It's actually a strength, but Be honest, You likely have no empathy for these retards the same as they have none for you. The true empathy comes through to all kinds despite your perception of them as cruelty you project back to them.

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[–] 59 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Never really understood the whole conservative thing until I found my guardian in college going off at the freeloaders and leeches of society in a car trip back to their house. They just don't see people outside of their clan as humans, and it's very disappointing to hear as a bushy tailed freshman at the time.

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    Somebody who is responsible for a kid. It's a broader term than parent that includes people who have a different relationship but are ultimately raising the kid, like aunts/uncles, grandparents, foster parents, or anyone else who might be responsible for the kid.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't like strawman arguments even when I agree with them, because they're cringe and silly.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago

    Pretty hypocritical to talk about having empathy and then turn around and fling an ableist slur at people you dislike.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago

    You likely have no empathy for these r...

    Not true. I completely understand how they are the way they are, and I feel horrible for them. It's a terrible existence to hate all the time and be brainwashed and manipulated.

    But ultimately you can't help people who don't want to be helped, so you spend your time helping those who do.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You likely have no empathy for these retards

    Ah, okay, OP doesn't care about the mentally disabled.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Ah yes, tell me more about true empathy, person who thinks ableist slurs are okay if they're used on the right people.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I'd understand a "it's ok to not tolerate these intolerant people", but it's not helping to use another vulnerable group as an insult.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Not tolerating doesn't mean not feeling empathy. "Yeah, I'm sad you had a shitty upbringing or decided to join this group so you had a sense of belonging, but I still can't condone you calling for harm to others."

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  • [–] 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Conservatism, boiled down to its core belief, to its very heart, is simply the belief that a certain small group (usually white, afluent, monocultural, with highly homogeneous backgrounds) has the right to inflict violence on everyone else.

    'no they just want to go back to how things were and they're slow to adapt'

    Buddy. Friend. Pal. Mate. Companion. They're literally still fuming about the French Revolution and the Paris Commune challenging the divine authority of kings. They want to make it so you don't have any power and they have all of it.

    No seriously. It's Edmund Burke and his whole shtick. Everything else is just dress-up really. Caring about the rights of women and everything just to pit one group against the next. They'll play the political game but really it's just they're yearning to return to hunting people for sport as the nobles they take themselves for.

    Also, it's so fucking easy to not be ableist and yet here you are doing it anyway, OP. Shameful really.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago

    Kids: "So you care about us?"

    Conservatives: "Shut up you little kid, you have the duty to take care of your parents even if they're awful to you, and to learn a lot in school!"

    Young adults: "So we can get college degrees?"

    Conservatives: "No you stupid idiot, even if you graduate with top grades, you have to go to learn trades instead, our donors have finally automated the job of intellectuals!"

    Workers: "So you're pro-worker? Will the AI mean less work for us?"

    Conservatives: "No you lazy idiot, you will have to work like in China's 996 system, all while we gut the remaining job security under you!"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago*

    It's almost as if their entire ideology is inconsistent and based around hate of another group. I wonder if that makes them easy to manipulate? (Rhetorical)

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago

    I work with a bunch of people who think this way. The even crazier thing is that half of them are also Mormon and the other half is Mexican.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago

    So you don't see mental disabilities as shameful?

    Wrong! Fuck retards!

    That's OP

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Feels kind of like the Goomba fallacy. But sure, there are definitely people like this holding similar opinions, however it is usually more nuanced than how it is presented here.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I have autistic hyper empathy and physically feel it, I can empathize with them, but I hate them.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago

    Slurs fucking suuuck!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    America, FUCK YEAH!

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago

    IT IS NOT THE CONSERVATIVES, it is the OLIGARCHY MEDIA, they are after all of us, the CONSERVATIVES are just DUMBER, protect your fellow conservative.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago

    The world is more nuanced than this post makes it seem.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    None of these fights would exist despite Democrats, and yet. . .

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    [–] 111 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Perfectly outlines the divide and conquer strategy.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    And how they don't care about consistency; they only say what they think will win the exact argument they're having at the moment.

    Their only consistent belief is that they should be in charge.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    "Guns don't kill people, people kill people! Don't do gun control, it's all because of mental illness!"

    "Okay, let's do something about mental illness."

    "No!"

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago*

    Black Panthers: Okay, we'll arm ourselves to protect our neighborhood from racist cops/the KKK/etc.

    Conservatives: No! You're terrorists who should be extrajudicially executed!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    They consistently dont care about others. And they destroy the society they take a hold in by pretending marginalized people are the Problem.

    They are very consistent. The consistency is just basically evil.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Sure, but that's all in service of power. That's my point.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    But that is the top down analysis.

    Not very useful in understanding the cult members, only useful for understanding the cult.

    However i would argue we know extensively how that works, but not necessirily what Happens in the cult member.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    No it isn't only a top-down analysis.

    The dipshits on the bottom only care about having power over other people. The people at the top know that if they give the reactionaries one rung from the bottom shit on someone lower than them then they'll be a reliable base. The people in government don't care one bit about gay marriage, trans rights, Christian supremacy (well, most of them don't), abortion, etc. They throw that out as red meat to their voters so that it reinforces the hierarchy. It's always been this way. Look at the southern white population before the US civil war: most of them were not slaves owners, but the social hierarchy favored them over the black population so they were content to have pseudo-aristocrats dominating the political space.

    Like I said: conservatives only care about power, and their preferred tool is a rigid social hierarchy.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago

    A lot of homeless people can't work. But, for those who can, it's hard to find a job when you haven't been able to shower for a week, have no money to purchase nice clothing for interviews (let alone no where to keep these nice clothes), and don't have an address which is often needed to secure either a job or benefits.

