Why YSK: consuming too much sodium can lead to high blood pressure, increasing the risk of heart disease and stroke. In my country (USA), the average daily sodium intake is over 3,300mg, exceeding the recommended maximum of 2,300mg. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends an even lower maximum of 2,000mg.

Also: with the rising cost of food, being mindful of additives that increase sell weight is important.

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[–] 141 points 3 months ago (20 children)

Here is a short that tells of what's going here. This short is also a reaction, from an independent farmer who farms chickens. I think the creator here, FarmingWhileBeige, offers a lot of good insight into what is bad and not bad in our current farming practices as a level headed not batshit crazy maga person.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I don't disagree that you removed the short designation from the link, but what's the difference between the two? It's the same video with the same aspect ratio and the same obnoxious subtitles one word at a time. My sound is turned off so if there was a difference there it went unnoticed

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Speaking for myself here:

    • Shorts loop automatically, something I find annoying
    • Shorts have loads of UI over the video by default; while there is a "clear screen" button in the context menu, it doesn't persist, and is extra interaction that a normal video doesn't require
    • It's easier to scrub through a normal video on mobile; while there is a progress bar at the bottom of a short, you can't drag up on that bar to get fine-grained seeking

    This is my "old man tells at cloud" moment and I'm okay with that.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh ok, I appreciate the answer! I didn't think of those points because I have seen hardly any because I avoid it like the plague. Do you know if removing the designation works for all shorts?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    FWIW, his subtitles are often edited with substitutions, so if you don't listen to the audio you'll occasionally miss out on a punchline or other descriptives. It's not necessary for his messages that people have to read and listen at the same time, but it's kind of like Easter eggs lol .

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    FarmingWhileBeige is highly recommended. He does a lot of good educational (and sassy) videos about different aspects of the farming industry, and has a good catalogue of funny shorts of reacting to stupid TikTokkers in-between. He has the experience and knowledge, and he'd be the first to tell you to stay the fuck away from the industry unless you're ready to deal with a lot of bullshit.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I got 4 words into your post and immediately went "its FarmingWhileBeige, isnt it" and yeah, you name drop him a short while later.

    He's awesome.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    and the visceral horror of a woman hammering nails into a chicken and frying it in what, by all appearances, looks to be used motor oil.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Motor oil + violent splashing of wet ingredients into said motor oil. Her whole thing has to be rage bait.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    How do you overlook the fact that the chicken has like a hundred nails pounded into it.

    I dont know why, or how, but that viscerally feels worse than possible motor oil, because perhaps its only the possibility that the oil is motor oil, while the chicken has the absolute finality of actually looking like a Cenobite.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Along with this, it's probably wise to put the sodium numbers into context - the salt used to season your chicken is probably not going to be what's going to put you over the top when it comes to salt intake. Highly processed foods, sauces and bread is more likely going to be the thing that gets you.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Here in Denmark how much water is in the chicken is written on the label of the packaging. It is also required to list what ingredients are used to treat the chicken if anything besides water is used.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Must be nice living in a functioning society.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Sure but you can read European history and find out why. People had to rise up to get this, along with vacations.

    You can't vote away evil since the ones who run things are not elected.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It was also hundreds of years of extremely destructive wars.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    That was for other reasons though, like princes egos and the status quo, before that we had the plague too so I don't think it's relevant to the discussion...

    People rising up has been a theme for some time though, and that's what it takes.

    Eh, usa!

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago* (16 children)

    Also, at least in my area, I believe there is a mislabeling scam going on. At least twice now I have bought boneless skinless chicken thighs from 2 different grocery stores (different chains) and the weight has been like ~15% lower than advertized.

    Like a package of chicken thighs labeled at 3.11lbs (1.4kg) actually weighed roughly 2.67lbs (1.2kg), 14% less. One labeled at 2.49lbs (1.13kg) actually weighed roughly 2.1lbs (0.95kg), 16% less.

    Some of that may be accounted for by the absorbant pad sucking out some of that excess liquid they pump in, but it shouldn't be so radically different

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You can weigh it with the pad to check

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    You'd have to know the dry weight of the pad to do that.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Meat has a water content, and water is lost by evaporation between the packagers and the person who brings it home.
    If you care about this, buy from a butcher who weighs at the time of sale.

    Or, wash your chicken and watch the weight magically increase.

    This is another Tiktok "scandal".

