"Splendid boobs" is how the lyrics go

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[–] 32 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)
  • [–] 34 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I thought verse two was: “Play ball!”

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    No, it's "Gentleman, start your engines!!"

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    True americans know that it's...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBYdJjcoo4A

    The most patrioticly american moment ever on television.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I heard that we were able to identify spies because of this. Apparently they were taught the full anthem whereas Americans do not recite the full one. It's funny to imagine these spies thinking they're absolutely killing it and the Americans looking at each other like "we gotta get rid of them, huh".

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Same. I have never in my life heard anything after "O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave"

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    If you think about it, it ends in a question.

    O say, does that Star-Spangled Banner yet wave,
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    Second stanza answers it.

    On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep
    Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes
    What is that which the breeze o’er the towering steep
    As it fitfully blows half conceals, half discloses?
    Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
    In full glory reflected now shines on the stream,
    ‘Tis the Star-Spangled Banner, O long may it wave,
    O’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave

    The fuck?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    This verse is referring to the british, not menial laborers or chattel slaves. "Hirelings" was (is?) an insulting term to describe a mercenary, and the implication is that they are either brigands who are only in it for a pittance wage, rubes who do it because of a loyalty to the monarchy and/or impressed soldiers of the british (a practice with many parallels to chattel slavery, for what that's worth). A modern version might call them "sheep" with a similar implication.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Well, except Britain promised freedom to slaves that fought for their cause, so I still assume it means slaves in the literal sense.

    Kinda fucked the US didn’t do the same given the whole fight for freedom bit…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_Revolutionary_War

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    The song was written about the war of 1812, not the revolutionary war.

    As the wikipedia article points out, during the revolutionary war most of the black Patriots were recruited from the north already as free men of color and were at the time lionized for their actions (albeit in predictably racist terms) - and abolition would take over the north quite quickly afterwards (most having some form of abolition well before 1800). The first continental congress also banned the import of slaves in 1774 (though abolitionists cheered it at the time and rightly so, it should be said that this was primairly a method of applying economic pressure to the british), and would set up the civil war by doing so.

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  • [–] 88 points 3 weeks ago (36 children)

    I am much disappoint. Looking it up, I find that Brazil has four songs: the national anthem, the anthem of the republic, the flag anthem, and the anthem of independence. None of them mention boobs, and one of them does mention blood.

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  • [–] [S] 35 points 3 weeks ago (34 children)
  • [–] 47 points 3 weeks ago (33 children)

    That's not boobs. Every translation that I found had it as "bosom" in English, referring to the chest area. I mean, maybe some people have liberty in their tiddies, but that seems unusual.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/portuguese-english/seio has breast as the first translation.

    Also, even in English, "bosom" is generally taken to be the polite way to say breast 99% of the time even if it /can/ mean the chest area. I think you're just being contrarian.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    They're not contrarian, bosom can refer to breasts but that's not the only definition. I'm pretty sure it's not even the primary definition for the majority of the word's existence.

    I don't really want to link a bible site but take your pick and search for the word. 50+ references and it rarely meant boobs. It meant...the area of hugging. How could a man put his hands between his tits? Cradling a child is holding it in your bosom. A baby doesn't suck milk from bosoms.

    Bosom meant the chest area even if it generally only used to mean breasts nowadays.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    'bosom' is unisex tho, men have chests too, but not boobies

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    And the second is heart, which is much more fitting in the context.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    The translation is wrong. I don't know where that anthem comes but in french, sein means core. In its "sein" means at its core, deeply rooted

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (5 children)

    "Seio" in Portuguese means "breast" and is used to refer to boobs.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yes, seio can mean breast in Portuguese, but that's clearly not what it means in this context. It's being used figuratively to mean "within" or "at the heart of", just like sein in French.

    A word having multiple meanings doesn't make them interchangeable. Translating seio as "boobs" here is simply a mistranslation, regardless of whether it makes a funny joke.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    Sein also means breast in french

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I have never heard the word bosom refer to anything but boobs. Its like a polite term for titties.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (3 children)

    It's used quite often to mean chest. It's a fill in for saying "breast", which is usually meaning "inside one's chest, near to their heart".

    There's a quote attributed to Albert Einstein though I found no source to which is "Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools", which shows this application.

    Shakespear also has Isabella say in Measure for Measure, act 2 scene 2 "Go to your bosom: knock there, and ask your heart what it doth know.", which seems most accurately to be describing the chest more vaguely.