    I have been homeless this year, and was lucky enough to get into a housing program. But my finances are still fucked, and I can't work because of serious mental and physical disabilities. It's a trap that is so difficult to get out of, and I'm very worried that I'll be homeless again in a few years.

    Imagine the toll this takes on a person, then add that this population is hated, derided, and repeatedly victimized by both the general population and the government/police. Imagine struggling with mental issues, and having all that you've managed to collect stolen from you every other week. Imagine having physical disabilities and being unable to run away from assaults. Imagine all of the above with the additional burdens of being a woman, a POC, and/or LGBTQ+.

    Now think about how rough the job market is for people who have stable housing, and who meet the qualifications of a job, and for those who wouldn't be a "DEI" hire in the age of "anti-woke".

    Empathy isn't a weakness, it literally only means that you understand someone else's plot in life. Being able to understand situations like or unlike your own is a strength, and it's necessary to promote societal change. And that is exactly why conservatives hate it

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    Empathy is the greatest sign of strength.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    It's almost like conservatives are truly, deeply evil and building concentration camps to kill vulnerable people is completely on-brand for them.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Through this rhetoric they also conveniently make people forget about homeless refugees, immigrant women, lesbians, and the mukhannathun.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago*

    Conservatives: "Why do none of you damn snowflakes care about ME?!!"

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    true but also maybe a little goomba fallacy

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago

    TBF (should we be fair to them? They aren't fair to us) this is a patchwork, not a single conversation, but all individual statements could've come from just one person.

    The point is - at least that's how I see it - all social posturing from fascists is just that. They don't care about other people, or people as a whole. What they really want is perfectly divided in and out groups, with them being in the in group. Freedoms and advantages that only apply to them and repression that only applies to the out group.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Trying to have a conversation with someone who thinks words are a competition. Trying to shake hands with someone who tries to arm wrestle you.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think you would struggle to find a conservative that hates Muslim people because of what someone did in Orlando or hates gay people because they are pedophiles. They hate them because they were told to by right wing media, that's it. Pretending there's some logic behind it is pure fantasy.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Except that the ones who have at least two brain cells present their hate under the color of reason, and this is what the rest of them parrot.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    Except that the ones who have at least two brain cells present

    Yes, and there are dozens of them. Dozens!

    But seriously, I'm yet to see a right-wing influencer that pretends to reason. It's all racist dog whistles because their viewers would not understand anything else.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    So everyone knows who’s downvoting this:

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago

    I had a recent train of thought like this not long ago when Talarico affirmed MAGA talking points about trans athletes in women's sports.

    The number of trans athletes active in the US is about ten. The number of sports injuries involving trans athletes is less than that.

    Bit this raises a question about the safety of women's sports, or all sports, for that matter. Injuries are ubiquitous in sports, all cis-on-cis, with exceptions fewer than a rounding error.

    And then that raises the concern of full-contact gridiron football, which is a TBI machine from varsity, through college, to professional. If we're worried about sports injuries, do we stop caring when it might cut into billionaire profits?

    I'm still sore with Talarico about it, but I'm not in Texas.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Why so true.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Libs still not giving a fuck about muslims.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago*

    Your identity as Muslim does not affect whether I give a fuck about you. I want everyone to have life, health, dignity, and personhood. I don't care what their religion is.

    And sure, I disagree with some Muslims who are authoritarian, or violent, or misogynistic. I also disagree with Christians who are authoritarian, or violent, or misogynistic. It's the authoritarianism, the violence, and the misogyny that I take issue with.

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  • It's hard to be a rapist, murderer, pillager, colonizer society and have a heart and humanity. It's one or the other, basically, but being a monster (and influencing the cattle to become predators) can be very profitable!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    To preface, I agree 100%

    But a paragraph of text strawmen isn't really a meme :/

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    ... dude... look around... there is no such thing as a meme. Everyone is just doing what ever.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    If memes are a spook, why have politicalmemes comm?

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Sigh. What is a meme then? Please define it.

    Wait, I’ll do it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_meme

    It’s a common misconception that a meme needs to include an image or be funny. It doesn’t.

    Edit: I will also add this - criticizing people for posting content on Lemmy is shitty. We don’t have enough content. If you don’t like what I post, just move on. Or go post your own stuff.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    This isn't an academic paper, congrats for meeting the letter of the definition while ignoring the spirit. You really should put the barest amount of effort into a joke of some kind, do you think we're all here to read a paragraph of screed? Posting better, not just posting more, makes Lemmy a better place.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Then go post better instead of wasting your time being a dick.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Wait it ended to soon. Does that mean they like jobs?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Are you confusing Islam (the religion) with Muslims (the people who believe in Islam)? Really giving you the benefit of the doubt here.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I'm in part conflating them, but not entirely. Read well.

    And I addressed it: I know not all Muslims are bad, but most of them are bad nevertheless.

    That's because that religion has lot of dogmas that are hateful and damaging, and they have to follow them to be "true Muslims". Only a few of them are as valiant as to refuse to follow them, but then they have to do mental pirouettes so they can save their core beliefs, they live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance.

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    [–] 15 points 1 month ago*

    So you care about workers?

    No fuck off with that socialist shit

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Almost like conservatives are selfish sadists.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    You forgot bullying control freaks, which propagates the species, IMHO. Bullies tend to be overcompensating for fears by causing others to feel fear. Those fears cause paranoia which leads to irrational "thinking" by short-circuiting & overriding rational thought processes. A significant aspect of that paranoia is the fear of being bullied even more, causing the aforementioned overcompensation. Voila - self-propagation achieved.

    Works great in families where children are inducted into the process so early & often that they know no other way of being and have no clue that's what's driving them.

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