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[–] 182 points 5 months ago (13 children)

kill a couple billionares and give their wealth to the poor people and they wont be poor anymore and it a lot less killing....

2 or 3 instead of millions, I think that math works out pretty well

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Why kill them? I would rather they compete on a reality TV show to not get fired from a soul sucking benefitless job at their former corporations.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'd watch a reality TV show where people like Musk had to work for a week in a mine, or on an oil rig, doing the hardest jobs. They wouldn't last a minute.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Why can't we, as a society, just take Musk's money and redistribute it? It is absolutely stupid that we allow someone to have more money than he can use while so many people can't afford to live

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Most of those trillions are unrealized gains based on completely unrealistic valuation in "trust me bro" style

    Like Tesla being worth more than all the western car manufacturers combined or xai being "worth" billions even if it's losing billions every year.

    The second he dumps those stocks, the house of cards would crash almost immediately

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I swear people think billionaires have a giant vault of money like Scrooge McDuck. I have had to explain this to people so many times. His wealth is almost entered imaginary and based on the speculative possible future profits of his companies. If he ever tried to convert it into cash the value would go to zero.

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  • Realistically it's not liquid assets like it is for you and me. They purchase items that "appreciate" like land and art, then take loans out using them as collateral to then get them appraised higher to take out another loan to pay off the other one then use the extra for living on. They don't live on dividends or income, it's a game of loans that they have a small army of accountants running. That doesn't mean we shouldn't take those assets. Just that it doesn't translate into immediate cash flows for people.

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  • [–] 88 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Like the Tories did in the UK

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  • [–] 73 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    [serious] because the very existence of the rich and poor means there are systems creating inequality.

    Should you kill the poor, the next poorest group will be sucked of their money and will become poor.

    The problem is not the poor, it's the system that creates poverty.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    For sure. Or put a more direct way, someone needs to be making drinks at Starbucks when the rich-enough-to-survive go there, someone needs to be boiling noodles and chopping onions all day for when they want pasta at a restaurant, someone needs to stand in the sun next to hot asphalt and lay it so they can drive over it.

    And if it's not the too-poor-to-live, it's the next wrung down.

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  • [–] 42 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Then the middle class would be the poor class so we kill them and so on?

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Eventually we would finally kill the 1%...

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    [serious] Why not kill the richest people to make the poor people not poor?

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago

    This is not merely a hypthetical. Vlad Tepes (Yes, The Impailer ) notoriously invited all his poor to a grand feast, instead to kill them all. (I think he burned them alive.) Usually in feudal and early capitalist societies, it was just enough to deny them basic necessities and let them die off, but this often would lead to an outlaw problem as some of the more able poors would turn to banditry and poaching to live.

    In liberal societies, just as we don't outlaw people anymore, there are some known good reasons to support low income, disabled and marginalized groups.

    One of them is to cut off or discontinue the outlaw-to-professional-criminal pipeline. People who are forced to work but cannot for some reason will resort to poaching, banditry, fraud or any number of extralegal revenue-enhancement tactics. Criminal syndicates such as the Crips and the Bloods pull their numbers from demographics that are given no other choice by the society they live in.

    Another reason the state might support it's low-income demographics is in recognition that capitalist societies teem with social roles and efforts that contribute value to the society without compensation. Parenting is the primary one.

    In fact, in the US, as social programs for low-income households have been defunded or rendered inaccessible (such as SNAP and Medicaid), millennials and zoomers are now choosing not to have children, and avoiding romantic relationships, so that the fertility rate is well below the replacement level 2.1 children. We're not just not having kids, we're not having sex.

    Also, thanks to deregulation, and the failure of wages to keep up with inflation, a lot of the US is under-compensated. Much of the poor population in the US have jobs, but they're not being paid a living wage. Infamously, Walmart workers still have to rely on SNAP benefits and Medicaid because their wages are not enough to afford a sustainable living. They still count as poor, and would be swept up if ICE were to start going after poor Americans. And then Walmart would find they have fewer applicants, and might have to offer better wages and benefits. (This happened after the great resignation when workers furloughed during the COVID-19 lockdown found they could monetize their home hobby, or just didn't want their shit job anymore.)

    But this isn't to say these uncompensated or under-compensated people are useless or not contributing to society, just that what they do isn't recognized by the system that rewards value with compensation.

    Curiously, our political class and our ownership class both imagine they could dispose of the poor without ill effects, even as they directly depend upon those people to parent, to maintain homes, to organize communities and yes, even sometimes to do basic labor. At the same time, they're also the ones screeching about how American women are not having enough (white male) babies.

