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[–] 47 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

GIMP is good for most people. The clone is not guaranteed to be maintained.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Maintainance and/or support never can be guaranteed in vibe coded crap. Who would patch or update it? The AI?

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  • [–] 36 points 2 weeks ago

    is this some kind of AI upscale of the meme? His skin has a fabric-like texture, uncanny 👀

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  • [–] 54 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    I started with GIMP, and I've stuck with it and enjoyed it for all my use cases for over a decade.

    I tried Photoshop a few times and hated it every time.

    I love GIMP

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    Oh no you dont understand, the corpo dick suckers say the UX is terrible and the name unmarkatable, its not just their personal preferred way of handling things, aka the way Photoshop handles things.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    The name is a huge self-own. I almost convinced a church to go fully FOSS awhile back, but the church people couldn’t handle the photoshop replacement being called gimp. So then they would’ve still needed Photoshop, so the whole Linux thing was kind of a non starter

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  • [–] 23 points 2 weeks ago

    I think the trouble with art software is that Photoshop is the biggest over-complicated unwieldy piece of shit ever made, and everybody has to ape it because "it's what artists know".

    Bring back Deluxe Paint.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Gimp 3 came out this past year and I feel made massive improvements that I use often for my little simple projects but I think everyone still complaining about Gimp 2 because they tried it many years ago and said it sucks and went back to paying adobe.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    most comlpains I met is about the name, not program itself.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 weeks ago

    So meta: the original meme was a blurry photo of a tv broadcast, now it's an ai upscale in the fuck_ai community

    it doesn't seem's a screencap from that youtuber that paid like $1000 to purchase the full dvd set from the african broacaster, then watched hundreds of episodes to find it => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP2wiN7aW4U

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Sidebar, it's been interesting to watch the contrast between gimp and blender or even Krita which are truly industry competitive if not industry leaders.

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  • [–] 140 points 2 weeks ago* (37 children)

    Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete.

    It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways.

    Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.

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    'I make all my images with the GIMP." (Cracks whip at chained up leather clad person in a leather body suit and mask) "DRAW FASTER YOU WORTHLESS POS AND MAYBE MOMMY WILL LET YOU SEE AN OUTLINE OF A TITTY LATER."

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  • [–] 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

    Gimp ux was bad. It's been fine for years.

    Freecad is WAY newer, and has had a fraction of the developer time spent on it.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 weeks ago*

    And CAD is ridiculously complex. Students also practice like half a year to cope with the proprietary market leaders. I sometimes think people complain because they confuse tools made for professionals with some game on easy mode.

    But yeah, FreeCAD also isn't on par with professional tools. It's surprisingly capable and has a lot of features. And they made it crash way less. 2 years ago it used to crash several times each project when adding some chamfers or some other easy stuff and I had to do lots of stuff in order or it wouldn't work. As of now I'd say it's perfectly usable for the average hobby project. Just don't expect any CAD software to be usable without any kind of background knowledge. There's other tools for that kind of 3D design.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    "Fine" meaning "it's technically possible to use it."

    Adding and editing text is a nightmare. I feel like the only way you could say with a straight face is if you haven't used Photoshop since 2006. Hell, PowerPoint has a better interface in a lot of ways.

    I hate dunking on them like that but let's not lie to ourselves here. GIMP is good enough but the UI was clearly made by engineers, not artists

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'm an engineer and I have no idea what they were going for with that UI

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago

    That's fair. I'm an engineer, too, and the UI brings me pain. Especially because my previous career had creative cloud as the daily software.

    I guess I meant more the engineer mindset of "I already know how to use it so it's good enough"

    It reminds me of AutoCAD, my current daily software, which feels like a thousand bandaids stacked on top of each other over the course of 25 years.

    I feel obligated to say that having a bad UI doesn't mean it's bad software. I'm just tired of people pretending it's polished lol

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Adding and editing text is a nightmare. I feel like the only way you could say with a straight face is if you haven't used Photoshop since 2006. Hell, PowerPoint has a better interface in a lot of ways.

    In GIMP? You select the text tool, you click it on the canvas. It's that simple.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I've spent 3 years learning freecad, and it's bad, it's entirely incapable of holding up against moderately complex projects, a simple fillet can break the whole model. It got better with 1.0 but it's still so very far from competing with fusion or inventor / catia...

    As for gimp... I've really tried adding it to my workflow, but it's been a massive headache, I'd likely use photocraft over it given both options...

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  • [–] 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    I tried the "good UX" one back then when people hype around the update, and it still really hard to learn if you used to photoshop layout. These day, Krita is better i think, and Inkscape for the Illustrator alternative.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    Inkscape's UI is very unintuitive to me, as someone used to Illustrator. The necessary tools mostly exist, but not where I would look for them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    > “if you used to photoshop layout”

    > look inside

    > same layout as in Photoshop, and the panels are movable

    By now I'm convinced Photoshop users lack pattern recognition.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Is it? Idk, it's been ages i used it and i never went back since even though every time i need it and people always recommended me it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    It was bad when Gimp had floating windows. That was changed long ago. Since then, the layout is basically the same as in PS: tools on the left, layers on the right, the image in the middle. The biggest difference is probably that the tools panel isn't in one column by default and takes some screen space — but it can be resized, though idk about the minimum width.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    It was made by a programmer who does not understand anything about how professional imaging people use software. It would be like an artist to somehow manages to cobble together some kind of crudely functional IDE, but he's never programmed in his life and he doesn't even know what programming really is.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago

    Freecad is NOT like gimp. They are not hell bent o forcing people to do things their way. They constantly evolve, and pay real attention to what the community wants. They are one of FOSS' example of how things should be. I really like it and how it's evolving.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    I use FreeCAD professionally. Since their 1.0 release its honestly better software. And feature parity with Fusion 360.

    The issue I have with FreeCAD is that there is a massive learning curve to it, due to the accuracy the software needs.

    As updates come out the software is getting better at lowering the requirement, but honestly it’s the best CAD software I’ve been able to get my hands on.

    Gino on the other hand feels like it’s designed for image manipulation than image creation. Still use it if I need to touch up a photo. But Affinity and Photoshop does a much better job

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  • [–] 18 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    I've been using GIMP for 15 years and it's a great tool for image editing. It doesn't have the cool AI functions that Photoshop had even before generative AI became a thing, but for most common and advanced image editing needs, it's a perfectly suitable tool.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    AI or not GIMP is garbage. Basically every new normie opens it up, sees the interface and nopes out back into Photoshop

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    To be fair, I've never used Photoshop. I've started using GIMP as an edgy teenager in 2010 to create the 4chan memes your parents laughed at back then. I'd probably think different about GIMP if I ever had the sweet taste of Adobe, but since I didn't, I don't know what I'm missing.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Actually most people don't pay for or pirate Photoshop and most people need at least light photo editing

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  • [–] -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    In that case, user nopes out and goes back to Paint

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Been using GIMP since it got too hard to find an updated cracked warez zip file of Photoshop from Limewire.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I prefer photopea. Completely browser based and ready for anything quick. Haven't tried anything in depth with it though.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago

    Photopea is really good. It pretty much has all the tools i ever need as someone who had a passion for graphics design/photo editing in their youth but never went pro. It gets shit done for some simple stuff i want to slap together now and then.

    But some stuff gets laggy really fast. Like worse than PS CS2 on my Pentium 4 shitbox 20 years ago. I wish we could have Photopea without browser technology in an appimage/flatpak or whatever. It would be perfect.

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