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[–] 54 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Makes sense, Quad9 is really good!

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I ain't mad at it. Especially with the dubious stuff an exec at mullvad did. Quad9 is my default anyway, but I did use the mullvad dns here and there.

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  • [–] 85 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Don't forget everyone, your money might end up in far right Swedish parties.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Once my current subscription expires, I will never buy their vpn and switch to another provider.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Proton has been alright for me so far. However, at this rate, I'm just waiting for something similar to happen with them too. Crossing my fingers.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Didn't their CEO or some similar executive openly praise Trump when he came back into office?

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I've been recommending Mullvad DNS for its adblock functionality. Quad9 does not provide this.

    I am now seeking recommendations for an equivalent I can recommend to friends and family for use on devices that do not easily support system-wide adblocking.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Hosting your own DNS resolver is quite simple. Suggest trying PiHole.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, I'll tell my mother to host a PiHole.

    Of course bringing it with her would require something to tether it to other than the phone she's actually using as a phone (I think), and a way to power it all. She's going to need a bigger purse.

    Or she could access it remotely. I doubt her residential DSL comes with a static IP, so she's going to have to get a domain name and set up dynamic DNS... oh, and route the appropriate port to her Pi through the ISP's NAT router, assuming it actually supports that. Maybe she should buy the latest fancy one from GL.iNet with those big antennas and OpenWRT.

    I think I might send her that AdGuard link instead.

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  • [–] 63 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Doesn't matter, when my subscription expires I will be moving on to a non-nazi-loving VPN provider

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    Likewise. Bought a three-month sub so's that I wouldn't have to top it up too often, and then they came out with all that shit. Subscription expires in two days - forever. Hello, iVPN.

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    [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I use Quad9 where I can, but admittedly also have some reliability issues. Their local PoP will drop all requests for a couple minutes at least a few times a week. It's a shame since it's the closest/best recursive resolver otherwise. CloudFlare is similarly close, but they don't support EDNS, so I've had problems because of that.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Funny, I've been having a lot of problems with Mullvad DNS so I just switched to Quad9.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Any alternatives that have ad/malware/tracker blocking features for mobile? I switched back to ControlD after hearing this, but they do not have mobile profiles for their DNS.

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  • [–] 116 points 2 months ago (29 children)

    It’s a shame one of the founders funds Nazis now, I won’t be renewing

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    I've just seen this.

    Do you know any good alternatives?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    ProtonVPN if you can stomach one CEO once praised trumps choice of some anti euh oligopol(?) lawyer.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If you already use Proton Mail, I strongly recommend against using ProtonVPN because you're coupling yourself too hard to Proton. At least, if your threat model is high risk

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    What if I just torrent shit occasionally? Am I good? I like proton’s services a lot for the convenience which is a no no on here but I am a lazy fuck.

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  • [+] -72 points 2 months ago* (10 children)

    We all fund Nazis if we live in modern 1st world nations. It's time to start blaming ourselves...

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  • [–] 58 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

    Sure, but there's a difference between existing in society and actively going out of your way to fund projects that are made by hyper-racists (like the omarchy guy)

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    No no, the whole "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing means that there's no moral difference between my tax money funding ICE and directly donating to hateful people. They're both bad, and there's no possible way to measure how one thing could be worse than another.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    You might be right but it is such a defeatist way to look at it. Maybe 30%-50% goes to taxes and you ha e no control over that. You also need food, a home, and depending where you live a car, so that limits your options. But the rest you have full control over. You can choose not to buy a Tesla, not to subscribe to Mullvad, not to donate to Omarchy. And with the money you save you can buy another car from a brand whose CEO didn't literally make the Nazi gesture on live TV, subscribe to a VPN that's not donating to a Nazi party, either directly or through a founder, and instead of investing time and money in a distro founded by a racist, you could use another distro.

    It's only impossible if you say it is. I'm also boycotting US as much as possible due to Greenland and the EU tariffs. It's even harder because of how connected the economies are, but I still go out of my way to buy Danish soda instead of Pepsi or Coca-Cola, Italian toothpaste instead of Colgate, etc.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    You might be right

    I was being sarcastic. I really thought the second sentence would be enough to give it away.

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  • [+] -54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Funny how someone can be just a normal right wing or even center-right and you dumb bitches call everyone a Nazi that doesn’t think exactly like you. Bunch of hive mind idiots lmao.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Anyone that’s considers themselves right wing with the current fascist in power deserves it. If you look at what’s happening now and say “i guess it’s fine I’m still right wing” then yeah the moniker holds.

    Don’t condone Nazi shit if you don’t wanna be called a Nazi.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Advocating for remigration is unquestionably far right, which the founder has done. Unless you yourself agree with it...

