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Daniel Lakeland @dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

Oct 01, 2026, 11:32 PM

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[–] 176 points 1 month ago (9 children)
  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I can't understate how much I love this art

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I think you mean overstate? Otherwise you're saying that you don't really like it at all.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Yeah, overstate. But I will still leave the comment unedited

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    It's ok, we overstood you. But yeah, pmjv is a fucking genius.

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  • [–] 311 points 1 month ago (32 children)

    there’s 2 kinds of people on fedi:

    40 year olds who remember the good ol days of the interwebs

    16 year old queer shitposters who got tired of getting called every slur imaginable on other networks

    both are into linux

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I have to use Windows at work now, which is ass.

    Anyway, I had a question about how to achieve something in Powershell the other day, so I asked it on Mastodon. Got basically nothing in response.

    Every time I ask how to do something in Linux I get swamped with responses.

    Make of that what you will.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Queer less than 25 here, I came here not because I was getting called slurs but because I'm tired of companies and of AI, I'm also on Linux :3

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Where do fifty-something furries fit to this?

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  • [–] 73 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    you forgot the 3rd kind

    Russian bots

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Luckily it is typically too small to be much of a bot target. I don't subscribe to world news subs though, dark places.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    It's usually only the news subs. But if you make claims that counter Kremlin propaganda you can sometimes summon them.

    Like if I just say Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine, it won't (why? Beats me). But if I say they are killing ethnic Russian Ukrainian citizens as well as Ukrainian men, women, and children, then we have a good chance.

    I got others if it doesn't work.

    Edit: (WITNESS ME! Lol) Edit 2: Now I'm impressed. I knew I could do it, I didn't expect it to work quite so well. I'll check back in a few hours.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    "People disagreeing with me are bots"

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If they're getting paid to do it, they're just meatbots.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Why you people always gotta take everything as black and white. I use "bot" interchangeably with "shill."

    Edit: I see no one found the humor with switching the actual thing that is black and white in his statement ("Everyone I disagree with") with the "bot" and "shill" thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    "shill" implies payment, Lemmy is just way too under the radar for that kind of engagement

    And by the time you have shills the network will be drowned in LLMs already. The latter hasn't happened, it's pure paranoia to think the former is anything to be concerned with.

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  • [–] 103 points 1 month ago* (9 children)

    There are some lost kids wandering around complaining about their moms...

    I dunno how they found it into here.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The great thing about the Internet is that people can just find stuff, often by accident.

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  • [–] 98 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

    Not 40, but also don't want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization, whether that be by selling my data for profit, training an LLM with my data, or contributing to an inescapable network effect that can be increasingly monetized by various means.

    The modern social media platform is not designed to foster positive interactions, but rather to maximize shareholder value.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    also don’t want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization

    I mean, you're fooling yourself if you don't believe Lemmy has been scrapped by a thousand crawlers by now.

    I'm more paranoid about how many accounts are bots than about some data aggregator getting my dumbshit hot takes as training data.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I mean, you're fooling yourself if you don't believe Lemmy has been scrapped by a thousand crawlers by now.

    That's why we're here. To fu k with the scrapers and poison the training 🙃

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Dw, the corpos are using bots to scrape and categorize your thoughts and comments anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Coming here for discussion and meme dopamine, Lemmy still has that intact. Reddit has killed it with bots, ads, and some heavy duty corporate lean on things.

    r/castiron, dominated by Lodge Corpo as one example. Other “suggestions”, too early in the day to recall more names right now, are in a parrot circle of replies for brands, as above.

    You can’t trust it as much, which is why, in part, people are here instead. More old, old Reddit feels, you know, before it became cool and was thus inevitably ruined.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    don’t want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization

    (...)

    The modern social media platform is not designed to foster positive interactions, but rather to maximize shareholder value.

    This is so much more important than whatever elitism OOP implies.

    I'm also not 40 btw.

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  • [–] 84 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Fuck that. I don't regret it. We built the world wide web from nothing for everyone and had it fucking stolen by rich assholes who put our community resources WE developed behind ads and paywalls. Unlike those uncreative hacks we have the talent to take it back.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    /fistclench

    We exist without skin color,
    without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
    You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us
    and try to make us believe it's for our own good,
    
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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    The WWW was built for everyone.

