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[–] 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That movie is fucked. Highly recommend.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Valve should go with the Rolex model instead. You can't buy the sexy Steam Frame that's reserved for valuable consumers unless you've bought a Steam Deck, Steam Controller and Steam Machine beforehand.

    /s

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Hey, but something similar to that would actually work best.

    They have data to see that someone has bought Valve hardware and used it in the past. It would stop most scalping, obviously impossible to stop it completely, but that would feel more fair than a lottery that a scalper could win anyway.

    Any accounts that bought a Valve Index and then never even used it would be immediately blacklisted and accounts that did use it would be eligible to purchase the Frame. People would be angry that certain accounts got benefits then instead of scalping, so you can literally never win when selling highly-anticipated, low volume products

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    That would certainly reduce the kind of scalpers who do that like it's their job, running bots and everything to buy as much stock as possible, which is indeed the worst kind of scalper to try to compete against. But some scalpers are more just... "opportunistic scalpers" or whatever. The genuine Valve customer who has no interest in VR, but understands that if they make one $1000 investment quickly enough, they can turn around and resell the item for $2000. There are enough of those customers that the lottery makes sense.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Yes, that's why you cannot ever stop scalping. However I believe there's enough data for Valve to prioritise real customers, the first batches could be quietly sent that way.

    I also don't think scalping is that big of an issue here, the lottery system is mainly to stop the first come, first serve FOMO and panic, rather than scalper protection. It's just blown out of proportion because the products are in high demand and low stock, so people wanna point fingers somewhere. There's never that many listings for scalped products versus how many are actually sold.

    Valve's words about the lottery:

    The longer timeframe also allows us to do some extra validation on the signups to make sure they're real accounts, with only one per household.

    Hopefully they are taking more into account than we think.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Honest hardworking scalpers

    You lost me.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    I don't generally buy anything that would require a lottery. How do they work? Wouldn't it be pretty trivial to just swap IPs and accounts like 60 times for 60 accounts?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    I believe the account needs to be over a certain age plus have at least one previous purchase.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Only 1.5 hours left to go!!!! 🚀

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    [–] 35 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Obsession 2025... you know... for science

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 1 month ago*

    Nikki Frowning or Obsession "How Your Girlfriend Looks At You" refers to a series of memes, including X / Twitter posts, using a reaction image of the character Nikki (played by actress Inde Navarrette) from the 2026 horror film Obsession frowning under a variation of the phrasal template "How your girlfriend looks at you when you X," "X" being framed as a reasonable request that the girlfriend does not want to go through with.

    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nikki-frowning-obsession-how-your-girlfriend-looks-at-you

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    That film was weird. It's like the director decided half-way through, "actually this is too cringe for me, I'm just gonna have fun with it" and then proceeded to wrap things up in a deeply unsatisfying way. I still think about this film.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's like a 9/10 movie at least, and it's supposed to be unsatisfying or at least unresolved, but I'd argue nothing is too cringe for Curry Barker. Look up their YouTube channel "that's a bad idea" if you want to see just how wacky they are.

    I love movies that end like that and ones that go off the rails in the last act, leaving you wondering what you just watched.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Hey the ending had to be as it was to remind you that it was NOT a documentary about your worst ex.

    Well, maybe just me. There was tons of similarity in behaviour patterns until things went completely off the rails. 'cept mine wasn't bound by a wish, but rather the desire to have complete control over me. Honestly think Nikki was less problematic in that regard, she at least had no choice.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    FYI read the small print: they'll remove entries with the same address, so if you live with other people don't all join the queue or you'll silently disqualify yourselves.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    I'm so fucking glad I didn't update my address after moving recently so my wife and I don't have the same address.

    I'm asking every friend that doesn't want one to line for me. I still think the demand will outpace supply so much it won't even matter.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    How do you do that, I don't see an address anywhere on my account. Is it if you have added a payment method to the account?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    The one for the payment method and shipping (steam link, deck and controllers over there years)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    So if I've never purchased a physical item then presumably they'll apply the filter on purchase attempt too. If you try to place an order for a frame and another one was placed with the same shipping address then they'll probably reject it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Not sure were you're going with this, this address will receive at most one, so wheter they do that or not won't affect me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I was mostly asking for myself. I used to live with someone who is also joining the queue and trying to figure out if there's anything I need to do if I want to avoid a false positive for the "one household" test. It sounds like there is nothing I need to do. I asked you originally since you had an address to update while I didn't.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Sorry, I was a bit defensive. I misunderstood your intention.

