And here we all are building back better on the Fediverse/Threadiverse!

Threads post: “MySpace wasn't better because we were younger.
it was better because nobody had figured out how to turn every human emotion into a fucking marketing funnel yet.”

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[–] 151 points 2 months ago (8 children)

You also navigated solely from profile to profile. There was no feed.

Scroll to the bottom of a page and that was it. No more comments, show is over.

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  • [–] 60 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Shows not over. We still have 7 more songs in the audio player that automatically plays. Most had a visual player where you could pause, rewind, seek, ect.

    A few made the player hidden, autoplay, and on repeat. Still want to hunt down those people from 20+ years ago who did this.

    Did anyone here do this?

    opens switchblade

    Anyone?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    whips out an impractically large rubber chicken in an equally threatening manner

    Yeah, whatcha goin' do bout it?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Oh, that chicken is looking at me funny. It's gotta die now. I gotta strangle it!

    What the hell??? Did you put lube all over this rubber chicken???

    struggles to choke the chicken

    Oh, it's all slippery!!!

    choking the chicken

    This is harder than I thought.....

    slippery gushing noises

    AHHHH!!!!

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Facebook originally had no feed, you had to go look at individual profiles to see what people had going on.

    And the day they introduced the news feed, it was a surprise. And one guy I remember was NOT expecting that quietly removing a girl from his “in a relationship with” status would turn into a news feed item broadcast to all their friends “X IS NO LONGER IN A RELATIONSHIP WOTH Y”

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  • [–] 81 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    You could make your page what you wanted. You could browse and search it the way you wanted.

    Modern platforms do things to you while pretending to do them for you.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Custom CSS, sparkly gifs and flash games.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Don't forget all the teenage girls saying "If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best".

    Back before that became a stereotype of immaturity. Pretty sure it became a stereotype because 80% of girls under the age of 22 had this on their profile. If comment upvotes had existed at the time, it would have had universal upvote support.

    Then those girls grew up, and we all started mocking those types of phrases. Because everyone looked back and said "well that was stupid!"

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Pretty sure many of those girls grew up and that’s now on their facebooks. Thankfully the number of people with it is now like 5% of people instead of 80. Similar to Education: School of Hard Knocks

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I wish I could link you to my angelfire website. I mean, I can. It's still there. It's just when I was 14 I put my real name embedded in the website. Which wasn't a big deal in 1998. I cannot imagine doing that today.

    But I had a little java script thing that let you pick the background color. Default was blue, but there were like 6 buttons for different colors.

    I randomly got the urge to see where my websites were. Turns out Angelfire is still up. Geocities and MySpace are both gone.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Tripod was where I used to host my webpages after GeoCities died. They quietly died sometime in the last few years too.

    I later upgraded (downgraded) from the blink and marquee tags and animated gifs. I used to use wordart to make my page header graphics and was using PNG to make the backgrounds transparent before png became fashionable (it was all jpg and gif in 2000). And no one seems to remember that PNG was pronounced ping back then and not the individual letters. Either that or Deitel and Nieto lied to me.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    God, I loved Hypnospace Outlaw. Back when the internet was unsearchable and everyone loaded a .mid file to autoplay music on their homepage, marquee-scrolling text, skulls on fire and under construction banners.

    Hypnospace Outlaw, Angelfire, Geocities and Neocities.

    I miss the cringe web.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    MySpace did have the Top 8 feature, which was weird and toxic as hell. Rate your favorite friends and family members!

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Yeah I really hated when they introduced that feature. People would always say to me, "wHy ArEn'T i In yOuR tOp 8?" Drove me crazy.

    Now people don't say anything at all because I'm 37 and don't have friends anymore.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

    I didn't use MySpace, but I would imagine people saw others as people posting stuff on a community board, at that point. Instead of a detached voice inside their computer.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I forget how the boards on Myspace worked, but they definitely were there as I remember chatting on them with other freshmen before moving in to college. One of the people even ended up being a close friend and eventual room mate, and this wasn't a small school.

