Tehran says fees to cover cost of managing waterway will come into effect at end of 60-day negotiation period

Iran has announced plans to introduce a system of maritime fees in the strait of Hormuz in two months, after the 60-day period of negotiation that has been triggered by the signing of the memorandum of understanding.

Tehran, claiming a historic victory over the US, said the strait was under its control and a European plan for a naval mission to escort ships though the strait would not be welcome.

The warning came as the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth reported that Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, had said Israel “will maintain the security zone in south Lebanon as long as our security needs require it”, referring to the more than 600 sq km of Lebanese territory occupied by Israeli troops along the border.

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[–] 64 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Dum-dum donnie does it again.

    This fucking moron thinks international politics is just like his stupid gameshow or his daddy's business was. He really does think he's "great at 'deals'", and he probably has never been good at "deals" when running his daddy's business. The guy fucked up running a casino, FFS.

    And the people that voted for him? And the ones that still back him? Jesus fucking christ, are they intolerable idiots.

    Try to picture a black Democrat with the same background - daddy's business, blabbermouth for decades on shows like Stern's, gets a game show handed to him, goes on to be President, then proceeds to fuck up everything, but minus the racism and misogyny. You think these fucking morons would not be able to see what a complete dumbass that person is?

    It's only because he gives them license to be their worst selves that they continue to not see - or pretend to not see.

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    [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    All the humans living in and around Iran must be pretty pissed that some guy from the other side of the world came over and fucked things up for everybody.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    The warning came as the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth reported that Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, had said Israel “will maintain the security zone in south Lebanon as long as our security needs require it”

    Got to wonder if there's some 5D chess going on here. "Hey, Trump, the treaty said you and your allies had to withdraw from Lebanon." "Yeah, well, we're ditching Israel as allies then. So there."

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Solar panels are cheap and can be recycled.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    They use chemicals going through Hormuz.

    A PCB precursor is an example.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Lots of things do, but luckily enough solar PCBs are so small and simple that changing their supply chain would add a negligible cost while the transition to solar as a whole will bring in enough savings to offset that and more.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I don't think it's that simple, they also need transformers to make AC and those need more PCBs, various electronics also need helium to engrave the wafers, it's not really that simple.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    We could go down the rabbit hole of each individual component and get into a nitpicky argument, but I'm not interested in doing that.

    Instead I'm going to make the claim that solar panels themselves are so cheap now that if the US transitioned most of its power grid to solar it would pay for itself within our lifetime. Independence from petrostates is achievable. It's a policy choice that it hasn't happened yet.

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  • I generally agree except the part about independence from petrostates : the US is now a net exporter of fossil fuels with the fracking boom, they're intervening over Hormuz only for those specific plants making those niche byproducts and because market prices are related to local US prices (and due to Israeli pressure).

    About your solar grid argument, another that is, in my opinion, valid this time why the switch hasn't happened is that when switching grids, all options should be studied. The least polluting option I saw is a mix between solar, wind and nuclear. With as few batteries as possible and load shifting maximization.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (26 children)

    And why fucking shouldn't they?

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  • [–] 47 points 4 months ago (25 children)

    There is the notion of free passage on the seas. Imagine if every country could say “we’re enacting a toll on passage through our waters.” It would make maritime trade much more expensive and dangerous.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    If Iran can do it, then Turkey can as well

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    And the UK. English Channel is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.

    If the Iranians who just surrendered can rake in billions in transit fees then so can we.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Except you won't rake in billions. It's Brexit all over again: whatever you gain with putting tariffs on shipping and shouting how powerful and important and independent you are, you'll lose manyfold in general trade benefits... Everyone loses, and EU freight will find another way, rail to Genova and sail through Gibraltar or Suez, for example.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Doubtful. More than likely the EU just pays or they go to war and occupy Britain. Billions either way.

    And if Iran can do it and Britain could do it, then Spain can do it.

    If rail could replace shipping, it’d have already done so. In Mexico they’ve proposed a rail line to bypass the Panama Canal and it’d do just a fraction of the Canal’s volume.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    You don't own the channel, mate. UK gets a strip, france gets a strip, and the middle is international friggin waters

    But it would be funny to watch you try

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    "I made a blank statement that was absolutely identical to those made in earnest by nutbag nationalists why did no one see i was joking???"

    Remember your sarcasm and joke tags, kids

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    International law is whatever countries agree to. There was a notion that primary schools aren't legitimate missile targets, until, suddenly, they were. This is similar.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I’d like to imagine that MAGA didn’t elect King Dingleberry to be the fucker upper of all things but my imagefuckenator quit working on me!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I'm quite sure that Russia cheered on Donvict because they were quite sure he'd be a wrecking ball to everything American.

    Sure he's enriching himself and his shitty family and those around him all the way. But everything else in America is getting destroyed by this total asshole.

    I'm sure Vlad has a good laugh about it every fucking day.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    is there no tolls to go through suez or panama?

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    There is for the Panama Canal for sure. To be fair, it isn't free to operate it, but at the same time there is a reason countries want to control waterways and it isn't as an act of charity.

