pataki and Al D'Amato, who insisted that the rights in the Bill of Rights only applied to citizens, and foreigners in our country had no rights whatsoever.

And since Trump has decided that Omar's citizenship application is fraudulent, in his mind she never was a citizen, so is subject to the same treatment.

You see? It makes total sense, if you're a xenophobic moron!

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  • [–] 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Or Bush senior saying that he doesn't know if atheists should be considered citizens.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    "The right of the people to be... "

    "No person shall be held to answer..."

    "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall..."

    And so on.

    I don't see a single mention of citizen in there, only the people, person, the accused which are words that can refer to anyone citizen or not.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    The idea of non-citizens having different rights (not none, but a very different set) is pretty well-established. But the courts have also long upheld that it's all or nothing. Once you become a citizen, you have all of those rights. If you renounce, you lose them all. There is very little wiggle room on the subject.

    Trump decided she wasn't a citizen long before there was any question of fraud. That happened the moment she refused to kneel to him. The rest is just about how he can reach his goal of destroying anyone that would challenge him.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Just fucking die already you fat, racist dotard.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Sadly, these ideas neither started with him, nor will they die with him.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Unfortunately. The Heritage Foundation goes back to at least the early 1800s, but thats where things get murky. A direct line of people can connect Trump to Anthony Comstock.

    Trump -> Roy Cohn -> Joseph McCarthy -> J. Edgar Hoover -> Anthony Comstock (although I can't seem to figure out if Hoover and Comstock ever actually met).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (3 children)

    Thanks for the new word. Perfect.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    Don't wait, there's more! Dotage is a related term for the time period of being a dotard. I worked in elder care, and we'd often use "They're entering their dotage" as a polite way to say "they're going senile".

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Can you even imagine how horrible the world would be if human immortality were ever achieved?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Are we talking, like, we stop aging all together, or are we talking like "come back from death" immortality?

    Because the former is a problem that can be dealt with, the latter is a horror movie.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Isn't he "technically" an immigrant child? His grandfather was German, right? Soo by Trump logic he himself doesn't have rights.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Ilhan Omar has constitutional rights.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago

    Conservatives have always opposed human rights. Always.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago

    Well, to be fair, he doesn't think any other American citizen has constitutional rights either.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I suggest Trump is a traitor and seditionist and should receive a just punishment as laid out in the Constitution.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    Really fucking dumb guy says really fucking dumb shit. This and weather and sports at 11:00.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    If there is any class or category of people who have no rights, then no one has any rights.

    Because the government can just disappear full citizens into the no-rights category, and there is no right to challenge the designation.

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  • [+] 7 points 1 week ago (1 child)
  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Honest question, because this argument seems pretty fucking dumb. Is there not a process to vet and verify representatives? I would think that any crazy shit in their background would be found pretty quickly upon accepting the job.

    I mean, I get that a shitload of people have worked for this administration while ignoring their background or qualifications. In those instances, it was ignored because they wanted to. In this case, they are specifically out to get her.

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  • Trump and conservatives believe anyone they don't like for any reason doesn't have any rights.

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  • I suggest we talk about the TRUMP-EPSTEIN FILES(TM)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Trump doesn't think anyone has any rights other than to suck his fat orange sausage.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 days ago

    According to Trump, nobody has rights but Trump, who has the Divine Right of Kings.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Everyone has constitutional rights, even pedophiles like Trump

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  • Not in all states. He is, after all, a convicted felon. He'd lose SOME rights everywhere in the US, voting rights everywhere except DC, Vermont, and Maine. If he was literally anyone else, that is.

    The fact that he's functionally above the law even after being found guilty doesn't mean that others like him are..yet.

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  • If he makes that argument then we should also argue that he shouldn't have them either.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Since when has Trump cared about the constitution?

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    [–] 35 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Cannot believe this blowhard outlived Patrick Stewart.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    He doesn't believe any if us have rights.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

    For Trump, multibillionaires and giant corporations have rights. Poor people don't. If you're born poor, you're gonna stay poor and happily serve and praise the rich.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    And so it begins. They'll use her show trial as a test case, then come mass arrests.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The Orange Pedo can't go to jail fast enough.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Assclown, what? So it's ok to hold people to the Constitution while you yourself are ok to shit all over it? Fuck off.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Given that most of the bill of rights is prohibitions on the federal government doing particular things to anyone, not just citizens, he’s doubly wrong.

    And incontinent.

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    [–] 13 points 1 week ago

    Duh. He's a fucking racist and moron.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    How the fuck that obese child rapist has the gall someone else arrogant would be funny if it wasn't for all the rape victims, the corruption, the treason, the stupidity, the racism...well, you get the idea. Add to all that there's the FUCKING ARROGANCE OF THAT FAT BAG OF COWARDLY TREMBLING GONORRHOEA.
    FUCK.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago

    Why do we care what a treasonous, racist, pedophile thinks?

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  • She's brown and Muslim, if it were up to him and a good chunk of Americans she wouldn't even be allowed to live.

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