Come on Valve. Abolish the loot box. Set an example.

The fact that California decided to sue Valve for Counterstrike and not sue EA for FIFA is just blatant targeted harassment. Valve's right for pointing out that any precedent set here would make Pokemon cards and Baseball cards illegal, both of which are actually advertised directly to kids.

Yup, just a nice stark reminder that gaming corporations all suck to some degree.

Children yearn for the mines-ass argument

yeah valve is pretty indefensible here..

People get addicted to drugs, alcohol, and gambling too; that doesn't make it good for them.

I bet they'd enjoy surprises they didn't have to pay for even more.

This is one of the few times I'd agree that Valve is the bad guy. I think other companies are also wrong for this. I think they all should be part of this lawsuit and I think legislation needs to have more repercussions for loot box BS.

I feel like this argument held a lot more weight before polymarket.

Like in casinos where the surprise is that you won nothing

Yeah, people love that, and gambling is addiction is real

Finally, something I can criticise Valve for

I enjoy it when the bank send me a letter saying i may or may not have missed a payment on some loan. Fun surprise!

All you need is to talk to some younger gamers to see how bad CS cases can be. My younger sibling (24 now) was surrounded by case gambling growing up and I personally know some kids highschool aged that are keeping the trend going.

Valvd does a lot of good things for gaming but this is really not one of them.

I sure love me a surprise loot box when someone I know thoughtfully purchases what's inside and gifts it to me.

It’d be nice to have all those boxes I picked up to be free.

Every degenerate gambler I know tells me that it’s fun. Every single one tells me that the reason I don’t like Vegas is because I don’t like having fun.

enjoy these nuts

People enjoy good surprises

But guys, Gaben cares. He made some features in steam launcher just for me!

Yes, they do. And when you charge for surprises that can be of varying value, what do we call that?

Daily reminder that corporation arent your frens. Not even when gabe shaped.

New York Attorney General’s lawsuit against the company, which claims loot boxes in its games such as Counter-Strike 2 promote illegal gambling and threaten to addict children.

Both CS and TF2 are rated M. Children shouldn't be playing them in the first place.🤷‍♂️

to deem loot boxes illegal gambling, because doing so would mean the likes of baseball cards, Happy Meal toys, and even Labubu blind boxes would be considered gambling, too.

You know what, do it. Make it illegal. Fuck MTG and Pokemon card collectors. 🥳🥳🥳

I always thought of steam as neutral evil for being a corporation, but that was just plain wrong of me. Compare them to Digital Extreme and the fact they accidentally created a lucrative loot box and prompt remove from the game. They actually called the mechanic a slot machine instead of surprise mechanic.

From a documentary: https://youtu.be/NA5vT1LooXk?t=1360

"But Homer, the grocery store sells sugar for a dollar a pound. And it doesn't have nails and bits of broken glass in it."

"Those are prizes"

People also enjoy gambling. At first.

I bet they'd enjoy surprises they didn't have to pay for even more.

People enjoy surprises

Not when it's a surprise bill.

"Surprise! You owe money!"

Great, let's get NY to regulate Polymarket and their stock market too!

I'm guessing it's related to cs2/tf2 ? If so why go for a company with 2 games and not EA that has eighty?

Are they struggling to keep the steam machine out of the bullshit ancillary markets before it even launches

And they already made it worse - new "cases" just go over the items 1 by 1 and give you a choice to buy each one right then and there at stupid prices. Wouldn't surprise me if this makes Valve even more of a giant in the end, because these people have absolutely no idea what they are even trying to achieve with these lawsuits.

But guys, Gaben cares about gamers and isn't like the rest of them. They are the cool monopoly!

Okay Valve please go back to doing nothing and winning thanks