    Facebook started really taking off that fall of freshman year and I imagine most that socialization moved there by 07.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Less pedos too. They didn't know how to use computers, but the next generation was learning on Myspace

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I had some dude try to flirt with me on ezboard when I was 16. He offered to send a photo. My friend was with me when I got the photo and we just laughed. It was some dude probably in his 30s at least with a handlebar moustache.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago*

    MySpace (and a lot of early social media) was about keeping up with what was going on in your friends lives, not screaming into the void and being drowned out by brands and influencers (like I am doing now).

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    It was the fully HTML customizable pages that did it for me.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    I vaguely recall being disappointed at how limited Facebook was compared to Myspace. I forget the specifics, but it seemed like people posting their stories, art, and music went from normal on Myspace to a rarity on Facebook. Maybe there was a structural reason or maybe it was coincidence... so long ago, back before the world ended in 2012 but nobody noticed.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Aaand every human need into economic blackmail, let's not forget that.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    Might have been the last time a business owner said, "That's enough money for me."

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Hey but at least on my space you could put dick pics up there and get away with it. I mean allegedly of course.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    i have stopped saying good bye to people when i’m leaving in favor of a jaunty ‘don’t forget to like and subscribe’

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Whats annoying is that is proven to work, ppl do that and see an uptick

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I can see it working on kids. Maybe because I only watch YouTube on browser not logged in, so it's a default thing to not like and subscribe. I really only tend to login to the app if there's a smaller creator I'd like to give a boost to.

    When a channel aimed at a grown up audience does it, especially when they do the stupid ringing bell animation, I just find it tacky and it makes me NOT want to subscribe. Smaller channels getting started I can give a pass to, but bigger channels? It's kinda sad.

    Moriah Elizabeth has 10M subscribers and I don't remember her ever asking for likes and subscribes (and a lot of her fanbase IS kids).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Existing channels for adults see an uptick whenever they go from not doing it to doing it, they usually apologize if they are against it like yall but do it anyways because they know they're better off

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    But also less people didn't used pseudonymous names. Like, are you crazy now? MaryKay@gmail.com and your actual name is Mary Kay, that's just asking for it. They should do their thing and use cool names like BDSMenthusiast2012@proton.com.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Idk, we shouldn’t act like MySpace didn’t start getting into doing that though. Everyone doing a L4L, or comment for comment, etc. it was always about ‘oh you want your numbers up? Let’s trade, like for like’.

    MySpace was the shit, but we shouldn’t pretend it was perfect.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I will not make the Fediverse suffer the music I made in college like I did MySpace.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Not every emotion, mostly fear and anger.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That was the original plan for MySpace though.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eImN9tcqMr0

    Back when everyone’s big business idea was get a bunch of users to build an audience with a free service, and then “turn on the ads” to start making money.

    Things have definitely changed since then. /s

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    that is one problem among many including extreme right wing troll bot farms and AI generated content

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    and the profile customization made geocities aesthetic blush at times.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    MySpace wasn't better than Facebook when Facebook first started. There's a reason everyone moved to Facebook, but once Facebook killed its competitors it proceeded to enshitify.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Facebook was cleaner and more organized. The thing we loved so much about Myspace was the CSS hacking and linking in mp3's. But we aged out of that and just wanted to see old school buddies and the status of family members.

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    [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Thats because the era MySpace was created in, and died in.

    If myspace was created 10 years later, it'd be the same festering cesspit that facebook was.

    There was nothing special about myspace other than the time it was created, before enshitification had really hit the internet.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    its been a few hours since I made this post, and I was thinking.. and yeah, myspace represents an era, of pre-enshitified internet, and thats really why people remember it fondly. They remember the good times, not just with myspace, but all around it, when the internet was still interesting and not corporatified.

