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[–] 187 points 2 months ago

Don't fuck with people's shit without asking wtf. Life isn't like TV, not every surprise is going to be appreciated.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago

    I for one don't like people touching my shit. Especially shot that I've already put effort into myself. Ask first before you do something like that.

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  • [–] 164 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Asshole: no.

    Misguided: yes.

    His reaction isn’t unreasonable. Misplaced well intentioned actions likely will not end as intended. Ultimately, she didn’t get it. She misunderstood what he loved about the guitar.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

    The whole idea of "surprises" is complete bullshit. Social media has really over romanticised this to an extreme (big surprise! Big reaction video! Completely staged. Isn't that soooo romantic and adorable). When my wife gets a present, it costs quite a lot. I'm not going to take a chance of judging her taste, pick a brand I know nothing about and try to guess what she would like. We've got an agreement that we pick our own presents and make our plans together. No surprises bullshit. Might be boring by social media standards, but it's the best I can do.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    The modern western version of "gifts" is really about pushing over-consumption. If marketers cannot convince you to buy something yourself, they can try to convince someone else to buy it for you.

    I've always felt that gifts should be tokens. Symbols of good will, reminders of the relationship. Consumable gifts are great, especially when shared with the giver. Alcohol is great for this, but there's plenty more you can do. Small, inexpensive art prints or figurines.

    I don't want someone else to buy me something I woukd want to research myself. My parents gave me a "snow thrower" for Christmas a couple years ago. Its a relatively cheap, Ryobi 40v thing- I do not own anything else that uses that battery ecosystem. My step-dad loves his, and I am it is great for their 2-car driveway, but my driveway can probably fit like 10 cars in it, and I would have rather saved up for something nicer myself. Now i'm in this weird limbo where I feel socially obligated to use it for several years at least before I replace it with something I actually want.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    I'm a school bus driver and I get tips from the kids (really, the parents) at Christmas and the end of the school year, usually in the form of gift cards. It's still such a weird concept to me, but the thing I truly appreciate is hand-written (by the kids themselves) cards that express their appreciation and affection. It also saves me from having to go to Target (the most common gift card) and find something there that I actually want.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    The way I do gifts with my Mom is I have a wishlist of things I've researched, and she picks from it.

    That way what I'm getting is still a surprise, but it'll be something I actually want.

    The way I do gifts with my wife is she either gets me concert lawn seat tickets, or something fun to wear for me.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    My sentiment exactly. Every Christmas I get more junk I don't need, or stuff that I do need, but would have rather researched myself. I hate having a bunch of random knick-knacks and novelty items cluttering up my house, but I also feel guilty getting rid of gifts.

    Don't buy me gifts, don't bring me souvenirs, I don't need more novelty t-shirts.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    There are plenty of kinds of surprise that can be wonderful in the right context. Perhaps easiest is when someone tells you they want/would like something, you keep an eye out for opportunities, and surprise them when it comes around. (My wife wanted to see a comedian. I subscribed to their newsletter, and then got (refundable) tickets when they were performing near us, years later.) There can also be things that you are confident someone else will like, which they don't know exist. (I bought a friend a battery operated pruner after seeing him struggle to keep up with bushes.) Or small things that someone likes (flowers, chocolate, breakfast in bed, depends a lot on what they are into).

    The guitar repair was the worst kind of surprise: something irreversible, which the surprisee clearly knew about, and has chosen not to do at every single opportunity - while the surpriser doesn't know why they are choosing not to. That's not respectful, which is the absolute minimum requirement for a surprise to work.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I love to find something for a person that they don't even know they want until I give it to them, and that they will love. Can't do it on demand though - I have to see something and think "wow, cRazi-man would love this and I bet he's never even seen one.". Then buy or make whatever it is for that one person.

    My kids say that now their standards for gifts are crazy because that is how I gift. Not many, not often, only when inspired, I don't think they realized it was unusual.

    I don't understand the value of random crap. But do think that a surprise can be so good.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I don't understand this insane fixation that society has with gifts being "surprises", I find to so annoying, sometimes it even ends up being worse than not giving anything at all the gift is genuinely useless.