    I think that these two show how 'in [one's] bosom' often poetically means 'near [one's] heart", or 'close to [one's] chest'. The chest isn't the point of sentence, it's more a reference point for describing the actual subject location.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah it seems like it began meaning chest, became a polite way of saying boobs, and eventually the latter edged out the former. Mind you this is in English and the line in question is Portuguese so maybe arguing English semantics isn't helping us get close to the truth.

    If anyone here speaks Portuguese I'd love to hear if that word has any of these implications in Portuguese.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The only blood in the Australian national anthem is the blood dripping from my ears after listening to it

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

    The Austrian anthem doesn't mention blood anywhere. It mentions "heart", as in "in the heart of Europe"

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

    Yep, unless they count Austrias "secret anthem" by Reinhardt Fendrich - I am from Austria, which references blood.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Oh, you mean they knew the real anthem? ;) The one people actually know the lyrics to.

    I always find it funny when the far right voters are singing it whole hartedly.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I really do not like austropop (outside of the EAV, courtesy of my childhood), but even i know those lyrics by heart.

    And yes, it is very funny - it's similar to republicans thinking Rage against the Machine became woke lol

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    i don't think they are aware of that

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

    But it's the only way that the word "blood" might be connected to the austrian anthem at all. Only the word "Heart" appears, as in "heart of Europe". They probably asked an LLM.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    far from wildest shit it can pull.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Yeah, if you ask often enough LLMs probably accuse Austrians of cannibalism and institutionally enforced incest.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    well, i once convinced Claude that Claude Shannon don't exist. everything is possible.

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    that's just cruel. where i can get more?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3jCuITwcE is what i am watching right now lol Kitboga is a good source in general for this stuff.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)
  • I think more boobs would be good in most national anthems

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Does this imply that some anthems ironically mention boobs?

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    The US National Anthem is the only one in the whole world that mentions bombs.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    The only one that explicitly mentions them, yep. It's a recounting of the british attack on a US fort during the war of 1812, which was attacked by, among other things, british bomb ships (mortar carriers). The actual bombs being referenced would be called shells in the modern era. Interestingly many others refer to guns and cannons and incoming fire and etc. as well; China's makes explicit reference to being shelled (tho as I have had it explained, it's also a bit of quite clever wordplay: 冒着敌人的炮火,前进 can mean both "withstand their (physical) guns/cannons" and "stand up in the face of their (metaphorical) aggression")

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    USA USA USA! But for real, we started the war, yes, but we had reasonable cassus belli (embargoing our trade with france and kidnapping our seamen into the british navy) and the poem is about a defensive battle.

    I still think our national anthem should be a secularized version of the battle hymn of the republic.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Which is weird, since it was written in 1814, and I can't think of any bombs that burst in the air back then other than fireworks. Were they shooting fireworks in a battle?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago

    good thing there's no new Zealand

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Welsh national anthem mentions blood

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Where does the Star Spangled Banner mention blood?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    3rd stanza. In school I think we never went beyond the first stanza.

    Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution

    metal asf

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Neither the Austrian nor the German national anthem mention blood?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    They both at mention a heart which... might be why they were included? But I think this map may just be AI or recaptioned from something else because thats a bit of a stretch to call blood.

    edit: USA, China & mexico both overtly mention blood though... Maybe it really is the heart thing? Though if that were true then Canada should be on there too. Idkwtf

    edit 2: and the Brazilian anthem is disappointing given the way it's brought up in the OP; it's not a crass use of it like "boob" but very much akin to "my heart beat in my breast" or "nurtured by your bosom". By that metric a ton of other countries also feature tiddy anthems.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Australia is the only anthem who mentions how girt we are

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago*

    Doubt, unless mention of battle is sufficient to make the list

    EDIT: I was wrong. Here’s one of the verses that are not usually sung:

    “And where is that band who so vauntingly swore

    ⁠That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion, A home and a country should leave us no more?

    ⁠Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.

    No refuge could save the hireling and slave, From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:

    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,

    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.”

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Ok but this needs distinction between shedding the blood of enemies or shedding your mother's blood because you're born.

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  • Of course it does. Brazil's gonna Brazil.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    one of the iterations of Ukraine's national anthem lyrics from early 20th century had blood mentioned in the context of dark past history of wars and occupation and how our people persist in spite of everything. that bit wasn't in the original poem and its musical adaptation which was about glorious past and wishful bright future. then there was late 20th iteration that replaced that bit with a bloody battle going from the river San to river Don. San and Don rivers were previously mentioned as abstract furthest points of slavic people agglomeration. That version also mentions river Dnipro in a different part and calls it Granpa Dnipro.

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