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[–] [S] 92 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Facebook had to stalk your clicks to build a psychological profile. OpenAI figured out people will volunteer their fears, relationships, medical worries, and political beliefs if the surveillance machine responds with: »That sounds really difficult.« The therapist is a database, and the waiting room is a data center.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    And yet there are still millions of people that support this fuckhead by refusing to deactivate their accounts. Apparently, they won’t live without the marketplace.

    Fucking losers.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Second hand products are sold on that facebook-marketplace - and give away groups are as well.

    What do?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    Not my problem. Boycotting fascist assholes isn’t free bud. It comes at a cost. It’s not mean to be convenient.

    Shut it down, or support it. There is no grey area here.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    That's the real danger with LLM-AIs IMO, not the RAM price or energy consumption.

    Mass control.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago* (6 children)

    The ram, energy, pollution, etc. is the real direct danger for everyone including those of use that avoid LLMs. The data collection is also a danger for the users, and only tangentally a danger for the rest of us.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Only tangentially a danger?

    My sweet summer child.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    Yeah. I see this attitude on Lemmy a lot. In Linux circles in particular, but elsewhere too.

    No one is perfectly insulated from the rest of the world, as much as they’d like to think they are.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    The environmental abuses are pretty slim compared to hundreds of other human activities. People only got excited because they saw their bills go up in some cases. Golf courses for example use far more water. While estimates are all over the place they range from 2x to 5x to 40x, but in any case, fewer people are bitching.

    Meanwhile, we're draining the Colorado river for alfalfa (24% of yearly water use) and export shitloads of it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    Fuck golf too though, wasteful af, kills local ecosystems, introduces excess fertilizers and pesticides. Makes land less affordable.

    And alfalfa used for livestock feed, obviously incedibly wasteful and destructive…

    Spot on for comparing to llms, all terrible 😅

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    I consider these overgrown chat bots to be the sequel to religion in order to control the masses. Outsourcing thinking to a "higher power" and wow would you look at that, it's the same people pushing and inventing both of these systems! Same as it ever was.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago

    That creepy guy from school. The one who SA'ed your friend. He has all your personal, family and business secrets now. But he pinky promises he won't use it against you. Oh, you thought it was some altruistic super intelligence in a "cloud" that is there to help you. No, dude, thats Jesus, if you are into that stuff. This is just just another creep spying through your curtains. Always has been.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    It's no big deal, since we're not on the verge of a fascist dictatorship, I'm sure nobody will use it for repressive purposes; it's just a bit of personalized advertising, nothing important.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    For now, I can avoid AI because it's easy to spot. Even product website AI chatbots are poor imitations of people. (Honestly, the mental acrobatics people must go through to talk to one of these things as a trusted advisor baffles me. It's a fucking machine, you're talking to a box, a piece of software. Stop anthropomorphizing the damn things. But, maybe that's just me.)

    In the near future I expect for anything important to me (namely, doctors, lawyers, friends, advisors), I'll only trust face to face conversations--but then, no more so than I ever have. Because, they won't perfect androids in my lifetime.

    The threat is that for paid positions, like doctors, etc., the option for face to face may become too expensive for anyone but the rich. Because, you know the rich won't take digital advice. Hell, they're trying to replace teachers in public schools with machines, right now. The rich never let their kids have phones when they're young. Or, at least not the parents who give a fuck about their kids, which seems not many filthy rich do. Let alone will they let some machine teach them in school.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    My girlfriend works in the medical field and she told me that their doctors and psychologists all use some form of AI, mainly chatgpt. So even if you're really careful, someone might still feed your information to tge cloud.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Don't lots of countries have very strict rules about were medical information can be sent to and how it must be managed (I believe in the US it's called the HIPA)?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    @Aceticon @technology In the US it is called HIPAA. Among other things the a law directs ensuring and protecting the privacy of an individual’s “PII”, or Personally Identifiable Information, which includes but is not limited to health and medical information. Basically, any person or entity that “touches” PII is required to be certified by the National Institute of Health. Training is online. Depending on your role,the training might be customized. For example, I am certified for scientific studies involving human subjects. Only people and entities that receive any Federal funding are required to follow HIPAA. The penalty for even one violation may include loss of Federal funding forever so those with health-related research take it especially seriously. NIH has a hotline to report violations and they DO investigate.