    Just as the US is suffering a shortage of farm hands to harvest crops, thanks to the persecution of immigrant workers, when we deny benefits and services to low-income houses, we'll find that other work we depend on will cease to be done. And that will be accompanied by a new wave of organized crime... or maybe organized resistance against a state that has turned violent against them.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago

    easier to kill the rich

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

    Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

    Conversely, a mature society would assassinate the poor by ensuring the provision of subsistence is readily available to anyone who needs it, and not gated behind employment.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago

    What a modest proposal

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago*

    [Serious] Why not Kill the Hoarders to solve poverty?

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Used to be called starting a war. It’s working for Russia but you really need to have a draft/conscription to make it succeed. The wealthy pay a doctor to say they have bone spurs and the poor go die somewhere else. As a plus some wealthy benefit from an overheated military industrial complex

    But there are side effects, such as generating more poverty by killing off the main income in families

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  • That worked well enough back in ye olden days, but you don't see it much in the modern world. Winning a war isn't just about having enough people on the front line. It's about what kinds and what quantities of weapons and equipment you can get to people that matters. A tiny country with a small population and an advanced industrial economy will wipe the floor with a country with an army of peasant conscripts 10x as large. Keeping the people in uniform equipped and fed is even more important than actually finding people to put into a uniform.

    This matters because every person you send to the front line is another that can't be on the home front working at a munitions plant, or working on a farm, or driving a train to transport war supplies, etc.

    Unless your economy already has structural mass unemployment, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Every draftee you throw away into the meat grinder is one more that can't be supporting the war from the home front.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    Why not bomb USA to stop what is going on right now?

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago

    Eat the rich, spread the wealth amongst the poor..

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Dead Kennedys wrote a song about it

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    Yep. Sounds like a Redditor.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Jonathan Swift you card, I didn't realize you were using Reddit now!

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Poor is being killed, it's just not that vivid

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Reminds me of this bit from Mitchell and Webb https://youtu.be/s_4J4uor3JE

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Then who will work for the rich people? The other rich people?

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Why not kill rich people to solve poverty?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Uh, because they're actual people? Besides, their wealth would just be inherited.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    There’s a lot fewer rich people to kill than there are poor people. Doing the trolley problem on this means the rich people lose.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Do you understand that the trolley problem was more a device for deconstructing ones own morality and reaching the truth of it, than a maxim?

    Like, what if instead of saying how many people would die on each track, we listed total net worth, or number of children raped? The winning class looks totally different there, doesn't it?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Sir, you do understand that I was simply flipping the post to highlight its absurdity? Are you alright?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Please don't assume he/him just because you're on nu-reddit.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Why not kill and BBQ the rich people to feed to poor people?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Disease. The only reason I can think of at this point.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Meh the flames will take care of that.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    …Well, what style of BBQ are we talkin’ here??

    I’m not impoverished but I might colonize a rib or two…

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Theres enough multi-billionaires to have them barbequed whatever damned way you please.

    We should have a version of that pedo tracker website to locate the financially obese. So you know where you're nearest richo is when you get peckish.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's what the prison system is for.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Do people have worth beyond the work they do?

    Yes, obviously

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Efficiency and progress Is ours once a-more

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Because that would be genocide

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    That has to be a bot post, right?

    Who could actually be inhumane enough to just put that thought out there?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    There's a miniscule chance it's intentional irony based on Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal, in which Swift proposes easing babies to solve the Irish famine.

    Buy probably just a dickbag.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I mean why would people for far right narratives?

    Because it's an easy answer with a appearently reasonable thought process.

    The same reason why people online argued Marvel's Thanos had a point

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    Let the hungry eat the rich

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    In progress

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    And this guy is jot banned!?!

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Works in Victoria 3 why not in real life?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    why not kill poor people to solve poverty?

    From whom would you then extract wealth and labour?

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    What do you think is the purpose of denying poor people health care, implementing hostile architecture, and eroding social projects? This has been ongoing for quite a while now.

    Seriously, wishing for something the GOP is already working on with all they got. 🙄

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    The provincial government where I live is doing their best to do exactly that. Fuck conservatives.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I think that's my senator!

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Why not kill people thinking about crime to solve murder?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
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    Charge your phone

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    England had a war on murders and killed them all.

    That is thought to have massively reduced the number of murders for subsequent generations.

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