    One particularly bad case in experience of a surprise gift for me, was when my mom decided to surprise me with a computer as gift, specially since this is a significal finnancial burden, one of which could have been partially relifed by letting me choose and pick parts, but even though we had an agreement to let me pick the parts she just decided randomly to buy a prebuilt instead without notifying me at all, when I was extremely angry at her for this and when I questioned her horrible decision, she said: "I just wanted you to have a happy surprise" and tried to make emotionally guilty trip me when I didn't show any thankfulness for the gift with: "Why don't you love me? I do everyrhing for you"

    Why? do people assume that I want a surprise? why is this idea so ingrained into people's brain that when I ask to simply give tge money one would have spent instead in buying the gift, that is seen somehow as rude, what is so rude about trying make the most out of the money would've been spent into a worthless sock I didn't ask nor need?

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago

    I kind of have a hard time imagining such a thing being done with sincerely good intentions, how many people would really do that? Easy to imagine it as a way to exercise power over someone with a plausible pretense though.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    A worn appearance is often desired on old guitars. In some cases, it can even increase its value.

    That, and the OP probably did what would be considered finishing someone's puzzle for them.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Currently in the market for a vintage and, while I agree with your sentiment, unless the guitar's name is Trigger I've only seen prices drop with wear and tear.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Beat up old guitar in need of refurbishment:

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    The obsession I have with Trigger...

    I love that Willie, a very rich man, still plays THIS guitar and only this guitar. Like, you go to concerts and there's a guitar tech grabbing different instruments off stage, swapping them out. But ol' Willie just up there with bus up Trigger looking like she's about to collapse into splinters. But she produces such a unique sound that no other guitar can match.

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  • [–] 107 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, you don't fuck with shit a person is that attached to because you think it "looks rough"

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  • [–] 74 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    fake: 4chan poster has a husband

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago

    anon: congratulations, you're being rescued

    guitar: "..."

    anon: please do not resist

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Depends what “fix” means, but if you didn’t get ripped off for $200, yes.

    Getting it professionally tuned isn’t unreasonable imo, especially if the neck/pegs are misaligned, but in no world should that cost $200 (and don’t try to fix a misalignment).

    Once you start making changes that can’t be undone, you’ve crossed the line. Get it tuned, get a nice strap (with mounting hardware, if needed), get a polishing kit or nicer case, hell, even get a replacement bridge/pegs and tools for working with a guitar, but don’t make permanent changes yourself (or have anyone else do so). All of those together could be well over $200, but you’d describe that as a tuneup and buying accessories, not taking the guitar “to a pro to fix it.”

    Caveat that some people don’t like non-musicians or anyone else even touching their instruments, but I’d like to think that would be obvious to a spouse, even one who might have assumed that permanent changes to an instrument they don’t own are okay.

    I’m a non-musician and my husband has a somewhat beaten up, but favored instrument that he learned on, so I’ll send this to him to see if my instinct is right (for my relationship, which does not mean it would be right for anyone else).

    Though tbf, even thinking it might be okay, I got my husband a new instrument instead of messing with his beloved one, just because it occurred to me that he might react like the husband in the OP, and I didn’t want to risk it. Of course, he could also have then felt guilty about using the new one because it’s not the one he loves and felt guilty about using the old one because I gifted him a “nicer” one. I was lucky in that he’d already branched out into related instruments and the new one could fill a new niche, so wouldn’t compete with the old, making me less worried about him feeling conflicted [I'm so sorry about that sentence, I’m imagining trying to structure it in German without nominalizing any of the clauses and… woof].

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    I sent him the green text, and apparently he offered to fix a friend’s instrument in the past and got an earful. He would have been fine with me getting his old one fixed up, but he’s happy to have the new one

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago

    God damn, yeah, you are unfortunately.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 months ago

    Oof, this is a rough one. While I appreciate the gesture, that's a personal thing. That's like taking someone's favorite pair of jeans and getting them hemmed because they'd frayed at the heel. Sometimes the wear and tear is what we value.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Electric guitars are little more than a piece of wood, metal strings, and a transducer. For a lot of musicians what matters most is the sentimental value of their model. What she did was basically rob the owner of that.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    I never really understood paying a lot of money for a solid body electric; it really is just the sum of its parts.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    The key is "he loves it. I take from him without him knowing", whyyyy?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago

    Yep. Literally all anon had to do was talk to him about it first. Communication is so fucking important. I would know because a lack of it was what ended my almost decade long relationship. Talk to your fucking partners, even if it's uncomfortable in the moment. If you don't you will be MUCH more uncomfortable later when everything explodes.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If you have to ask the internet if you are an asshole then it's either because you are definitely an asshole, or because you are karma farming - in which case, you are an asshole.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    the AITA on reddit is one of it's most popular things, and lots of people farm content from it.

    because people love judging the shit out of other people and explaining how awful they are. or justifying their assholery.

    it's arm chair quarter backing other people's relationship drama. and everyone is an NFL relationship coach in their own mind.

    people ask the internet because social approval is very important to folks and they need to have their biases validated.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's like taking someone's tried and true Windows 7 machine and upgrading it to Windows 11.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Depends how it was “fixed” If the pro tuned it to make it sound perfect that’s great. But probably anon got the damage repaired, taking away its charm and character. Of course anon doesn’t even know the difference between these two things.