    The most expensive regular toll for canal passage to date was charged in April 2010, to the cruise ship Norwegian Pearl, which paid US$375,600.[127][128] The average toll is around US$54,000. The highest fee for priority passage charged through the Transit Slot Auction System was US$220,300, paid in August 2006, by the Panamax tanker Erikoussa,[129] bypassing a 90-ship queue waiting for the end of maintenance work on the Gatun Locks, and avoiding a seven-day delay. The normal fee would have been US$13,430.[130]

    The lowest toll ever paid was 36 cents, equivalent to $6.75 in 2025, by American Richard Halliburton who swam the Panama Canal in 1928.[131]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Thank god. I was worried the price of oil would go down without a reasonable carbon tax

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Why are they waiting for the 2 months in the agreement, it's clear US won't pay the 300 billion nor removing it's war assets in the region and clearer Israel won't be leaving Lebanon, they're letting the US stock up on air for another strangling session when they could of just made them pass out immediately

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Saudi Arabia should build a pipeline similar to the Alaska Pipeline that lets them transport oil from the Persian Gulf to the Red Sea. There’s already the Sumed pipeline that gets around the physical size limitations of the Suez Canal. A cross-Saudi one would completely neuter this power grab by Iran…

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago

    Happy to pay

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    [–] 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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    Why does Iran keep putting conditions and making bold moves? Did they win a war or something?

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    The end of the British-born free maritime system is upon us.

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    Shart of the deal.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The world have to pay for decades of unjust sanctions on Iran

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    The U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started the war on Iran, but Iran hasn't been entirely undeserving of sanctions, particularly for its human rights abuses and its enormous aid to the Russian war effort (over 57,000 Shahed-class drones have been deployed as of April 2026) in its invasion of Ukraine.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    The USA is responsible for millions of deaths. No sanctions are placed on them. Israel is a genocidal settler-colonial power, with only weak sanctions on certain individuals after it accelerated the genocide after October 7 but no sanctions on the state itself. Europe is selling weapons for Israel to continue genocide and been doing it for decades; no sanctions are placed on Europe. Saudi Arabia is as radical as Iran in applying religion, and there are no sanctions on them. When will you idiots stop acting like the world police?

    There was sanctions on Iranians missiles and drones even before the illegal Russian invasion of Ukraine . So this is pure bullshit. It is was never about Ukraine especially when Israel has good relation with Russia too . Russia remains one of Israel's largest suppliers of crude oil and fuel. In 2010 Israel and Russia has signed a military cooperation agreement including advanced reconnaissance drones

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Is it free to cross the Panama channel?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Is the strait of hormuz man-made?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm afraid we no longer live in a world where it matters. It's good to have rules, but for some reason might is right has become the new standard.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Has that ever not been the case?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I'm no expert, but it seemed like we had more of a rules-based order before. But not everywhere of course, sone countries still projected power outside international law. But international law requires a consensus by a majority. Idk, maybe the only difference is that the US is now threatening us too, and not just the ones they always threatened.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    There are at least half a dozen similar types of straits globally that could have “fees” added to them. Are you suggesting that this would be a good trend to catch on? Literally increases costs of shipping globally. Who do you think will be paying all of these cost increases?

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    To be fair other countries, that were not at all allied with the US, shouldn't have to pay the reparations. I'm sure Iran will determine that though.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I think it will likely be called something besides a toll, and will be a way to remind other countries that the US lost the war that they started and if they want to blame someone that they should blame the US and seek to recoup any costs in future trades and deals with the US.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Remember guys, it's a fee charged for passage through the strait. It's NOT a toll!

    A toll refers to a fee paid for a service or privilege (like using a road or bridge).

    See! Definitely NOT a toll!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Donnie asked if they'd give Melania the keys to his chastity cage back.

    They said they'd unlock him for the night, for about wank on his birthday, but from now on he'll have to pay for each release.

    Way to go, cuckold in chief.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    Trump should tell Iran not to bring in maritime fees. In exchange he will get Israel out of Lebanon.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I feel like this was part of Trump's plan all along. He sees a place where someone could be making money but isn't, and that drives him up the f-ing wall. No idea what Trump's angle on this might be, but considering how much of a hard-on he has for the Panama Canal and how the USA is missing-out on that revenue, I was pretty sure that fees would be charged when the straight of Hormuz reopened.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    No. He's not smart. He thought he'd win this easily and fucked it up like he does everything else. There is no master plan. He just a goddamn moron who routinely loses any negotiation he even bothers to see through to the end.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No disagreement there. He's not a smart man.

    I just have this odd feeling that he can't stand the idea of anyone leaving money on the table, even if that money was never part of any plan ever before. I really think he might have started the war because for no other reason than Iran wasn't charging fees for passage through the straight and he couldn't stand to let it happen. That would be supremely stupid and I think Trump might be just dumb enough to have done it for that reason and only that reason.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    No, he's been talking about presidents in adding Iran to boost their terrible numbers since Obama was president.

    The level of stupid you're attributing to him is still far too generous. You're still assuming he even knew blockading the strait was an option. I assure you, he's too stupid to have considered it. He told kegsbreath to invade, and thought it would go the same as Venezuela.

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    [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    USA Full Surrender

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Trump has caused a precedent to be set that could upend trade worldwide. Freedom of navigation is dead and other straits like Malacca, Bosporous, and Gibraltar could end up tolled by the adjacent countries because of this.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    The Bosporus already has tolls. I’m actually surprised that Hormuz doesn’t… probably the result of those countries having to take a some shit deal imposed by the west… but I’m just hazarding a guess.

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