Hopefully it's contained, because if we get another pandemic conservatives are going to do everything in their power to make it kill as many people as possible.
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Wikipedia is already referencing articles saying it's a pathogen related to the Black Death.
And for people worried about it, the World Health Organization (WHO) says that "today it can be easily treated with antibiotics and the use of standard preventative measures."
Assuming of course, to be pessimistic, it hasn't been weaponized. Siberian Anti-Plague Research facility doesn't fill me with confidence, and you'd expect the hospital to have tried antibiotics, granted they may have been too late or used the wrong ones.
My 'favourite' fact about Soviet-era bioweapons is that they had a facility on an island in the Aral Sea. Said sea vanished from existence after the Kremlin redirected all the rivers which fed it in an effort to grow cotton in the desert, causing it to shrink to some 10% or less of its original volume. As well as destroying the livelihoods of the fishermen of Aralsk in Kazakhstan, it also made the island full of fucking anthrax among other things part of the mainland.
I'll say this for the Soviets, they didn't do environmental disasters by halves. Also as a Briton we had our own anthrax island in Scotland from the war that was only decontaminated in the '90s.
Someone else wrote it's a strain that specializes in colonizing the lungs and has to be treated within 24 hours or septicimia. Also that front line antibiotics might not work on it but others will.
No idea if true but people on reddit said it had to be treated within 24 hours of symptom onset.
A ton of people would easily try to wait it out and be too late to get meds.
Why is this comment buried here? It's literally the solution! Do people love the thrill of panicking? Internet, you so silly sometimes...
renowned current health guidance has a high likelihood of failing to apply to new genetically-modified variants
(if that is the case)
Chat how easy it is to brew an antibiotic resistant strain of plague considered we created some resistant diseases fully by accident?
I'm guessing they made an extra feisty version. Otherwise, break out the antibiotics, no need for death or massive quarantine..
And for people worried about it, the World Health Organization (WHO) says that "today it can be easily treated with antibiotics and the use of standard preventative measures."
Not if it is developed by Russians to be antibiotic resistant.
Why would they have a lab working on it if it was easily treatable by antibiotic? Why the worker died anyway and they introduced a quarantine?
Anti-Plague Research Institute
I bet I know what this mystery virus is
It’s like bills with titles that say the opposite of what they achieve.
The articles says it's not a virus:
Darya Shipilova, an employee at the Anti-Plague Research Institute in Shelekhov, was exposed to the bacteria after she accidentally broke a test tube containing the pathogen while she was collecting samples, the Kyiv Independent reported.
Why does it say virus in the title?
It's said to be yersina pestis there, the black death, but an airborne strain that causes septicimia within a day if not treated.
I would imagine that is from gain of function research they've been doing.
For all folks concerned of massive epidemic:
- The people who contacted her after the incident are isolated, the hospital quarantined
- Yes, there is a vaccine. People are not commonly vaccinated because plague is very rare nowadays, but they can be as needed.
- It can be cured by antibiotics. Care needs to be prompt though, and that's what Daria very recklessly missed. Fatal mistake for someone who oopsied in a pathogen lab.
Also, to those concerned that this is a biological weapon lab:
- This would be the most stupid and inefficient biological weapon. Again, we have the vaccine AND the cure.
- Disease research institutes are a normal thing throughout the world. We need them to efficiently combat outbreaks should they ever reappear.
I am pinning my hopes on a random Lemmy commentor.
I hate this timeline.
Yeah, people seem to think the plague is extinct? There are yearly cases of plague in nearby Mongolia for example. It's also not usually as easy to spread compared to viruses like influensa. It's still a scary thing to think about, but nothing for us to worry about really...
Strange for someone working with that specific pathogen to not be innoculated prophylactically.
looking at how people react in regards of vaccines, masks, and medical misinformation, I think even a common cold can be a successful bio-weapon
This would be the most stupid and inefficient biological weapon. Again, we have the vaccine AND the cure.
Erm, Actually. It's obvious they're still researching the Suppression and Sympto-Statis gene tech so they can sneak the plague into other countries without panic.
You casuals wouldn't understand. 😏 /s
I mean unless they are somehow trying to develop an antibiotic and vaccine resistant strain of the plague? If it were the case then it is almost 100% a bioweapon research at best under the guise of bioweapon security. But I don't know if this person is a bioweapon researcher or a public health researcher.