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    It's not just meat though. And sometimes they are way off to the point it is definitely not within reason. A good one seen was the prepackaged mini hams that are airtight. They were weighed and basically 30% off or more from the label the store slapped on them.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Again, if you believe every "scandal" on tiktok and YouTube...people fake this shit.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I have only seen 1 person do it and I am not on tik tok or ever used it before. I guess theres a chance they are lying, but they have gotten several suppliers to admit to issues they reported and were corrected. I would like to think I am good at weeding out fake videos and they just dont seem like it, but there is always a chance.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    It's really not. The weight determines the price and added water raises the cost, you are essentially paying meat prices for water content. In the EU there are strict rules against that. A meat producer has to declare the amount of added water if it's above 2%. Of course there are companies which fraudulenty go above that without declaring it. My point is, that's illegal for a reason

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Yeah, like I said I'm not certain. And I have since seen random people circulating this on various social media, but I noticed it myself first. At 15%, it could just be water loss, but also it could be something more than that. Mainly it's just an annoyance.

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    [–] 22 points 3 months ago

    Ehh, a restaurant would salt it past there anyway. Culinarily, you'd be well within reason to brine fresh chicken.

    Price per pound is pretty bullshit thought, making it cost at the price if meat is BS

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    As someone with POTS, I for one am okay with sodiummaxxing 😎

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Having an older phone system doesn't protect you against heart disease.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You joke but honestly I would rather feel normal and live with an increased risk of heart disease than feel awful 24/7 for my whole like like I do on a low-sodium diet. At least I can exercise and reduce unhealthy fat intake to help my risk.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    And the "lower sodium is more heart healthy" thing was, if I'm remembering a podcast I once listened to right, only consistently true for people that already had high blood pressure. Normal blood pressure people saw more mixed results with a low sodium diet.

    source: a recent episode of the podcast Maintenance Phase.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I've seen people getting upset about this. I'm only upset because I have kidney issues and have to watch my sodium and meat really fucks me when it comes to sodium content.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's basically just pre-brining them. And the label discloses the added salt water.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    I'd also add that if you cook those plumped up chicken breasts, they will immediately release all that extra brine into your dish and ruin it. Buy normal-size chicken breasts and resist the urge to go for the "best" weight to price ratio.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    Also ham and almost all boiled and reconstituted meats.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Common with red meat also.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    Look for "air-chilled chicken" to find chicken that doesn't have this.

    Also some organic brands don't do this because of the laws around chemical use making chlorine not possible. Brands vary, though.

    Farmers markets are another route.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    I bought a cheaper brand of meat than usual earlier this year. It was so wobbly it could have been a pillow in a water bed. Needless to say the cooked meat was salty but otherwise tasteless with a consistency of pre chewed porridge.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    So just the same as adding water to milk

    Why is this even legal?

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago (20 children)

    This makes the chicken taste better too.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    True, but you can salt or brine the chicken yourself instead of paying more for it.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Also true, but salting it leaves a much dryer, crappier chicken. Brining one works great, but I'd much rather get one already brined vs having to brine one myself like 6 hours before I want to start cooking it. That's a lot of time and a lot of salt I'll only use once before dumping.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Salting only draws moisture out of the outermost layer of skin and meat, which improves browning and crisping. It won't affect the interior. The best way to reduce moisture loss in the meat is to spatchcock it so it cooks faster and more evenly.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I only spoke of salting in comparison to using a brine. There is no cooking method that doesn't leave you with a more moist cooked piece of meat if the meat was brined beforehand. Spatchcocking is great. It's better in combination with brined bird. Same with rotisserie, which I generally prefer over spatchcocking.

    There's a lot of great cooking methods, but starting with more moisture trapped in the protein always means there's more moisture left after cooking.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Well agree to disagree then, I don't see the point of cooking a whole chicken at home if I'm not getting crispy skin.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    What? Why on earth do you think a brined chicken can't give you crispy skin?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    You can definitely still get it crispy but because it's retaining moisture, It'll never get as crispy as a dry brined chicken. I spatchcock my chickens and cover in a mixture of salt and baking powder, then leave it in the fridge uncovered overnight to dry the skin out. Then I poke some holes in the fat deposits to let the fat render out, bake it at about 400F, brush it once or twice with the rendered fat from the pan until done. Crispy skin, moist meat, can't beat it.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Eh, in my experience this chicken has a weird texture so not really

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  • [+] -14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    LOL, sarcasm ... right ? right ... ?

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    I'm sorry you had to learn it so late in life but, salt makes food tasty. You should try some next time.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Okay so, since we are being serious : my taste preferences are :
    1- adding salt, but also,
    2- reducing the amount of water.

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  • [+] -13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Covers up the taste of chlorine

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    Eat less meat and buy Quality.If still undecided, a temporary job in a meatpack factory will be helpful.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    This is why I don't buy chicken from costco. Thankfully theres a good provider (Sunrise Farms) from Richmond on the Lower Mainland that makes a frozen skinless, boneless breat that's cheaper than Costco, cooks to nearly the same size it started as the water content is low, and is semi-local to Vancouver Island.

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