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Picard writers doubling down on criticism (quokk.au)
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Panel 1: Person labeled "TREK FANS" shouting "STOP MAKING STAR TREK DARK AND MOODY!" Panel 2: Person labeled "PICARD WRITERS" saying " You know what? I'm going to make season three even darker and moodier."
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[–] 52 points 1 month ago (8 children)

To be fair, the post-scarcity utopia was most present in TNG. TOS was more focused on the cosmic horror encountered in deeps space, and far less idealistic. DS9 really dove into how much that utopia would comprise when faced with an existential threat, while ENT tried to show how a flawed society would strive reach that utopia.

The difference is that everything after TNG was responding to that utopia, either by affirming it or challenging it, while New Trek just...forgot it was a thing. I remember watching season 1 of Picard, and Raffi is living in trailer in the desert because Admiral Picard ruined her career and thinking, "Wait, why are you poor? You guys don't even use money anymore."

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I always assumed that she was living in a trailer in the desert to get away from people, and just dug the isolated vibe of it... It didn't seem like it was awful or nuthin. Maybe trailers are nicer in the future lol

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago

    Well, she also says something to the extent of, "we don't all have a family vineyard to live on." The implication definitely seemed to be that PIcard was a, "have," and she was a, "have-not," which seemed very antithetical to the universe established in Old Trek.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Well DS9 did the whole "section 31 exists this shit is a violation we do not do this" and nu!trek explicitly keeps going to that well as protagonists so yeah, there's a big difference there

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    All of them still felt more optimistic than nu Trek. And purely stylistically they were filmed in a very different way that felt comforting whereas these new shows want to be as grimdark as possible

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, their was far too much spent on style and too little on substance. Everything is highly cinematic, and they clearly spent tens of millions of dollars per episode, so they feel they have to make, "epic," stories that reflect that scale. The thing is, that's never what made Trek great. Chain of Command said more about war with a cheap set and four spotlights than all of season one of Discovery said on a $100 million budget.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I think it all comes down to capitalists own the star trek franchise and post-scarcity is a scenario that really challenges the core ideas of capitalism, especially when they show this advanced utopia, even if it was a bit frayed at the edges and some had a hard time relating to the idea that the crew of the various Enterprises were pretty much all doing it as a hobby rather than a job (albeit with military-level organization).

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