    We let rich assholes steal it out of laziness.

    Take for example, Facebook vs MySpace or similar. Making a Facebook is instant, making a MySpace took effort. Setting up a subreddit is instant and free and gets you an immediate registered audience, setting up a vBulletin or similar forum is time-consuming and costs money and getting any traffic is an uphill battle. Same thing with posting- on Reddit just mozy on over to that sub and hit post, on a forum you have to register. Or you want to make videos? Gotta pay for a decent web hosting plan, lots of bandwidth, and deal with encoding, playback scripts, etc. Or just make a YouTube and hit 'upload'.

    So we let big platforms take over the Internet. We gained a fuckton of features and convenience. We didn't consider what we lost- creativity, and the independence of not having to make everything advertiser-friendly.

    Monetization is the other frenemy. It's great that creators can get paid for their work easily. But what we lose with that is every creator pandering to the algorithm, every video begs 'like comment and subscribe!', videos shy away from advertiser-unfriendly topics, and the kid filter brainrot is starting to infect common lexicon ('my brother got caught watching corn and now he's gonna unalive himself with a pewpew' type nonsense).

    For that reason I think decentralization and federation are the way out.

    Look at forums for example- one of the biggest barriers to entry was registration, getting people to care enough to bother registering. Lemmy fixes that, and you can still make a community as closed and private as you want.

    I'm hoping a new group of websites will spring up from this. My only fear is they will all drown in a sea of AI slop.

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  • [–] 73 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I don't regret it. I only regret letting the corporations stake their claim without greater pushback.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    The slow creep was real. Social media corporations brought the mainstream to the internet in the worst possible way, but the old internet was still alive in forums and chats and discussion groups that had been around for years.

    Reddit destroyed it. It gathered everyone into one place. It was constantly growing and pulled users from everywhere else in the internet to one place. Centralization. Then, it inevitably went corpo to the point that the greed of the ones on top destroyed the communities they gathered and exploited to put themselves in their elevated positions of wealth.

    To be clear, the people with the money don’t care at all. They cashed out and got theirs. Everything burns around their greed, no different from oil companies.

    The internet was supposed to connect everyone, share ideas, connect the world to collective knowledge, and bring us all together. Instead, it became a tool of corporatist and fascist control. Reddit ultimately ended up being the corpo that crushed and scattered the opposition.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago*

    Social media corporations brought the mainstream to the internet in the worst possible way

    Eloquently said.

    A decent chunk of local businesses don’t have a web presence besides Meta products. Meta would love to be “the internet”, they had a project in early 2010’s to give free “internet” in developing countries. The catch, the internet received was restricted to Facebook. It was called out by net neutrality advocates as being very anticompetitive and India rejected the project in 2016. Even a decade ago the zucc had been using underhanded tactics to put as many eyes on his propaganda machines.

    Why should some jackass amass as much wealth as a nation state by siphoning pennies from every other interaction on the planet?

    Link to BBC article about India rejecting free internet below.

    India blocks Zuckerberg's free net app Published

    • 8 February 2016

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35522899

    … launched in 2013 as Internet.org and was offered in 36 countries - had brought more than 19 million people online …

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    When Facebook came around, I immediately saw what it would lead to. Hell, just the thought of sharing your personal details for anyone and everyone to read was extremely creepy to me. Any time I tried to communicate this to people asking me why I wasn't on Facebook it achieved nothing. Pushback was useless, people want what they perceive as "convenience" even when they have to (almost literally) sell their souls to the machine. No, I don't think pushback would have helped, because people want these - and I shudder to call them such - services. The Internet was doomed the day it became mainstream.

    When I was young, I was called a nerd for using computers. People online were primarily nerds who cared about tech. Those days are long gone, and there was nothing that could've been done to prevent the rot. It was inevitable as the Internet became more popular.

    The masses will always be asses. They don't care. They will eat corporate slop and ask for seconds until their bloated corpses burst. The best we can do is create alternative infrastructures and wait with horror as they start to rot too.

    Jesus, I think I'm having a bit of a blue day.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 month ago* (11 children)

    Come now, at least half of Mastodon/*key users are genderqueer twentysomethings who are mind-bogglingly good with computers.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    But yet still have no idea how they work beneath the GUI. 😉

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