Makes sense, Quad9 is really good!
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Don't forget everyone, your money might end up in far right Swedish parties.
Once my current subscription expires, I will never buy their vpn and switch to another provider.
Proton has been alright for me so far. However, at this rate, I'm just waiting for something similar to happen with them too. Crossing my fingers.
Didn't their CEO or some similar executive openly praise Trump when he came back into office?
More like Trump's pick for office but since then Proton wised up and put the CEO on mute lol
Uggghhhhh, thanks for the info though
Shouldn't be surprised, to be a CEO you gotta have a screw loose for the job
/s
/but-not-really-tho
I've been recommending Mullvad DNS for its adblock functionality. Quad9 does not provide this.
I am now seeking recommendations for an equivalent I can recommend to friends and family for use on devices that do not easily support system-wide adblocking.
You can go with the default Adguard DNS configuration https://adguard-dns.io/en/public-dns.html
Hosting your own DNS resolver is quite simple. Suggest trying PiHole.
Yes, I'll tell my mother to host a PiHole.
Of course bringing it with her would require something to tether it to other than the phone she's actually using as a phone (I think), and a way to power it all. She's going to need a bigger purse.
Or she could access it remotely. I doubt her residential DSL comes with a static IP, so she's going to have to get a domain name and set up dynamic DNS... oh, and route the appropriate port to her Pi through the ISP's NAT router, assuming it actually supports that. Maybe she should buy the latest fancy one from GL.iNet with those big antennas and OpenWRT.
I think I might send her that AdGuard link instead.
dnsforge.de
Works great on my phone. Thinking of enabling it on my desktop, too, but I'm not too bothered there, using uBlock Origin. 👍
AdGuard maintains a list of DNS providers; there are several with ad blocking.
Yes, quad9 has DNS adblock

Doesn't matter, when my subscription expires I will be moving on to a non-nazi-loving VPN provider
Likewise. Bought a three-month sub so's that I wouldn't have to top it up too often, and then they came out with all that shit. Subscription expires in two days - forever. Hello, iVPN.
I use Quad9 where I can, but admittedly also have some reliability issues. Their local PoP will drop all requests for a couple minutes at least a few times a week. It's a shame since it's the closest/best recursive resolver otherwise. CloudFlare is similarly close, but they don't support EDNS, so I've had problems because of that.
Funny, I've been having a lot of problems with Mullvad DNS so I just switched to Quad9.
Any alternatives that have ad/malware/tracker blocking features for mobile? I switched back to ControlD after hearing this, but they do not have mobile profiles for their DNS.
It’s a shame one of the founders funds Nazis now, I won’t be renewing
I've just seen this.
Do you know any good alternatives?
I moved to AirVPN after Mullvad shut down port forwarding and haven't had any issues. It's run by privacy activists.
iVPN is the the best alternative if you want something as powerful as Mullvad. It's a bit slower though
ProtonVPN if you can stomach one CEO once praised trumps choice of some anti euh oligopol(?) lawyer.
If you already use Proton Mail, I strongly recommend against using ProtonVPN because you're coupling yourself too hard to Proton. At least, if your threat model is high risk
What if I just torrent shit occasionally? Am I good? I like proton’s services a lot for the convenience which is a no no on here but I am a lazy fuck.
If you just use VPNs to torrent stuff, then that's fine. I'm just saying that if your threat model makes you a target to let's just say the CCP for example, then coupling Proton's suite with their VPN is a bad idea
If I'm going to move away from mullvard because a high up funds populists I'd rather avoid that too.
We all fund Nazis if we live in modern 1st world nations. It's time to start blaming ourselves...
You are not wrong, but the comment you wrote this to is literally about trying actively not to.
Sure, but there's a difference between existing in society and actively going out of your way to fund projects that are made by hyper-racists (like the omarchy guy)
No no, the whole "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing means that there's no moral difference between my tax money funding ICE and directly donating to hateful people. They're both bad, and there's no possible way to measure how one thing could be worse than another.
You might be right but it is such a defeatist way to look at it. Maybe 30%-50% goes to taxes and you ha e no control over that. You also need food, a home, and depending where you live a car, so that limits your options. But the rest you have full control over. You can choose not to buy a Tesla, not to subscribe to Mullvad, not to donate to Omarchy. And with the money you save you can buy another car from a brand whose CEO didn't literally make the Nazi gesture on live TV, subscribe to a VPN that's not donating to a Nazi party, either directly or through a founder, and instead of investing time and money in a distro founded by a racist, you could use another distro.
It's only impossible if you say it is. I'm also boycotting US as much as possible due to Greenland and the EU tariffs. It's even harder because of how connected the economies are, but I still go out of my way to buy Danish soda instead of Pepsi or Coca-Cola, Italian toothpaste instead of Colgate, etc.
You might be right
I was being sarcastic. I really thought the second sentence would be enough to give it away.
Funny how someone can be just a normal right wing or even center-right and you dumb bitches call everyone a Nazi that doesn’t think exactly like you. Bunch of hive mind idiots lmao.
Anyone that’s considers themselves right wing with the current fascist in power deserves it. If you look at what’s happening now and say “i guess it’s fine I’m still right wing” then yeah the moniker holds.
Don’t condone Nazi shit if you don’t wanna be called a Nazi.
Advocating for remigration is unquestionably far right, which the founder has done. Unless you yourself agree with it...
I'm glad i left Mullvad behind when they stopped supporting port forwarding.
Can someone catch me up, I thought people liked Mullvad... but this thread seems to suggest otherwise. What did I miss?
