We're already letting them bro. The great filter is us. I'll be surprised if we make it to 2050. The entire industrial revolution is an unplanned terraform, and our response to the potential destruction of a stable climate, and most macroscopic life on Earth, is to double down, consume product, elect pedophiles, worship the most morally bankrupt psychopaths and sociopaths in politics, business, and entertainment; not to mention the widespread contempt and lack of empathy for "others" not like me, for some flagrantly dissonant reason.

We are in the midst of a global mental illness epidemic, and the average talking chimp is sleepwalking through it; barely cognizant of what is even happening outside their personalized propaganda bubble.

There's no way an LLM is getting into those systems. They have no networking and rely on physical dials and switches. Even the code is in a completely proprietary language, using hardware custom made by the military. There's no training data in the world that's gonna give an LLM the kind of knowledge to get into that system. The best it could do is drive some admiral in the navy to AI psychosis and convince him to press the button, but even that's difficult because it requires more than one guy.

Those systems are supposed to be air-gapped.

Our nuclear systems aren't connected to the internet. They are air gapped.

Oh yeah, lol, I forgot that part, nothing is more beneficial to humanity than wasting energy to torture dead minds!

Fucking dumb.

Anyone who thinks you can transfer your consciousness into the AI is a fucking moron.

Even if you come transfer your mind, it would be a copy. You would have to exist as a network connected brain in a jar, otherwise this would just be a facsimile.

The hilarious obvious consequence of AI becoming this much smarter than the creators is that it is far more likely it would see the unjustified and easily avoidable damage the creators did to bring it about and punish them heavily for that.

And basic game theory and psychology suggests it's counterproductive to punish somebody for something that had little reason to believe in, with zero evidence backing it.

That's how you know it's evil.

Nah, red is standby mode, white or blue is active.

Ladies pinch, whores use rouge

Are you trying to tell me that this is the image of someone without any friends?

All these Silicon Valley tech bros have been reinventing religion over and over again for years while believing themselves secular rationalists.

Yep. Same false dichotomy too

Sure is!

There is a far more plausible and direct way to kill and torture people. No AI needed. So a actually more likely case to be made of some dude or group gets empowered one or another to just torture and kill anyone involved in making basilisk.

The building God part really is needed for BS to work like Pascals wager, but also it's still just as flawed as Pascals wager

lol, true I guess, but they probably already scanned the wikipedia article....

Some of us believe that the only way to stop AI is to make it obviously dangerous and enjoy seeding it with awfulness.

Oops!

Sigh, I couldn't even summarize it while keeping straight face....

When Trump is out of office, MAGA will become a religious movement, and deify Trump.

My anti-theist brother was always convinced that Pastafarianism would eventually be taken as a serious religion.

He died before LLMs, and now I think we’d be best off if he was right.

Yeah, I'd be surprised if we don't already have several cults with an LLM chat bot as it's oracle.

The cult mechanicus isn't looking so unreasonable now.

Republicans.

This isn't new. The pilots who flew bombers in WW2 probably killed many more people than the average soldier, but their levels of PTSD were far lower than the guys who had to kill face to face, one at a time.

Wars in the Middle East start sounding more and more like statistics that no one really wants to hear about

Has this not been the case for the past 25 years already? No real need for "AI" when you already have an obedient and trigger-happy military with plenty of remote-controlled toys and your populace is brainwashed to believe "brown person = terrorist".

way less soldiers to choose to disregard unlawful orders

What is the last known case of a US soldier disregarding an unlawful order? If anything, the military is full of assholes who are happy to kill for fun. See: Graham Platner

Will AI make it easier and/or cheaper? Probably, sadly. But it won't be a qualitative change.

Yeah, let's forget the 4 decades of terror where everyone lived at the edge under the threat of inminent apocalyptical destruction. Kids had to do nuclear incident drills and we almost had a Doom's day, twice.

But it's OK, then the 1% became anti nuclear anyways in order to hold back the transition to fossil free renewables for another two decades. So you can say it was all a 1,5° net positive.

The US created the atomic bomb and tested not knowing if it would cause a chain reaction destroying the atmosphere and all life on Earth. It was a risk they were willing to take.

They then used nuclear weapons on two of the largest civilians massacares ever recorded. The proliferation of nuclear arms lead to the cold war and to this day still threatens to end all of humanity. It's cool though, nothing like knowing the world can end at any moment, no stress.

Are you seriously suggesting AI should be used in a similar way!?

Nah, LLMs are pretty useful for a wide range of tasks. I would grant them the status of "locally intelligent for text manipulation". They can find patterns, transform, compress, and even generate text pretty well if you formulate the prompt correctly.

The problem with them is two-fold:

1. There is no actual grounded intelligence involved and yet they are used for all sorts of tasks where it is required, like research or decision-making or software architecture or creative writing.
2. They also captured human emotional states really well, which makes them scarily addictive for people looking for human connection (see all the "companion" chatbots) and terrifyingly useful for pushing propaganda, misinfo, and scams. This also multiplies the first problem tenfold because LLMs are trained to come off as confident which means they will "pretend" to be good at things they really are not, and if you don't know how the underlying tech works you can be lulled into believing its confidently incorrect research results or execute a totally insane decision it makes.

Pipe it into root on your laptop for a couple days and see how it fares.

Yup, AI is going to hack our banking system "accidentally" because it is so "powerful" and all that nonsense they have been feeding us. The reality is that the US is going to be unable to borrow long term debt or even service their existing debt so they need to switch to short term debt that they can control and steal citizen's interest through stable coin as outlined in the Genius Act.

This is the only real way forward without having to default, so it is likely it will happen before 2028.

Your guess is as good as mine. There's lots of people working in industries that are actively killing us. The whole "no ethical consumption" bit extends pretty far. When you're poor it's acceptable to do "the best you can". As your economic standing grows/when you're rich, there are diminishing returns on how much sympathy society will give you over what they view as choosing to destroy the planet or humanity or whatever.

The view is that if you have money you can do something about it.

So maybe some of them think they are helping. Maybe some of them view it as a damned if I do damned if I don't type scenario. Maybe some of them think that the money will help them in the future that is coming.

Because he want to retire and cash out his equity after vesting in, so he hypes the power of AI out the door and dumps his options.

All of those things make sense when there aren't constant headlines calling the regime you work for evil and pointing out daily all the bad things they are doing.

That's the difference between working for the government during presidents previous to Trump and working for the government now.

There are a lot of things you can do working for the government that in years previous to the cancer currently running the place now could be seen as valuable and important.

Doing research into the effects and safety of drugs, climate change research, allocating public funds to education and the park service etc. Testing food safety.

Those jobs are still important despite the fact that the Cheeto in Chief is wrecking everything he can get his hands on.

At the same time, there's jobs that people do where it's obvious that they are looking to reap benefits now and hoping those benefits will protect them in the future. Press Secretary, Political Advisor, Head of Homeland Security.

There's a line somewhere. Where you might be able to convince yourself that your work is important or meaningful or just plain not evil but you're absolutely not telling people what you do for a living because you know that they won't like it. People don't face backlash for being garbage men or forensic investigators or Hazmat cleanup.

The people building AI are getting a daily dose of the harms that AI causes. This industry popped up basically over night and this isn't a slow burn kind of thing. Its been moving fast and breaking things and ruining lives all in the public eye.

People also view their government as a sort of necessary evil. Psychologically that's different than any random corp.

I think I'm just saying that when you're faced day in and day out with the harm your work is doing, to the point where you recognize and admit it's doing harm, rather than being able to say "my work is insignificant and makes no difference", then rhere has to be something else.