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  • [+] -25 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago

    You're all over this thread and you're a jackass.

    Yeah I play. Yeah I had the shittiest beat up guitar when I was in my youth. I took it all over the world because I didn't care what happened to it. Loved it while I had it and if someone had "fixed it", that would have destroyed what it was to me, jackass.

    And yeah now I have "better" guitars and I don't have that 25$ guitar anymore.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    Short answer: yes.

    Long answer: yes, but longer.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    So many arguments in this thread with so little information. Ah, the internet.

    He probably just thought it didn't sound the same any more, and he probably preferred the old 'crappy' sound. "They say she's the same [Becky], but she's not the same [Becky]."

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, absolutely. If you took something that I painted (I can't paint, fwiw) and had it touched up, fuck you.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    I fucking hate people who think they are 'helping' me or 'fixing' things for me.

    They tend to be condescending assholes who think they 'know better'.

    Like no, bitch, I know what I like and I have chosen this deliberately.

    Can't tell you how many people like give me shit about my home, my kitchen, my pantry, my bikes, my car, etc. These people tend to think nothing is worth anything unless it's the latest, greatest, trendiest, most expensive version of a thing. Like, apparnetly if I don't own a Tesla, live in a grey-white box, and own $10,000 bicycles or $1000 knives, I am 'struggling' at life or something

    I also love how people like this insist that you must perpetually be in therapy and/or have a personal trainer... or you are 'not doing the work'. Just because you're a lazy loser who exercise or be mentally health without paying someone to do it for you, doesn't mean the rest of us live our lives that way.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Or the people who refer to everything as cheap just because it's not "expensive". I know people who are so fucking condescending because according to them everything else is cheap. Ok, you have an expensive ass Thermador fridge...whose ice machine hasn't worked in 6 years. Wow, those certainly are an expensive LG washer dryer set...that you need to leave the door open on because its drainage is shit and will get musty and grow mildew if the door is closed. Nice new Volvo, with all the LaTeSt SaFeTy FeAtUrEs while you still refuse to even look at the backup camera and yet manage to hit curbs.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I have a newer LG washing machine in my house. It smells like the sewage line is backing up into it ... which I know it isn't because it free-drains into a utility sink.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Whenever they're finished with laundry they have to leave the doors open. I don't recall of it's a drainage problem or just shitty design but all the moisture/water isn't removed. It's a known flaw and last I heard LG and other manufacturers with similar problems have done fuck-all about it

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Not wrong to do. Wrong to do without asking first.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Is Anon George Lucas?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Reading the comments...is there one actual guitar player here? Does anyone know what the fuck actually goes into setting the intonation and adjusting the action of the strings?

    And people talking about permanent changes they could have made....what possible changes are getting done for 200...the proper parts alone would cost at least half of that and no one is doing work in a shop for free.

    So presumably she had it set up which means strings were changed, intonation was properly setup and the action was adjusted with a truss rod check and some feet polishing.

    If he's pissed the intonation is correct hes just a shitty player.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Or he liked that it was his guitar that he salvaged with his own hands.

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  • [+] -31 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Tell me you've never played with out telling me you've never played

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If someone took my guitar and had it adjusted by someone else to meet standard industry sound specs I’d be pissed. It’s not just a guitar, it’s my hobby and something I have put a lot of time into to get the specific tone, tension, and sound that I’m looking for. Especially if they paid 200 bucks to have it done, you could pick up a beater guitar, an amp, a synth, or even a used drum kit for that much.

    It also just crosses a certain line of respect for someone’s art and personal space. It’d be like if someone was working on a painting and you snuck it away to have it finished by a commissioned artist. That’d be shitty and disrespectful.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly what I was thinking. It's like grabbing your unpainted warhammer figures and having them professionally painted. Yeah, they look better, but that's not the point.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I think it's an overall change. I have a very solid latitude laptop I recovered when work upgraded our systems. It's beat to hell, but it's very reliable and I use the hell out of it. I'm not afraid of it getting scratched or dropped, it's worn in and I love it. Wouldn't trade it or get it "repaired" for anything.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    Flip a coin, you might get a positive or negative reaction depending on how you frame it.