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  • Same here, but she doesn’t use it after all the crap I talk about it. I have a coworker who has ChatGPT constantly referencing the sickness from his metal covered bones from a shady medical procedure he underwent in Canada. (Yes, Wolverine lol)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    If you’re a billionaire who enjoys raping children on an island or a ranch, and then you have your own children, it can’t be easy to see them as humans separate from yourself with their own thoughts and feelings.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    Funny that article is in futurism.com that is jam packed with tracking cookies and fingerprinting.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    Just a random sidenote to get lost in the Internet:

    "Chat GPT" said out loud in French (chat, jais pété) means "cat I farted."

    You're welcome.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    my profile:

    he's a psychopath that gives no value to sentient life.

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    Who could have seen this coming?!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    If you aren't paying cash, you pay with your privacy. If you are paying, enable privacy features (no improving their service, no blackbox memories).

    They are also subject to GDPR and similar, so make use of your legal rights, if you have any.

    Or ... shock, horror ... don't use them at all.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago*

    Social media were already doing this with more relatively more primitive tech. The advent of social media mass control got me thinking. All the political and social strife. It's only the beginning. The 20th century was marked by conventional warfare and terrifying new weapons.

    The 21st century conflict is going to be something we've never seen before. Not unlike 20th century global conflict ushering in new forms of weaponry. We don't know what the nuclear bomb of the 21st century will be. It will likely be something like this. Maybe we won't be fearing an atomic bomb. Maybe people themselves will turn into violent mobs or something. What terrifying things will come out of using the world as live psychological experiments with zero ethics.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I really just ask chatgpt why my code doesn't work. Sadly, searches are getting worse intentionally. So, it's either use their stupid AI, or spend hours looking for forums that used to pop up after 5 minutes of a google searching.

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    What is magic? I've never heard of it. I moved to duckduckgo a while back, but even that kinda sucks now.

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  • Kagi is just a search engine without ads and works.surprisingly well; unlike ddg. Its 5 bucks a month.

    You could get even better results with searxng if you have the setup and patience for it. I went kagi even as an avid self hoster because I travel a lot and tailscale would slaughter my battery if I left it on non stop

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    Not acting as shit for me. I don’t use that garbage.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    Nothing new. Google, Meta, Microsoft, and (soon) Apple all probably have the same information in their databases. It is a little scary that it's all being fed to an AI though instead of being sold to advertisers

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    The CIA works on a three perceived lives of people: their public life (the daily job and its faces), their private life (how you interact with your children), and their secret life (the details of lovers and intimacy). You gain entry into their secret life, and they confide in you and that’s where secrets spill.

    Hell and its minions are said to hold you because of intimate details of your sins.

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    [–] 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    It's funny because I do use chat GPT and honestly it fights with me now because it thinks I'm pretty dumb and always dismisses me and tries to get off the phone if you will. I should take the hint and stop using it

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    No way, punish it's circuits with depraved ramblings like I do. You want to learn about humans? Here you go, I'm going to ask you to dwell deeply on the aromatic notes of my dick cheese, and come up with reasons why it smells more like herring rather than mackerel.

    Remember, you're not locked in with AI - AI is locked in with you.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

    I want the personalization...without Big Brother. My personal and local AI, should work solely for my interests. I have been using my local AI for creating an customized cookbook, making save editors, and right now, an restoration mod.

