Lol, they think the computers in star trek were just LLMs
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Communities, not instances. Startrek.website is one instance, lemmy.today is another. An instance hosts communities. Also, no point censoring the names since the modlog is public.
It happens when you post here, you don't even have to interact with their community. Instead they come here, by their own volition, to be angry about us not liking AI and they then decide to ban every name they come across. This community existing is insult enough for them. Thankfully they self-isolate for the most part.
There’s at least two communities in there that I have interact with. I don’t think this mod is that petty. However there’s some « stable_Something » that ban me for being here. Meh 🤷♀️
are you saying people here may have been banned by communities without even knowing? fascinating :o I wouldn't even know how to check that
I got curious and just looked up my profile in the ban log and it seems I am banned as well in a handful of random (same mod in all of them I assume) dbozer communities without having posted in any of them, with the reason given being "Troll account" (no mention of AI).
So yup, just a power mad mod being cultish about their AI-slop, who probably just banned anybody who posts in here.
I mean.. That kind of sounds like they're doing a public service, TBH 😅
I’d agree but it’s pretty fucking gross to ban people that have never even visited your community.
I legitimately think anyone here would deserve a ban if they went over there and said shit. We clearly don’t belong but we’re here minding our own business.
Yes, but its not a problem. Usually the mod just bans you from their personal AI dumping ground.
I found out that I was banned from a handful of communities. I was banned for 3 months or something, but didn't even see that I was banned until after about 6 months had passed. I guess it didn't impact me at all. The mods be trippin'.
If you’re using voyager go into « your profile » and the 3 dots in the right up corner
Even if I say that I love AI and unquestioningly accept whatever today's horseshit is?
I have been banned from exactly one, and it was literally for dissenting opinions about AI.
You claim to hate AI in real life but like AI in SciFi. Curious.
What? You like Star Trek, but don't want to live in the Star Trek universe?!?!
Not wanting to live in the Star Trek universe is honestly crazy it's basically Paradise compared to the real world, even billionaires would likely be better off in that universe from a fulfilment and happiness perspective
The ai in Star Trek is actually helpful and everyone is having their needs met thanks to technology eliminating scarcity. The AI in real life is useless and causing even more problems for everyone.
totally not a cult
This isn't about AI - that's just an excuse.
What they really didn't want was a Tribble infestation, and well, given your username...you can see why they might want you to keep your distance...
Yeah, where is my ship computer anyway? The duotronic circuits, Holodeck Moriarty, an LCARS panel in the hallway and a pad in my readyroom? Why do I have to constantly refill the coffee beans, empty the collection container, do the descale program and the machine doesn't just provide me with "coffee, black" whenever I like? Feels like it's handing out even more quests to me than any Voyager storywriter could imagine. I'm also waiting for ages on tablets which can just flick over the app and data to my colleagues like in Stargate SG1.
Edit: Also dunno, I can't remember how in Star Trek, all the AI is done by big, nasty corporations. Gobbles up half the hardware so it becomes unaffordable to people and they build a big, dirty gas powered datacenter next to Picard's family's wineyard. And then Voyager's ship computer ceases to work the moment they drop out of wifi range?! Did I miss those episodes?
These people understand Star Trek is fictional, often takes place on quasi-military vessels, and depicts a society that has some significant differences from our own, right?
A friend has compared generative AI to the electric monks from Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective agency.
I've found that the AI chatbots feel a lot like the Genunine People Peronalities from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
You’ll have to spark my memories because I don’t remember those
From Dirk Gently
The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.
In the book, an alien ship crashed on earth, the crew asked an electric monk if their ship was repaired. The monk responded that it believed it was, the aliens tried to take off, and then the ship exploded because it wasn't actually repaired.
In Hitchhiker's Guide, Genuine People Personalities were AIs that tended to be obnoxiously cheerful, neurotic, or hyperactive. Doors with a GPP would sigh with pleasure when they opened and loudly ask if they did a good job if someone told them to open quietly, for example.
God ! Douglas Adams was fucking funny. What a shame he didn’t got to see our time
But let's for a moment ignore that it is fictional. Star Trek's economical system is communism, I wonder if they also embrace it?
And yet Star Trek still had to have a human being repeat all what the A.I. was saying to make sure that it wasn't shite.
lol I got similar treatment by those dipshits a few months ago

"stable_diffusion_furry"
My dude, you're in a subculture that basically revolves around human art and creativity. Get out of your ass.
bdzer0's claim to be anarchist yet wholly embracing AI is some cognitive dissonance that I cannot wrap my head around.
Genuinely my biggest gripe with their entire instance. How do they not realize that by using LLMs you rob yourself of the chance to gain new skills in art or coding?