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    I'm glad i left Mullvad behind when they stopped supporting port forwarding.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Can someone catch me up, I thought people liked Mullvad... but this thread seems to suggest otherwise. What did I miss?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    My understanding is one of mullvads primary owners and creators donates a significant portion of their country's far right party's annual budget. Their policies, last I checked, included things like remigration or the forced expulsion of citizens based off of arbitrary and immutable characteristics (think bloodline or skin color). They're akin to the AfD or Republicans. Theoretically a meaningful % of money spent on Mullvad goes to a person actively trying to make the world worse, like Elon Musk or JK Rowling.

    So some people, including me, stopped supporting mullvad until the person is completely financially and influentially disconnected from the company.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, but what have immigrants done for us?!

    Performed menial, back-breaking labor at rates well below the legal minimums? Contribute to our economy and society while being treated as absolute garbage? Seek out a better life while being spit on by those around them? Have a lower property and violent crime rate than the general public while being multiple times more likely to be a victim of a crime?

    Wait, why am I supposed to hate them again?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Appreciate the explanation. What's the generally trusted/suggested VPN then?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    There isn’t a comparable service.

    If you don’t need what mullvad is selling then there are others out there but the landscape is hard to navigate if you don’t understand what you’re there for and how to choose what you give out.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The reason why I use a VPN is to protect myself from people like the co-founder of Mullvad. So you see how this can cause a conflict…

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Would you be okay with your employer or business partner getting to review every political donation you made during their employ or setting restrictions on what you could spend your money on?

    I can understand the conflict if the guy was like in a position where he could reveal data about users but thats nowhere close to being the case because the entire company barely keeps any data in the first place

    How will you know there isn't any right wing staff at the next vpn you choose? Seems pretty short sighted.

    I want my protection to be such that even if I know the enemy is actively monitoring the network they won't be able to obtain anything useful. I wouldn't want to use a service that exclusively targets people just on my side because that makes it easier to narrow down and target.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    How will you know there isn't any right wing staff at the next vpn you choose? Seems pretty short sighted.

    There are many nazis and fascists everywhere in society. While is not comforting, that’s how the world is and one Nazi Staff on it’s own can’t do shit. But we’re talking about a leader here with power and influence (money).

    I can understand the conflict if the guy was like in a position where he could reveal data about users but thats nowhere close to being the case because the entire company barely keeps any data in the first place

    But he can, I paid using my credit card. He could disclose the list of clients and payments if he is aligned with a fascist. He could one day decide to install malware on the software and by the time we find out it’s too late. I know it sounds paranoid but how can you trust a Nazi when your life is on the line?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago

    he can, I paid using my credit card. He could disclose the list of clients and payments

    So you've also learned the lesson of not paying with a credit card now right? Otherwise you are just as succeptible with the next vpn you use.

    You dont take away the power to by shifting it to some other company which may or may not have less fascists. or some other fasicts (like ones working for the government now) could just as well get the info from your card issuer, or PayPal or whatever gateway you pay with.

    know it sounds paranoid but how can you trust a Nazi when your life is on the line?

    I don't trust them, and I am equally untrusting of the payment processors and federal government that's why I avoid paying for vpn or hosting services with anything connected to a bank account in my name. If you do that then they have nothing to expose.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago

    Fuck Mullvad

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Been using next DNS free DNS. They get overloaded sometimes but usually work fine.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Can someone tell me whats wrong with Quad9? I've never used or heard of that.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Ah well, unbound prepared for the toggle.

    # Mullvad No-Filter DoT
    forward-addr: 194.242.2.3@853#dns.mullvad.net
    
    # AdGuard Default Ad-Blocking DoT
    forward-addr: 94.140.14.14@853#dns.adguard-dns.com
    
    #Quad9 DoT 
    #forward-addr: 9.9.9.9@853#dns9.quad9.net
    
    #Quad9 no threatblocker DoT
    #forward-addr: 9.9.9.10@853#dns10.quad9.net
    
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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    People need to follow what they believe is necessary but I ask this: how many degrees of separation from your money is far enough to enjoy a product without having to worry about where the money is going? Eventually someone you don’t agree with will touch it.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I pay Mullvad. They pay the Founder. The Founder makes a large donation to anti-immigration parties.

    Is that really enough abstraction for you?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I mean if you avoid companies where fascists directly profit from your purchases, I cannot think of a single company I would bet the house on not being one of those - so do you go hungry and thirsty or do you just steal all of your food and clothing and means of transportation?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I mean people still drive VW and GM cars despite the respective manufacturers both benefiting from Nazi Germany during world war 2.

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