How hard is it to not groom kids guys
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Damn, what a terrible situation for those people that worked hard and didn't diddle kids.
Pedophiles should just kill themselves before killing cool projects like this.
Or raping kids I guess.
I recommend you listen to this This American Life episode: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/522/tarred-and-feathered
It may give you some perspective
Pedophiles are a minority of the child rapers, so that's a stupid statement.
Just read the DSM-V before commenting such bullshit.
wait what? I am aware that most pedos do not offend, but this is the first time Im hearing that most offenders are not pedos.
There's a clause in that. Learn english before responding to comments written in English.
Oh, I'm so sorry, I just reread it and realized I misunderstood what you said.
I noticed that I isolated the first part of your comment and overlooked the subordinating conditional clause below it, which led me to commit a straw man fallacy driven by a selection bias.
That said, I have to point out that your initial statement still relied on a composition and a generalization fallacy —even though you didn't explicitly claim that all pedophiles are offenders— by stating in a blanket way that all pedophiles should kill themselves due to the actions of a minority of them.
I think this mutual oversight was the root of the misunderstanding, and again, I apologize for my part in it.
I hope this helps both of us have better interactions in the future.
Like 3rd developer getting outed from grooming. Reading 262 pages was bad enough now we have this mess
:(
Terraria is one of my favorites and I haven't had a chance to play Calamity. RetroAchevements had, remarkably, added support for the base game and I think there were hopes for set support of this and any other big mods (tracking completion, doing additional challenges, etc). I'm sure this puts some damper on those efforts.
I'll have up make do with just trying to finish the Completionist set if the craving hits again (it's insane, every item in the game must be collected!)
The allegations stem from alleged interactions Ozzatron had with teenage minors in a NSFW Discord server. The project lacks the resources to handle requests for removal of contributor content.
The fallout came fast, as composer CD Music resigned, the Catalyst side-project got shelved, and planned content like Sunken Sea never surfaced. Then, Contributors started requesting their work be pulled from the mod entirely, and since Calamity no longer has enough developers to process each request, ending development became, as the team put it, “the closest thing we can do to fulfilling everybody’s requests.”
Ozzatron, meanwhile, holds sole ownership of the mod’s GitHub, and he’s reportedly gone quiet since, which leaves the project’s future genuinely uncertain.
The idea of supporting a mod for ten years seems a bit wild to me. Back in my day, people just released mods when they were done and that was that.
Anyway.. it's not like the mod is going anywhere. Presumably you can play in its current state into perpetuity
Future updates to Terraria will break the mod. The mod was also not finished from what I understand. It has been adding content for those 10 years.
Terraria's devs ended new content development with their last update. Idk if they will still do bugfixes, but there is very few chances for a breaking change that would affect mods.
Terraria's devs ended new content development with their last update.
Well... that happened more than once before.
If you say so.
Strange how triple-slop games and idies do the opposite. The first promises years of content and can the project after barely a year, and the second promises stopping creating new content only to release a surprise new content patch out of nowhere 😆.
This kind of thing happens because the indie or AA devs traverse the dunning kruger curve, as they develop the game.
They often initially think things will be easier than they actually are. Then, the reality of the complexities of game dev hits them in the mouth. After that... they become more measured in their public promises.
Better to underpromise and overdeliver, than to overpromise and underdeliver.
Whereas AAA/corpo games... the entire plan the whole time is to bait and switch you, if they don't become astoundingly successful basically instantly.
See, they have a marketing budget and the salaries of a bloated management hierarchy they need to cost justify, quickly, because line must go up.
I can't speak to Terraria specifically, but just with most games in general?
An actual bugfix often means you changed the underlying guts of some system, some system that had appeared to work, but actually, had a fundamental flaw, even if minor.
With that kind of a fix... well, often mods essentially work by creating their own uses of, or work-arounds for the old buggy system.
So, when that system is reworked, to remove the bug... well now some of the guts of the mod may need to be reworked as well.
An extreme example of this would be the FO4 'update'.
Not really much in the way of new content... but they reworked a bunch of the guts. Which broke just most mods that did anything beyond something entirely simplistic and superficial.
I'm not too surprised really. modding old games and the mod pack takes literal decades to finish. for example red alert 2, tiberium sun, CNC generals (and zero hour) just for the ones that interest me.
bugs exists. modders fix bugs. especially so for games that are still getting updates, even one as scarcely updated as Terraria. I recall some long time ago the Terraria devs said the game is "finished" and then later on some big anniversary year they released a surprise update. my memory is faulty so don't quote me
Tbf, there are mods that have just kept on getting more and more features and content added to them, and/or took a stupid amount of time to get to basically v1.0.
Black Mesa Source, the HL1 remake in HL2 engine... pretty sure that took a decade, was originally a mod.
Yes, by far most mods for most games are more... hah, 'modular', and tend to be basically just a single or few releases, but there are much more expansive mods of much larger scope, for many different games.
Basically, most 'total conversion' mods tend to be more like that... years of development toward a kind of end goal state, because they are basically making an entirely or massively different game, based on whatever particular original game.
That being said, I mean this just broadly for pc game mods. I don't play Terraria much, never even heard of this mod till this post/article.
Calamity was such a cool mod and i was so excited to see the final boss and all the lore to be finished
Why is gamesradar protecting nonces with that headline‽
Wait, so two subsequent lead developers got caught allegedly doing illegal stuff (with actual evidence and matching police reports I am assuming, because I won't read the article on that site), so now everyone else who liked the mod or worked on it are being punished for it?
Just get a new lead developer from the other developers already working on the mod and carry on. Its not the mod's fault the former lead devs did what they allegedly (I can only assume since I have not seen any evidence) did.
The remaining developers want to shutter it, as they say they feel they've been burned too many times.
That's what they did the previous time. Dude was a pedo. Again.
I don't really blame them.
assuming there are police reports is being way to generous to the fools that engage in witch hunts.
if there are any it isn't mentioned anywhere on the article.
Idk, but I hate the inability of many people to separate the author from the work.
Generally you're supporting the author by consuming their work. I wouldn't want to support a pedo, especially if it benefits them monetarily.
I'll copy-paste because I essentially got the same response before 😅
Yeah, but piracy exists. If it didn't existed, I wouldn't consume those works either, I can give you that point, but you can simply pirate.
And yeah, I understand all about the bad taste, it happened with two musicians I liked a lot that were groomers and all that, and another 9ne that sexually abused a partner of him, and now I can't hear their songs because I feel uncomfortable. It's ok and normal. The whole point is that it's still personal and I won't be policing anyone who still listens to them, and I still listen other artists that did such things because I didn't felt such a emotional connection with these.
Tbh, I'll admit that I focused it wrong, the thing I actually hate are those moral policers and SJW that cancel people like a sport.
It sounds like somebody told you "piracy fails to support artists" and you took the wrong thing away from that.
Edit: oh it's in this thread whoops. I don't think you're addressing what the comment to whom you're replying is saying.
They were groomers hosting grooming servers on Groomcord. Don't sugar coat it, too much of this shit going on these days.
(...) likely referencing accusations that have been making rounds online about some of the mod's leads and whatnot – a situation I'd argue is worth a quick Google as it gets quite dark and might be a tad too heavy here.
Why cover a story but only halfway? How embarrassing.

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