And this is how I learned there were 4 verses to the star spangled banner https://www.lyricsondemand.com/n/nationalanthemlyrics/usanationalanthemlyrics.html
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I am much disappoint. Looking it up, I find that Brazil has four songs: the national anthem, the anthem of the republic, the flag anthem, and the anthem of independence. None of them mention boobs, and one of them does mention blood.
You mean my unsourced internet meme was misleading, uninformed, or otherwise inaccurate? The idea of it! Next you'll tell me not to form an opinion on headlines alone!
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_National_Anthem#Lyrics
Em teu seio, ó liberdade
That's not boobs. Every translation that I found had it as "bosom" in English, referring to the chest area. I mean, maybe some people have liberty in their tiddies, but that seems unusual.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/portuguese-english/seio has breast as the first translation.
Also, even in English, "bosom" is generally taken to be the polite way to say breast 99% of the time even if it /can/ mean the chest area. I think you're just being contrarian.
because the common use of it nowadays means "breasts", the lyrics were written over a hundred years ago, that does not mean that that was the most common usage at the time or the intended one
They're not contrarian, bosom can refer to breasts but that's not the only definition. I'm pretty sure it's not even the primary definition for the majority of the word's existence.
I don't really want to link a bible site but take your pick and search for the word. 50+ references and it rarely meant boobs. It meant...the area of hugging. How could a man put his hands between his tits? Cradling a child is holding it in your bosom. A baby doesn't suck milk from bosoms.
Bosom meant the chest area even if it generally only used to mean breasts nowadays.
'bosom' is unisex tho, men have chests too, but not boobies
And the second is heart, which is much more fitting in the context.
You might read it that way, but it doesn't make the other reading wrong the way that user SwingingTheLamp was suggesting.
The translation is wrong. I don't know where that anthem comes but in french, sein means core. In its "sein" means at its core, deeply rooted
"Seio" in Portuguese means "breast" and is used to refer to boobs.
Yes, seio can mean breast in Portuguese, but that's clearly not what it means in this context. It's being used figuratively to mean "within" or "at the heart of", just like sein in French.
A word having multiple meanings doesn't make them interchangeable. Translating seio as "boobs" here is simply a mistranslation, regardless of whether it makes a funny joke.
Like chicken breast?
Sein also means breast in french
I won't take that rage bait
I have never heard the word bosom refer to anything but boobs. Its like a polite term for titties.
It's used quite often to mean chest. It's a fill in for saying "breast", which is usually meaning "inside one's chest, near to their heart".
There's a quote attributed to Albert Einstein though I found no source to which is "Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools", which shows this application.
Shakespear also has Isabella say in Measure for Measure, act 2 scene 2 "Go to your bosom: knock there, and ask your heart what it doth know.", which seems most accurately to be describing the chest more vaguely.
I think that these two show how 'in [one's] bosom' often poetically means 'near [one's] heart", or 'close to [one's] chest'. The chest isn't the point of sentence, it's more a reference point for describing the actual subject location.
Yeah it seems like it began meaning chest, became a polite way of saying boobs, and eventually the latter edged out the former. Mind you this is in English and the line in question is Portuguese so maybe arguing English semantics isn't helping us get close to the truth.
If anyone here speaks Portuguese I'd love to hear if that word has any of these implications in Portuguese.
Freedom is a feminine word in Portuguese. We sing about being in freedom's tit. Stop twisting our anthem.
Right, but then the joke doesn't work :/
The only blood in the Australian national anthem is the blood dripping from my ears after listening to it
The Austrian anthem doesn't mention blood anywhere. It mentions "heart", as in "in the heart of Europe"
Yep, unless they count Austrias "secret anthem" by Reinhardt Fendrich - I am from Austria, which references blood.
Oh, you mean they knew the real anthem? ;) The one people actually know the lyrics to.
I always find it funny when the far right voters are singing it whole hartedly.
i don't think they are aware of that
But it's the only way that the word "blood" might be connected to the austrian anthem at all. Only the word "Heart" appears, as in "heart of Europe". They probably asked an LLM.
far from wildest shit it can pull.
Yeah, if you ask often enough LLMs probably accuse Austrians of cannibalism and institutionally enforced incest.
well, i once convinced Claude that Claude Shannon don't exist. everything is possible.
Breaking LLMs is seriously fun btw lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhi6JU5pOJk
that's just cruel. where i can get more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3jCuITwcE is what i am watching right now lol Kitboga is a good source in general for this stuff.
With "this stuff" i meant messing with scammers in general, which i find even more amusing - LLMs all break the same way pretty fast, it gets old soon.
The myth of how the flag came to be mentions it I suppose ... the red parts are blood, the white was covered and so not bloodied.
Does this imply that some anthems ironically mention boobs?
The US National Anthem is the only one in the whole world that mentions bombs.
The only one that explicitly mentions them, yep. It's a recounting of the british attack on a US fort during the war of 1812, which was attacked by, among other things, british bomb ships (mortar carriers). The actual bombs being referenced would be called shells in the modern era. Interestingly many others refer to guns and cannons and incoming fire and etc. as well; China's makes explicit reference to being shelled (tho as I have had it explained, it's also a bit of quite clever wordplay: 冒着敌人的炮火,前进 can mean both "withstand their (physical) guns/cannons" and "stand up in the face of their (metaphorical) aggression")
USA USA USA! But for real, we started the war, yes, but we had reasonable cassus belli (embargoing our trade with france and kidnapping our seamen into the british navy) and the poem is about a defensive battle.
I still think our national anthem should be a secularized version of the battle hymn of the republic.
Which is weird, since it was written in 1814, and I can't think of any bombs that burst in the air back then other than fireworks. Were they shooting fireworks in a battle?
The British Navy fired mortars — whose projectiles can explode midair — from bomb ships to bombard Fort McHenry, along with using Congreve rockets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baltimore
Lobbing fused rounds has been a thing as long as we’ve been lobbing things that explode.
Welsh national anthem mentions blood
Where does the Star Spangled Banner mention blood?
3rd stanza. In school I think we never went beyond the first stanza.
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution
metal asf
Do the other verses count if nobody knows them?
Neither the Austrian nor the German national anthem mention blood?
They both at mention a heart which... might be why they were included? But I think this map may just be AI or recaptioned from something else because thats a bit of a stretch to call blood.
edit: USA, China & mexico both overtly mention blood though... Maybe it really is the heart thing? Though if that were true then Canada should be on there too. Idkwtf
edit 2: and the Brazilian anthem is disappointing given the way it's brought up in the OP; it's not a crass use of it like "boob" but very much akin to "my heart beat in my breast" or "nurtured by your bosom". By that metric a ton of other countries also feature tiddy anthems.
If thats a question, yes, germany does not use the first two verses of the national anthem any more. The nazis made those uncomfortable.
I think they do in the secret stanzas where they list all the types of sausages
Doubt, unless mention of battle is sufficient to make the list
EDIT: I was wrong. Here’s one of the verses that are not usually sung:
“And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion, A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave, From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.”
Ok but this needs distinction between shedding the blood of enemies or shedding your mother's blood because you're born.
one of the iterations of Ukraine's national anthem lyrics from early 20th century had blood mentioned in the context of dark past history of wars and occupation and how our people persist in spite of everything. that bit wasn't in the original poem and its musical adaptation which was about glorious past and wishful bright future. then there was late 20th iteration that replaced that bit with a bloody battle going from the river San to river Don. San and Don rivers were previously mentioned as abstract furthest points of slavic people agglomeration. That version also mentions river Dnipro in a different part and calls it Granpa Dnipro.
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