I mean unless they are somehow trying to develop an antibiotic and vaccine resistant strain of the plague?
That would be unwise as you'd ideally want to have an antibiotic available for your own troops in a war. We also pretty much know about all of Russia's bioweapon work after the cold war ended, there's even an Anthrax island site they abandoned.
Fortunately bio weapon research is even more niche today than it was at the height of cold war tensions and all nations have cut back and destroyed big chunks of their stockpiles.
Also keep in mind that things like leprosy still occur in the USA (Florida is even seeing a small increase in cases) so it's not necessarily that uncommon or a cause for concern. Things like the plague, leprosy and even strep throat (known as scarlet fever back when it regularly killed kids and routinely caused deafness in survivors) and easier to cure/treat thanks to modern medicine. The hygienic practices we have these days also help keep these things from breaking out like they used to.
my fear is dumber than that, people just wont wanna take the vaccine and antibiotic and there will be this weird disease loving faction that does great damage to the greater society.
Yes it is much cheaper and easier to convince people to not use vaccines and other proven medical interventions than it would be to create a novel virus. Look at the idiotic life threatening things people are willing to do to follow a TicToc trend or Insta. Not to mention all the idiocy they will follow due to AI. Those are the 'deadly viruses' people should be fearing.
Maybe they're making a potent cross-species variant by weaponising good ol' Russian boreal swamp debauchery.
oh hey look somebody wrote a book about this exact scenario recently...

Wow. What’s Putin doing, manufacturing plague to deal with Ukraine?
Always has been.
The USSR from the Stalin era onwards had world-leading biological and chemical weapons programmes, largely due to having plenty of test subjects in the gulag system.
There are very legitimate reasons to be doing research like this. Every developed nation pretty much has labs like this.
However, that isn't to say none of these are attempting to make weapons. The issue is research for a weapon like this looks pretty much identical to the good kind of research. The only way to know the difference would be getting your hands on documents saying it's for a weapon.
what kind of scientist accidently breaks open a test tube containing plague
I've lost count of the glassware I've broken. Now none of them were plague cultures, but I wouldn't get less clumsy just because they were.
Also this sort of thing becomes more likely when we're overworked and tired. So if you don't want another plague, it might be a good idea to make sure your local scientists have reasonable workloads.
There are a lot of labs who work on all kinds of diseases. They keep them in test tubes sometimes. Accidents happen. The big issue is there should be protocols that prevent that accident from spreading, which there apparently weren't in this case. This could be for a ton of reasons, like the person not following protocol, or issues caused by a lack of funding due to the war. I don't think we can really speculate on why this happened, just that it did, and the fact that they were doing this work isn't that strange.
T-Virus time?
I look forward to conservatives fighting for their right to get bitten by zombies.
So if Putin calls it the Anti-Plague Research Institute we can be pretty sure they're actively creating plagues right?
Anyone who wants something extra to feel anxious about should read the hot zone by Richard Preston. It's about Ebola, not plague, but it's. . . alarming. Ebola is a virus, not a bacteria like plague, but the difficulty of containment even in secure labs, and the possibilities of mutation - as far as I know, they're not dissimilar. Especially if a government lab has been fucking around trying to weaponise it, as I suspect happened here.
I will never understand the thought behind weaponizing diseases. They kill indiscriminately, even you, the developer or the president who orders it's release. Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.
I think the idea is to develop a vaccine or cure along with the disease so you can deploy that selectively.
Doesn't make the idea any better though.
I wish ppl understood this about nuclear weapons. Like ok so you want to attack that country over there.... what do you think 60 seconds to midnight means exactly?
Really any weapons. Start a war is literally fucking around and finding out. It all comes with blow back.
Everyone has the same choice to be assholes. It's not a super power. Just a choice.
Those who weaponize diseases don't think that far ahead. They don't care, because it hurts other people, and that's all they need to feel like they "won".
I will never understand the thought behind weaponizing diseases. They kill indiscriminately, even you, the developer or the president who orders it’s release. Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.
"fuck them" mentality is the reason.
His book The Demon in the Freezer is also really good and about small pox.






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