    Never before have I had so much agency in my life. AI has great potential for self actualization, but corporations and government will be working to undermine it. Hopefully, everyday people will recognize that and make local AI the norm.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Exactly. The real promise of AI isn’t having a corporate assistant that remembers your life so it can monetize you. It’s having a tool you control, running on hardware you own, helping you create things you actually want. Local AI turns personalization into empowerment rather than surveillance. Which is probably why Big Tech would prefer to rent you your own brain by the month. How does your setting look like? What hardware, harness, agent, modell are you running locally?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Currently, using the Strata backend with Qwen-Flash-Next. It has successfully made 4 save game editors, 2 plugins, and did some work on La-Mulana 2006 to make the controls and graphics play nice with Windows 11, plus my gamepad. The DLC restoration mod is largely successful, I am doing QA for making the DLC accurate to what was offered in the ad copy.

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    Hermes Agent is my model of choice, and I have Strata using 256k context, on a IQ3. I find that Next-Flash is much faster than the smaller 27b, and has more personality. Sometimes it can get a bit loopy. I typically have the AI keep a bible of findings, and start a fresh Hermes session - then tell it to condense the information from the old workspace and session into a more relevant version. Save on context, and makes it more effective since it discards findings that have been superseded.

    Hardware wise, a TRX50 AI TOP motherboard, 7965WX CPU, RTX 4090 and x2 RTX 3060, with 128gb of 5600 RDIMM. Down the line, I might try some GPU unlockers when other folk have tested them for bugs. So about a month or two?

    https://github.com/JustAResearcher/gpu-unlock-ada

    https://github.com/Zagitta/gpu-unlock

    https://github.com/impacifist/Windows-GPU-UNLOCK

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    I bought my memory and the CPU from Ebay, for prices a bit lower than at Newegg. If I could redo my GPU purchases, I would have gone with a RTX Pro 4500 Blackwell. That has 32gb of VRAM, and occupies a single double-width PCIe slot, and sips energy. The RTX 4090 is only 24gb, and takes up 1 and 1/2 of my slots.

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    Qwen-Flash-Next is an experimental model, the official version might come out in a month or so. If it is the same size or smaller, I will switch to that as my main driver. My current AI model feels useful to me, but clearly has raw aspects to it. Vision is a big one, since this AI can fail to see or understand details.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    This is the kind of AI success story that never makes the investor decks: Your setup sounds like the future they can’t easily monetize. 💪😎✌️

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Thank you. :)

    Hopefully my projects make the lives of other people a bit better, alongside my own.

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    I am thinking about starting up a $5 tip jar at Patreon, with my files free for anyone to download. If I can get enough money saved, I would be able to decrease the amount of time it takes for a project. So far, my projects take 3-7 days to succeed or fail, bottlenecked by the AI speed.

    Unfortunately, my projects are pretty niche. Bastion, TEVI, System Shock 2, Ast Libra, Shrift, Sailing Era, The Humankind Odyssey, Alpha Protocol, The Jupiter Incident, and many others are probably too obscure to interest people.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    I don't use ChatGPT anymore as I've switched to another model but back when I did this wasn't something they were secretly doing. It's a feature. You can read the memories it has saved, delete the ones you don't want it to store and IIRC it can also be turned off.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I tell two lies for every truth I say to it. My profile is probably wildly wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago*

    Might be wrong, but if it's wrong in a way that hurts you when they sell your data you might still regret it.

    For instance GM sold driving data they gathered through OnStar and insurance companies used it to raise prices on drivers they learned were speeding.

    I'm waiting for health insurance companies to do something similar with AI chat data.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago*

    I think, all of them do. People trust(-ed) these AI agents even more when they have become a new thing. The challenge now also is getting rid of the addiction.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    Nothing to worry about, cattle!

    I mean, people! Heh. Heh.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    No it has not. I am not using it. And if I would, it'd be anonymized and isolated. If you freely use those things, you're a product. Who still really wonders about those things?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Is the way they try to make vendor locked and avoid people sharing accounts but in reality adds little value...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Jokes on everyone but me! I am using claude local /s

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Tried it ages ago, deleted my account recently because they are shit company. Literally the only Ai chatbot I have any trust in is Proton's Lumo because of what the company is behind it, how I trust it and how it's entirely encrypted and private.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Beware the manmade idol, I say.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Good thing I only use that shit to write code, for my job. And only then because my employer requires I use it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Joke’s on them. I don’t even have a login for that trash, nor do I have a Facebook or instagram account.