    I don't know how they will do with the addresses, but maybe there are post offices or such were you could collect it?

    Good luck tomorrow :)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    No problem, it wasnt super clear. Both of us live at different addresses now so it shoudn't be a problem at the purchasing end, but I might do the post office thing so it's not just sitting outside for anyone to take while I'm at work.

    Good luck to you too

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I was considering the same strategy, but I don’t know how it would work having a device that was bought on another account. I’m sure the other person would have to pay from their own account, and that they could still ship to a different address, but what about support later on? Or what about the accessory kits that are only available for Frame owners, like the ergonomic kit or the upcoming enthusiast kit? Still trying to figure out if it’s worth it to ask friends to join me in the lottery.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    They will pay with their card and put my shipping address. It's only one, I don't want more, so likely no issue. Even of we ship to their address... I'll just walk there?

    The accessories are bought together with the frame, and the device is not DRM locked. I don't think valve will prosecute us, when we buy only one and our accounts are 18+ years old.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 month ago (24 children)

    That's me too and I'm not even a scalper. :(

    I feel like they should have at least required a deposit so people don't sing up when they don't really plan to buy it.

    With extremely limited supply anyone that doesn't get Frame now, will probably have to pay an even higher price whenever stock is back...

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  • [–] [S] 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    With extremely limited supply anyone that doesn’t get Frame now, will probably have to pay an even higher price whenever stock is back…

    I remember when tech used to depreciate in price with age.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, I signed up for a slot, but I had a thought that I'd just wait and get it cheaper later. Then I realized that's not really how things work anymore somehow, and I could probably buy now and resell it higher later, even used, because none of this makes any sense.

    This is, of course, assuming the current status quo continues. With the recent "AI needs to be restrained" comments from AI execs, it might crash soon and things go back to being sane.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago* (19 children)

    It's a somewhat solved problem already

    Glastonbury festival has made you register your name, address and a mugshot for about a decade or so now

    It gets printed on the ticket.

    If you don't look like the person on the ticket and don't have the ID of the person named, you're not getting in

    Kinda invasive, but it's basically killed touting

    Not quite sure how you do this with hardware, perhaps tying it to the device?

    Maybe you need to own the device for a year or two before you're allowed to use it with another account

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    I would rather let a few people scalp some devices then give up ownership over the devices I buy. I would not want valve to have a remote way to brick something I have bought.

    The fact you need an account in good standing and it's limited to one per address helps a lot in cutting down on the number of devices that can be scalped. It is basically just a few individuals that can do that and not a few people systematically buying up all the stock at once to resell.

    I would rather them focus on upping the supply then preventing every single scalper.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (15 children)

    It being limited to one person address is a problem when you have a family though. Only single people are allowed to own this thing I guess. Can't have gamer roommates.

    I get it but it'll be years before I can buy this thing or the stream machine mostly likely and it's for a variety of reasons. My husband actually put in for the lottery for the steam machine and didn't get picked.

    I have no idea how their system handles a second attempt with a different account but the same address but I'm not sure I want to find out even though I would like to buy one.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    When it is hard enough for 1 person in a household to even get one steam hardware to share I'm fine with the one address limit. A household having multiple devices is a luxury when it is hard enough getting even one.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

    I don't think you understand what I am saying here. One person in the household signed up and didn't get picked. They do not specify or clarify what happens if the other person in the household signs up. Does it risk one or both of the accounts?

    Roommates can't have two systems and should share?! Did you read what I actually said or are you just ignoring half of it because you don't like the idea that this is not a cut and dry thing.

    I didn't even say I don't understand the limit. Scalpers suck. I just said I wasn't going to gamble with my steam account over it. I have bought steam hardware before. I've owned both the steam link and the original controller. I had one of their Alienware steam machines back in the day.

    This is a system that hurts prospective buyers who want the product because scalpers are doing the wrong thing and it sucks to be essentially treated as a person trying to take advantage of the system when you haven't done anything wrong.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Who said anything about roommates not being allowed to have two systems?

