I always assumed that she was living in a trailer in the desert to get away from people, and just dug the isolated vibe of it... It didn't seem like it was awful or nuthin. Maybe trailers are nicer in the future lol

Well DS9 did the whole "section 31 exists this shit is a violation we do not do this" and nu!trek explicitly keeps going to that well as protagonists so yeah, there's a big difference there

All of them still felt more optimistic than nu Trek. And purely stylistically they were filmed in a very different way that felt comforting whereas these new shows want to be as grimdark as possible

I think it all comes down to capitalists own the star trek franchise and post-scarcity is a scenario that really challenges the core ideas of capitalism, especially when they show this advanced utopia, even if it was a bit frayed at the edges and some had a hard time relating to the idea that the crew of the various Enterprises were pretty much all doing it as a hobby rather than a job (albeit with military-level organization).

The Orville is the best Nu-Trek.

I feel this so much.

It was great when there was the occasional oddball episode, but the main focus was on the story.

But this last season has been absolutely nothing except weird comedy episodes, every single week.

Made SNW go from one of my most-liked Trek outings to among the worst.

Perhaps I should rewatch Season 1 to recover.

I haven't seen it, I don't watch TV anymore, but did I hear they've done for real everything SG-1 did in the episode 200 as a shitpost?

I haven't seen any of the latest episodes, what does this mean? How can a show like this become "shit posting"?

You seem way too mad about this. Like, somehow this is personal, and we aren't clued in lol.

when the day was saved with a joke of repeatedly kicking the first officer in the balls.

As opposed to pushing a rock on him?

Though to be fair, higher resolutions have made what used to be decent props into shitty looking ones, so the bar is higher these days, too.

The old guard of Hollywood were a bunch of people who had absolutely no problem with saying people that act like Nazis are bad. Those people are gone or nearing retirement/irrelevant. Also, writing is now done by committee so it never has any over-arching narrative, it's just a bunch of different writers trying to be noticed instead of creating a good plot.

I blame the Battlestar Galactica reboot. That was insanely successful while being dark and moody, so networks in the coming decades kept trying to chase that kind of success in their own shows by making them dark and moody as well. Game of Thrones seems like someone decided to take a LOTR-like medieval world and give it the tone of Battlestar Galactica.

What about anime? They're gotten goofier and brighter in my opinion. Popular stuff used to be Inuyasha, Fullmetal Alchemist. Then you had Death Note, Bleach, Naruto. These are all on a scale of pretty moody with tads or dapples of sunshine and goof.

Now there's animes like "I was turned into a hedgehog and my girlfriend isn't sure how to respond!" It's wayy fucking goofier and brighter.

What happened was people knew the world wasn't good guys and bad guys, it became clear that morality was grey and for good reason.

Exactly, there's so much great Star Trek content to watch. No point in wasting time on something like Picard.

I started watching this and after a few (enjoyable) minutes I noticed the top comment notes, "For the first hour I've been waiting to disagree with her but just couldn't.." and then I looked at the runtime..

Holy moly.

Critique in length that rivals the Lefttube greats, I'll save this one 'later'.

I liked season 1 personally. Holy hell did it start off with a ton of potential. I did not like season 2 at all. Season 3... Meh, I gave it a shot but wasn't vibing after the first episode.

I'll now watch this near 4 hour video to confirm my suspicion on season 3 being shit as well. I don't care if it's better rated than S1 on IMDb. I'll pretend only S1 exists, because I don't feel like watching S2 again which my brain would require me to do before watching S3.

That sentence used to be a lot longer, but it all does boil down to stupidity.

I heard a theory on the Adam Conover show recently that said product people--that is people that understands products and their customers--no longer run companies. Instead, we have finance people that know how to talk to investors and see their products as conglomeration of characteristics, maximized for mass appeal, and see their customers as numbers on a spreadsheet.

I find this a very compelling theory and you can see it across all forms of media--from movie, to TV, to games. The root cause of this problem has been unstated, but I see it as somehow a result of wealth inequality and concentration of power. Bad decisions can continually be made because competition is limited, at the same time, being "in" with powerful people is career insulation from constant failure.

What draws you to Star Trek in general?

People watch shows for different reasons.

season 3 was far the weakest one, 1 was pretty bad. 2nd couldve had a good setup with the friendly borg. the nostalgic arc is so poorly written.

They talk like they 'like' it in the same sense that an abuse victim 'likes' a week in which they're only abused a little instead of a lot. The approval comes from comparison to the rest of new Trek. They also liked it better than the TNG films, which I dunno if I'd say that.

I didn't like Picard, but I don't agree with this meme. I found season three to be the most digestible of the three servings of slop.

Lt. Angela Collier's savage YouTube takedown, Season 3 time stamp

And the thing is, they're both just fine in moderation. But the first two seasons of SNW were so good and the last two have been almost all comedy gimmicks. I was happy to see a badmiral episode this season instead of "Star Trek but [gimmick]." And it was a pretty by-the-numbers badmiral episode.

And Disco and Picard were continuing storylines, so if they decided to have a long stupid trudge through the mirror universe, the audience that didn't leave were stuck with it for a whole season.

I love both of these!

You're right, after I posted I remembered Picard telling Q he was "sick of his bullshit". Didn't realise there was much more. But "Shit" seems less offensive than "Fuck", so maybe that still counts as toning down the swearing, even if there was more of it? 🤷

Silly language critiquing aside, I do remember season 1 feeling much gloomier than the subsequent ones.

But the kids are a-teeming with WOKE! We must save them with imagined grit and toughness of soft Hollywood cowboys! Johwn Whayneeee!