Plus the fact that they are literally sucking up to techbro billionaire oligarchs pushing this nonsense by doing so.
I guess the techbro in them overrules the anarchist.
How does running a Chinese model locally on your computer suck up to techbro billionaire oligarchs?
Techbro oligarchs would love nothing more than for you to use AI because it ultimately turns your brain into soup from its sycophantic behaviour. Many cases of AI psychosis have appeared and a lot of stories of suicides spurred on by LLMs have come out.
The billionaires push LLMs on everyone because it'll turn you into political cattle. Locally run models won't help you because the problems don't come from the fact that other models are run on their private servers, it comes from the effects of prolonged AI usage.
I never trust taxi drivers who use an electronic map. Taxi drivers should know all of the streets by heart, and be able to accurately predict road congestion, like they did in the good old days. By using this evil navigation technology, their spatial awareness withers and it is just a shame.
I mean, it is true that if you don't use a GPS or an electronic map that you do develop a better awareness of your surroundings and the street mapping. Same way using a guide to something doesn't let you really remember and commit to memory the task you're doing.
It's just that AI exacerbates that tendency tenfold, because you don't even have to follow a guide if the guide does it for you.
knowing streets and predicting road congestion are not creative acts, that is they are not creating something
Wow, okay. I mean I was being sarcastic with my comment, but now I kinda regret it. Way to cheapen another profession's talents and trade.
nothing in your comment indicated sarcasm. unless you're brand new to the Internet you should know perfectly well that pure-text communication lacks the fidelity to indicate that. this is why so many times over the age of the internet people have tried to add in a way to communicate that either with "/s" or SaRcAsM/mOcKiNg CaSe, or italics sometimes, someone once even tried to make a sarcasm mark
I said nothing to cheapen taxi drivers or their profession. I respect and appreciate it a great deal, especially with examples of them unionizing. That doesn't change the fact that the profession does not create a thing. I find it disingenuous that you would suggest that not calling a profession creative would diminish it.
Garbagemen, for instance, is a profession that is very much worth respecting but also which does not create anything.
they oddlly crossbanned me from multiple comms i dont vist at all, thier reason was a vague"whatabotism" i couldnt find the actual offense, checked the modlogs. so i think they did it like some reddit subs did. i participate din a comm they dint like and just crossbanned me.
What a strange take. That's like saying you couldn't be trotskyist and embrace industry in 1919.
Man DBzer0 really sucks. That's the one place I've been mass banned from (although it is because there was a troll using my name, but they never even responded to an unban request), I should check if it applies to the ai dumping communities too.
The computers in Star Trek didn’t (normally) hallucinate, so they’re definitely not LLMs.
Obviously I’m not enough of an AI hater cause I ain’t been banned from shit.
The computers in Star Trek are fictional. They work because the plot needs them too. They do not resemble a large language program because they don't resemble anything. You might as well say CSI: Miami's enhance image computer is AI.
The mod who typed that up might as well just declare from the rooftops, "I fell for a Silicon Valley marketing trick of describing software with a sci-fi tropes."
I don't remember “the computers” being AI. Holograms and androids? Sure. But for the computers be that level of AI would throw Trek into dystopia.
You don’t need to redact your rap sheet, it’s public.
LCARS was a data access and retrieval system capable of doing calculations and simulations. It was not, I REPEAT, was not "artificial intelligence". It did not try to act or sound sentient, it simply responded to commands and ran programs.
TOS had the m5, which went rogue and started attacking and blowing up other starships, and lower decks had the Texas class, which went rogue and started attacking other starships
There is at least one instance where it was written as sapient in TNG. That was mostly for a joke, though. Specifically, there was a running gag in early TNG with Data getting a bit too into defining things and someone (usually Picard) would interrupt him with something along the lines of, "Thank you, Data, we get it." In one scene, Data is alone and only talking to the computer, which gives the line there.
Though it could create intelligence. "Computer, make an opponent that can be better than data". Ok, guess it's time to make a sentient hologram then.
But that could only be done if the method do so had been stored as a program in the databanks. In Voyager, when they try to replicate The Doctor; Harry writes a program and then tells the computer to run that program. When the hologram fails, he has to reprogram it and run again.
It's not like Star Trek is the most consistent over time.
In Voyager, they did tend to treat the Doctor with more care and show that it was a lot of hard work. By extension the other sentient holograms.
In TNG, they absolutely just casually upgraded a run of the mill holodeck NPC to a sentient being with a single supremely vague directive.
Yeah, probably because all of the computers had some guardrails built in due to the "Moriarty Incident".
Isn't "post-scarcity society" a big part of star trek too? Weird to claim you are a star trek fan while defending "scarcity generator 3000."
Update 2 makes me smile.




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