    Just making the point that when it is hard to even get one system for them to share it makes sense why until shortages are resolved why they'd limit it to one per household.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    You made the suppositions about units per household. I framed it as roommates because you didn't think through what you were saying.

    It doesn't matter if it's roommates, spouses or any other permutation of people living in the same house. They shouldn't necessarily be expected to share a PC just because someone else is doing something wrong.

    I get why Valve did it. I fully remember during the pandemic trying to buy a console and not being able to because of scalpers. But that doesn't negate any of what I said.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    Roomates or family are members of a household. One unit per address. I don't see why relations would matter.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    I've had many a roommate in my life. I've never shared a computer with a roommate. Family computer with my family? Yeah. Roommate. No. Roommates are essentially two completely autonomous people who happen to live together. That's the distinction.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Why would a company care about the distinction. All they care about is limiting it by household.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    This is a person making this distinction for a company in order to justify why they think this is fair.

    I never said the company thought it was fair. It's pretty obvious that the company is fine with penalizing their customers/treating them like scalpers in order to prevent what they consider anti-social behavior.

    That doesn't mean we can't be irritated about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Its either one address limitation or none at all, since a company isn't going to make exceptions based on whether someone is related or not and verify it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    Arguing an emotion based opinion of a policy to someone pointing out the flaws in the policy isn't going to win you this argument.

    I understand that you feel that this is a non-issue, and perhaps for you it is. But that doesn't mean that it is a fair policy across the board. It just means that you have justified the policy to yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yes it is a problem. But a temporary one that IMO is worth the tradeoff. You might not get multiple devices up front but that means other people can have a device at all. Why should you get 3-5 devices and stop 3-5 other people from having one at all? You can share a single device for several months while the initial wave die down and stock is able to be replenished. Then they will remove the restrictions and you can get multiple devices. In the meantime it means more people can get a device and helps to stop scalpers from getting them all. It is a tradeoff, ideally it would be better if there was enough devices for everyone that wants one to get one. But you can only scale production up so fast.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I think you misunderstood what I'm saying here, somehow still. Once you put in once and do not get something and do not get picked, there is no avenue to put in a second time without possibly getting that account flagged. You run the risk of losing an account in good standing over this. That's the first problem.

    The second problem is, why is it that someone who happens to live in the same house as anyone else is less important and should have less of a chance to get it than someone else? That's why the roommate thing is an important distinction.

    Just because you live alone or with other people who are not interested in the product, that means your chance of getting it trumps someone else who lives in a different living arrangement and lives with someone else who also wants one?

    That's bad logic predicated not on factual information but on an emotional response to the scalper problem and I'm not here for it.

    It does not change anything because either way, two different people want a product and could potentially get a product except the way the lottery is set up, there's a chance of penalizing someone who's not doing anything wrong and invalidating their chance. Simply because of where they happen to live.

    And your argument is that this is okay because the other people who have the chance don't live together. That's not a criteria that should determine who's chance is more worthy. Logically that's just emotional nonsense dressed up as ok.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Can you change your address to a parent or friend's house who won't be buying it? Maybe that's too risky as well

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    My billing address doesn't change so that's unlikely to work. I have to assume having it shipped somewhere else wouldn't make a difference in the long run because the billing address on the account is what they go by.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    As per supply, unfortunately all the ai companies have bought all of next year's ram

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    They have not.

    They have provided an IOU from the bank of "trust me bro, this shit's gonna moon" same as everyone else in that circlejerk of stockmarket destruction.

    and the other side has said :
    "sure bro, we'll set you aside a 100 million future rams" *wink*

    while announcing this big "sale" they have completed to boost their stock price.