    Just like how I remember AOL fondly, not because it was a good thing (cause it certainly fuckin wasnt), but because it was my portal to an era of the internet. Chatrooms, and webrings, and guest books, and page hit counters, and late nights talking about interesting shit with people from the other side of the world, before search google, before advertising, before enshitification.

    AOL wasnt a good thing, Its the window, the memory focus, the prism, which I look through to remember all the good things around it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    There are people who play the music and people who listen to it....

    I bet Zuckerberg is having as much fun with internet as a user... because obviously he does not let it ruin his journey

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Facebook got popular when I was still a freshman in high school, probably earlier, because I was a stubborn late adopter. I think my first Facebook update was trying to convince people to go back to Myspace. 🥲 Even back then I thought it was sterile and boring.

    Part of me wonders how many people liked how Facebook catered to the "lowest common denominator" and didn't allow for much else. I think of how Myspace allowed people to customize their profiles extensively with HTML. A common joke is how either Neopets or Myspace taught millennials the basics of web development through allowing custom HTML. I'm curious how many people on Myspace couldn't figure HTML out and were envious of those who understood it/could make their profiles "look cool." And viola! Here is Facebook! A social media platform where no one can make fancy customizations.

    I know there's plenty of other reasons Facebook succeeded, like "the feed", which made it easy for people to stay up to date on everything going on with their friend group, which of course made it an excellent vector for the enshittification and propaganda generation observed later on.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I'm curious how many people on Myspace couldn't figure HTML out and were envious of those who understood it/could make their profiles "look cool."

    Used to be websites that would have pre-made "themes" you could copy/paste into your myspace, most of those un-savvy people would just use one of those, slightly more savvy people would do that and then customize individual bits of it (to say change a color or two).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm honestly not too sure how Myspace and Neopets operate(d).

    But in Denmark we have Arto, as the first "open" social media platform. Which featured custom HTML and all that jazz.

    It was fun as a kid, it went out of fashion way before we all suddenly needed to get a Facebook. We had full on years, without that kind of social media. Like we all played flash games on kongregate and online MMOs like Mafia family and travian. But games like those, really spread through word of mouth.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I had two neopets homepages which I still can't access, because everytime I try to get my account unfrozen, I end up talking to a bot named Blake who tells me that my original freaking sign up email with the exact date and time I created the account isn't proof. Unfortunately, "can you put me through to a real human?" doesn't work :(

    Neopets was just plain html, but you weren't allowed to say damn or hell and I think there may have been some tags you couldn't use. A lot of pages had a GeoCities vibe, there were custom usermade templates that were very 2000s sparkly. You could customise your shop and put profiles as well I believe. Very garish.

    They even had a Neodrive online storage in the early days, I don't think I ever used it though.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    We should go all the way back to Livejournal, it was the best.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I always thought that kind of social media was a recipe for bad times. Alas, most people don't care or think much, so here we are.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Word on the street, and I mean literally only the one word and one street, is that MySpace is coming back? And that it's marketing itself to a politically progressive user base ala Bluesky. I haven't been able to verify the veracity of this claim and go figure the one time I went to go look at MySpace, it was down at the time.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    The original owners are saying they want to relaunch MySpace, but they will likely fill it with LLM slop and drivel and create profit-making algorithms while saying they are going to do otherwise.

    If they don't make it a federated platform, it will inevitably enshitify.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    And here we all are building back better on the Fediverse/Threadiverse!

    I think this goes counter to the point diorworthy is making. The "technology" or knowledge or the market has change. WE changed too. So you can change the system and make it more open and democratic, but the fundamental forces acting on it have changed.

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    It doesn't let Brits sign up!
    Not that there'd be any point, I have no friends.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Suddenly; Tila Tequila.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I remember mySpace and it kinda sucked. That's not to say things are better today, but it did suck.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago

    MySpace sucked. Thats my hot take. I lived through it, I know how much it sucked. Hence why we all abandoned it ASAP. You know its all true.

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