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  • [+] -20 points 2 months ago (15 children)

    As a guitar player, you get so much used to how the instrument feels in your hand while you play it that even something that should make it better ends up making it feeling worse.

    That said, if the husband really loved that guitar the way it was, he could have brought it back to the luthier, have them undo their job. Stop playing it altogether was his decision and acting like that seems like a "punishment" for their spouse. That would be childish and borderline toxic behavior.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Maybe he's not doing it as a punishment. Maybe the spark is just gone now that it's not "his" anymore.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    As I already said, a guitar tech can bring it back to its original state for free or a small fee in a matter of minutes. If you refuse to play it instead then its on you.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    It can't go back to a state of not having been fucked with by someone else. That's literally impossible.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    To give you an analogy, it would be like giving up your car because some guy changed the lightbulbs in your headlights. That is literally reversible.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And if the patina is now shine? and the scratches are now filled with wood glue under a glued on pick guard? and the peg that came off that old banjo they found in the middle of a gig 20 years ago has been replaced with a brand new set. And the notch on the edging where steve's girlfriend slammed a nazi in the face at the same party where sabrina fucked that idiot from the ska band and got pregnant?

    You are woefully unimaginative if you think everything can be reversed.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You watched too many tik toks and evidently never had a guitar looked by a tech: 200$ is gonna get you at best a couple hours of work and a new set of strings.
    Anything else is just an articulate fantasy to hide the fact you got rage baited by a 4chan post like a noob.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I have never watched a tiktok. And you have no idea what the quality of the luthier in question was so your guardrails around pricing are worthless.

    Regardless. My point stands. And apparently went over your head. Let's try again with fewer words:

    "Yes, there are things that can be done to a guitar that you can not reverse."

    That's it. That's all.

    cheers

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Not really the same thing at all as my car cost $1000s of dollars and is a necessity for making a living. Although I would still be POed if someone took it to a shop without my consent as I am more than capable of changing the bulbs myself and taking it to a shop risks having the FNG screw something up. Also unlikely they’re gonna return the old bulb to you in case you want to put it back. So no, it’s not reversible.

    A guitar I found in the trash is very different. It cost me nothing but the time and effort I put into fixing it up. Time and effort that has now been nullified by having a professional redo it. It’s not my effort that brought this thing back from being garbage anymore, it’s this other guy that got paid to take over my work.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    As a fellow guitar player I'm not certain why this is being down voted so hard? Guitars are made to be modified, so anything that was done can be undone.

    The interesting thing is that the wife said she only spent $200 bucks to get the guitar repair. Your mileage may vary, but in my neck of the woods $200 doesn't get you too much in the way of a repair. They would probably offer to give your guitar a 'setup' and a new pack of strings, near me that would cost around $100, maybe a little more. So whatever else they fixed couldn't have been too invasive, possibly new tuning pegs or resolved any wiring issues?

    Everything there can be undone, a setup is the hardest as it would change the feel of the guitar. For the most part the 'feel', really only comes down to string height or 'action'. That's a quick fix for a guitar tech if brought back to the shop, hell a motivated amateur could probably probably figure out how to make that adjustment with a screwdriver and a Google search.

    All that said I totally understand how the 'magic' of a guitar can easily be lost in the hands of a well intentioned but misguided guitar tech.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Repeating myself from a previous comment:

    And if the road-earned patina is now shine? and the scratches are now filled with wood glue under a glued on pick guard? and the peg that came off that old banjo they found in the middle of a gig 20 years ago has been replaced with a brand new set. And the notch on the edging where steve’s girlfriend slammed a nazi in the face at the same party where sabrina fucked that idiot from the ska band and got pregnant?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Let me start by saying I get it, sometimes the 'magic' of a guitar gets ruined by a well intentioned guitar tech.

    That said what you are describing is a complete re-finishing job, and possibly a gutting the guitar down to a husk and replacing all the parts. The paint will easily cost upwards of 1-2k, and swapping out everything with decent parts could cost $500 - $1,000.

    The 'wife' in the green text said she spent $200, for that price you aren't getting much, fresh strings, a setup, and possibly a spot level and crown for any high frets. A few minor tweaks, that in theory could be undone.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah probably the wife went to the guitar tech and asked "can you please make this better" and they gave it the classic fret leveling and crowning for a lower action and probably not much more for 200$. But the downvote mob already picked its side in this story so I'm not even gonna bother correcting them.

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