    It's fucking monopoly money to them and it's going fuck everybody

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    I got fucked on the steam cube lottery but I'll take it any day over watching the scrapers buy everything

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    The Asian official booking webpage is completely crashed...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Just don't buy it till the lottery ends, not like you need it this second.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The lottery is just for the first wave of shipments. After that, it's a reservation queue. It also requires an account that's been active for some period of time, and has made purchases (to try to cut down on scalper accounts).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Is there a source for that? I am on the list but haven't made many purchases

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Eligibility: You must be a legal resident of the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, any EU Member State, or Australia, at least 18 years old, and the registered account holder of an unlimited Steam account who has made one purchase prior to April 27, 2026.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0AC8-A264-CC02-14F0

    If selected, you will be notified via email using the email address associated with your qualifying Steam account on or about September 17, 2026 that you have been added to the reservation queue. As units become available, people in the reservation queue will receive an email with the option to purchase. We'll send the first batch of those starting Friday, September 18, 2026. Those emails will include a link for purchasing the Product (“Link”). The Link will expire 72 hours after it is sent by Valve. If you do not buy the Product by the expiration date, your opportunity will also expire. If you are not selected, you will receive an email letting you know that you’ve been added to the waitlist and we'll let you know when more units become available.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I mean, ok I guess.

    But have you considered how much better a world could be created by making scalping a capital offense?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I expect they'll just script/automate some way to get 1000 entries for every legitimate one. Then again, I'm not familiar with what the entry requirements are. Unless the entry requirements are more than the potential profit, you're still going to see scalping.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    No worries, scalpers can still get their way on the Asian region website. There's no lottery. They released it this morning, and within the hour, all units were sold. I think there was a limit of how many per head you could get, but still, no biggie for scalpers. I managed out of sheer luck to get mine, but definitely a lottery might have been better.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Hope I get the golden ticket.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Not Steam, but does anyone else remember the music artist that got pissed at scalpers and just kept selling tickets and adding shows at a venue until the scalpers gave up?

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I’m not a scalper and I hate this lottery system. My friend signed up for steam machine and still hasn’t received his email.

    I have purchased every valve hardware since the first controller. Never had a problem just clicking add to cart and buying. Same shit when Covid hit and 3090s were just released. Got one direct from Nvidia no problem.

    Now with this lottery crap I might never get my reservation due to RNG. I rather just be first in line on the purchase day.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 month ago

    I rather just be first in line on the purchase day.

    That's just it. The scalpers have bots that can both do this faster than you and at scale. The idea of being "first in line" is simply not realistic anymore. The lottery ensures some semblance of fairness for a limited supply brought on by the AI tech bros buying up production capacity for the next two years (or more).

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    I like it because free for all never worked for me and I experienced the worst of it trying to get a gpu during the crypto craze and everyone using bots and alerts to try to snipe something that would go out of stock in seconds.

    EVGA game in clutch and did queue system and I got my card for msrp. And I liked it when Valve did it for the Steam Deck.

    Hated when Steam Controller did a free for all and ended up wasting couple of hours clicking and coming up empty handed. They went to queue and I finally got one after a few months.

    I'd rather wait and if it takes a year or longer so be it, but a free for all approach is one I know I'll have zero chance at compared to the lotto.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    There it is, folks. The ramblings of a selfish person who doesn't understand that this system is in place to help them. Ignorant as hell.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    I managed to grab my steam controller on the 4th when it dropped and it got… well I’m not great with time but I think I got it in July.

    But anyways I lucked out and when I heard of the machine (and assumed frame) would have the reservation queue INITIALLY I was disliked it. I was thinking even with bots people could grab it, then I saw the amount of scalp listings

    And then thinking about it, the window allows people not to plan around the date, I was lucky with the controller that I could use my college WiFi in the middle of lecture. But people at work or otherwise unable to fight in the refreshing gauntlet, or me on frame day sleeping through the announcement by 15 minutes.

    Like I’m a little sore because… well idk why… but I think the benifits greatly outweigh the cons compared to the gauntlet of clicks

    This kinda turned into a ramble I’m sure there’s an idea in here somewhere

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Wait, you got your steam controller? I reserved my steam controller back in May and I just now checked and it says I'll get it in 2027 lmao

    Edit: :(

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I believe in your waiting ability

    It’s very nice, basically the decks extra functionality on a gamepad. Gut feeling tells me once the initial wave of frames are out the back order of controllers will get going (my source is it came to me in a dream delusion)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It’s very nice, basically the decks extra functionality on a gamepad.

    That's all I could ever ask or hope for, and now you have me hyped about it even more lol but thank you for believing in my patience!

    Don't worry I will hopefully get the purchase email much sooner than 2027 (damn oh wait, that also came to me in a dream/delusion 😢)

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