"societies need a great diversity of ideas, initiatives and organizations who can be tested and sifted until the best ones remain" -Mullvad.
This apparently includes nazi ideas
My understanding is one of mullvads primary owners and creators donates a significant portion of their country's far right party's annual budget. Their policies, last I checked, included things like remigration or the forced expulsion of citizens based off of arbitrary and immutable characteristics (think bloodline or skin color). They're akin to the AfD or Republicans. Theoretically a meaningful % of money spent on Mullvad goes to a person actively trying to make the world worse, like Elon Musk or JK Rowling.
So some people, including me, stopped supporting mullvad until the person is completely financially and influentially disconnected from the company.
Yeah, but what have immigrants done for us?!
Performed menial, back-breaking labor at rates well below the legal minimums? Contribute to our economy and society while being treated as absolute garbage? Seek out a better life while being spit on by those around them? Have a lower property and violent crime rate than the general public while being multiple times more likely to be a victim of a crime?
Wait, why am I supposed to hate them again?
Appreciate the explanation. What's the generally trusted/suggested VPN then?
As another user said, IVPN or airvpn were the ones that came up in my last search. I have removed proton for them having the same trump supporting tech bros problem.
IVPN, AirVPN, and Proton all fairly popular here. One of Proton's higher-ups is a Trump supporter though
There isn’t a comparable service.
If you don’t need what mullvad is selling then there are others out there but the landscape is hard to navigate if you don’t understand what you’re there for and how to choose what you give out.
The reason why I use a VPN is to protect myself from people like the co-founder of Mullvad. So you see how this can cause a conflict…
Would you be okay with your employer or business partner getting to review every political donation you made during their employ or setting restrictions on what you could spend your money on?
I can understand the conflict if the guy was like in a position where he could reveal data about users but thats nowhere close to being the case because the entire company barely keeps any data in the first place
How will you know there isn't any right wing staff at the next vpn you choose? Seems pretty short sighted.
I want my protection to be such that even if I know the enemy is actively monitoring the network they won't be able to obtain anything useful. I wouldn't want to use a service that exclusively targets people just on my side because that makes it easier to narrow down and target.
How will you know there isn't any right wing staff at the next vpn you choose? Seems pretty short sighted.
There are many nazis and fascists everywhere in society. While is not comforting, that’s how the world is and one Nazi Staff on it’s own can’t do shit. But we’re talking about a leader here with power and influence (money).
I can understand the conflict if the guy was like in a position where he could reveal data about users but thats nowhere close to being the case because the entire company barely keeps any data in the first place
But he can, I paid using my credit card. He could disclose the list of clients and payments if he is aligned with a fascist. He could one day decide to install malware on the software and by the time we find out it’s too late. I know it sounds paranoid but how can you trust a Nazi when your life is on the line?
he can, I paid using my credit card. He could disclose the list of clients and payments
So you've also learned the lesson of not paying with a credit card now right? Otherwise you are just as succeptible with the next vpn you use.
You dont take away the power to by shifting it to some other company which may or may not have less fascists. or some other fasicts (like ones working for the government now) could just as well get the info from your card issuer, or PayPal or whatever gateway you pay with.
know it sounds paranoid but how can you trust a Nazi when your life is on the line?
I don't trust them, and I am equally untrusting of the payment processors and federal government that's why I avoid paying for vpn or hosting services with anything connected to a bank account in my name. If you do that then they have nothing to expose.
You didn’t miss anything. Haters just finally got a reason to crawl out of their dirt caves
Mullvad is great for my needs. I may try proton next year, not sure.
Been using next DNS free DNS. They get overloaded sometimes but usually work fine.
Can someone tell me whats wrong with Quad9? I've never used or heard of that.
They’re fine as long as you don’t mind the illuminati providing your dns and blocklist /s (?): https://www.techmonitor.ai/technology/cybersecurity/security-alliance-launches-dns-resolver
There's nothing wrong with quad9. They're a good privacy dns that blocks phishing and malware. Adguard dns though, also blocks ads and tracking so I would recommend that as well
Ah well, unbound prepared for the toggle.
# Mullvad No-Filter DoT
forward-addr: 194.242.2.3@853#dns.mullvad.net
# AdGuard Default Ad-Blocking DoT
forward-addr: 94.140.14.14@853#dns.adguard-dns.com
#Quad9 DoT
#forward-addr: 9.9.9.9@853#dns9.quad9.net
#Quad9 no threatblocker DoT
#forward-addr: 9.9.9.10@853#dns10.quad9.net
People need to follow what they believe is necessary but I ask this: how many degrees of separation from your money is far enough to enjoy a product without having to worry about where the money is going? Eventually someone you don’t agree with will touch it.
I pay Mullvad. They pay the Founder. The Founder makes a large donation to anti-immigration parties.
Is that really enough abstraction for you?
I mean if you avoid companies where fascists directly profit from your purchases, I cannot think of a single company I would bet the house on not being one of those - so do you go hungry and thirsty or do you just steal all of your food and clothing and means of transportation?
"Yeah, I give money to the Nazi party. Do you know how long it's been since they actually killed Jews? Get over it!"
I mean, it's at least one degree of separation, right? Not giving money to Mullvad directly means Nazis have less money. So at least one.
Yeah, I mean people still drive VW and GM cars despite the respective manufacturers both benefiting from Nazi Germany during world war 2.
That is… very much a different thing in many different ways.
If people were buying them during WWII for instance, that would be a huge problem.

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