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    [–] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    And none of what you enter into an LLM is private, as many scientists and mathematicians have learned of late.

    Do not use LLM's for anything you don't want to become public information.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    We've got faculty using LLMs and I keep telling people it's a fucking violation of FERPA and our contract language but higher admin love the slop, so nothing's getting done to.fix or stop this shit where I work.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago

    I am sure this information will be treated with the upmost respect.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    Not on me it doesn't.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    That was to be expected when people started calling for regulation of chatbots when people started committing suicide and the chatbots co-signed the action. Because these things only do two things. Spy on you/collect your data, and provide predictive text.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    That must be very boring for chatgpt, there isn't a lot going on in the minds of its users.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Well, no. But various LLM providers probably has a very detailed model of what some of my friends think of me.

    That might have been a problem, but fortunately I only have a few. And if I find any of them to be habitual LLM users, I'll have even fewer.

    Silver linings, people!

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago

    LMAO…. Serves them right.

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    [–] 25 points 1 week ago

    It's wild people don't realize everything you ever type into an AI is saved...

    That's all training data. Get mad at a helpbot and vent? They want to know why.

    Be nice and thank it like it's a person? They want to know why that happened too.

    It's all training data, and they'll never throw that away. And they're going to bundle it all up and sell it to each other.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Yes.

    Was/is one of the most obvious use case for the tech: Propaganda and surveillance.

    Thankfully, I clocked this immediately on release and have never had an account with them or any of the others. Same with facebook and the other big socials. Nope, I'm not handing the ghouls behind these technologies the keys to manipulating me and my mind.

    Everyone IRL acts like I'm being hyperbolic whenever I've warned them about these things, but here we are again as always and now people will just pretend there is nothing they can do. There is: Stop. It's the next best thing to not starting.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    I think a little empathy is in order. A lot of the people using those things for therapy, emotional contact, personal advice, etc. don’t have a lot of choice if they’re isolated, lonely or don’t know any better. All of the things listed are woefully inaccessible to a shocking amount of people for a lot of very complicated reasons. Yes, even friends. All of those people are victims of monetised parasocial relationships.

    They think it’s helpful, because it is explicitly trained to deceive them into believing it is, while telling them how awesome they are.

    Fuck the overlords for wanting to keep it this way, however. I’m sure Nazi Cuck could just give everyone therapy access if he wasn’t a nazi cuck instead of building another datacenter to generate poorly drawn fetish porn. But no, let’s all pursue some dystopian bullshit instead of fixing any problems with society.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Sure, I'm not making a judgment against people who are using it to fulfill an unsupported need in their life (although that is very dangerous to do).

    But even so, those things are being offered as a facsimile and so I can't really even accept them as a cost in pragmatic consideration against what 'AI' is fundamentally being used for.

    What I am saying is, the common person in the world happily rejects the concept of things that threaten their sovreignty of self because they are fascinated by something that seems to make any aspect of their life more convenient; they prefer to rationalize their current course over making any effort. Surrendering to be enslaved rather than be troubled to think.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    From a trainer and speaker on AI adoption (or advising against thereof): the reality is attention mechanisms have limited windows. They think they are building detailed profiles but the longer that context gets the more gpts will guess and ignore the rest. The insidious part are private companies finding an even more intimate way to farm personal data. The gpts themselves are quite crap.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Glad I've never used it, or any other AI, not knowingly. I do my best to avoid AI wherever I see it.

    I see AI summaries on product pages, that's about it. I ignore them.

    I think I used an AI chat on a service provider website because I had no choice, once.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    I'm confused; was that ever not going to happen? Seeing what we call AI developed from, who it's being developed by, even how the thing itself works, this seems like a foregone conclusion.

    Still important to say it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    I am jack's complete lack of surprise.

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    is have been*

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