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[–] 122 points 5 months ago (5 children)

They knew how to do this in the 80s. Little Shop of Horrors, The Fly, and The Thing for example. All remakes that far surpassed the cheesy originals.

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  • [–] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The 80s version of The Blob is terrifying.

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  • [–] 59 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    The best example is The Thing. The original film in the 1950s was awkward af. But the 1980s remake by John Carpenter was chef's kiss. Then they made a remake of a remake and it was meh.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The 2011 The Thing wasn't so much a remake as it was a prequel to the remake, telling the story from the Norwegian scientists' camp.

    The 1982 John Carpenter remake opened with the last two remaining Norwegian scientists chasing "The Thing" until it reaches the Americans' camp. But they're misunderstood by the Americans. When trying to shoot at The Thing, which has taken the shape of a sled dog, the Americans instead return fire and kill them. Then the Americans explore the Norwegian camp and try to figure out what horrors killed everyone there, while slowly discovering why they were shooting at a dog in the first place.

    The 2011 film shows what happened to the Norwegians before the 1982 remake. You're correct, it wasn't as great of a film (hard to compete with John Carpenter), but it wasn't exactly a remake.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago*

    The worst thing about the 2011 prequel is they had filmed the whole movie with practical effects, like the Carpenter movie, which is one of my favorites of all time. If you've seen it, you may remember very little of these and a lot of cgi.

    The studio or production company or whatever didn't like the practical effects and we got cgi Thing instead. I'd love to see the original effects, and I feel so bad for the people who worked so hard on it just to get scrubbed from the final cut.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Today we see it that way but in the 70s and 80s, the 1950s Thing was hailed as a classic prestige science fiction film. That's why Carpenter's version was trashed at the time. It was dismissed as a grotesque barf bag SFX spectacle that completely disregarded what made the original so good.

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  • [–] 47 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    On a vaguely related note, why aren't we making more movies that take a Shakespeare plot and just stuff it in a different setting without trying to hide it? Like 10 Things I Hate about you was Taming of the Shrew.

    Tell me you wouldn't watch Mechbeth.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    There have been a bunch: Throne of Blood is Samurai Macbeth. Warm Bodies is Zombie Romeo & Juliette

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    The Lion King (1994) is Hamlet.

    "O" (2001) is Othello.

    Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead (1990) is based on two minor characters of Hamlet.

    She's the Man (2006) is Twelfth Night.

    Romeo + Juliet (1996) is a modern-day Romeo and Juliet.

    O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) is Homer's Odyssey. Not Shakespeare, but a brilliant modern retelling of one of humanity's oldest surviving stories. In the same vein as the above mentioned films.

    These are all I can think of off the top of my head. Not to mention dozens of modern Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, and Macbeth retellings over the years. Those three alone are the more popular Shakespeare stories for reinvention on the big screen.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Love Romeo + Juliet. The first gunfight and when Mercutio shows up are highlights.

    For anyone who hasn't seen it, they use tons of the original dialogue, even down to calling their guns swords.

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    How many more versions of Tron do we need?

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  • [–] 48 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    One more.

    • T ron.
    • R eboot.
    • O h fuck, why did we cast Jared Leto
    • N ow we're talking.
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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Tron Reboot, fuck yeah make it happen!

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I would love to see ReBoot (1994) with modern CG. And also a modernized plot, considering we know so much more about computers and the Internet now.

    1994 was when the Internet started to spread publicly around the world and became a thing you could access from your very own home. It was this cool new technology that connected humanity across the globe, but most people didn't really understand it yet.

    So shows like ReBoot captured our fascination with the "Information Superhighway" and built a fantasy/sci-fi story around it. Even if it was horribly inaccurate to how computers and the Internet actually worked.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    A group is remastering ReBoot with the blessings of its creators from the original DAT tapes, so they are pixel-perfect HD transfers that one could not have seen on any TV at the time.

    Look it up on YouTube. Reboot doesn’t need to be remade, the original masters still looks smoking hot. They recovered the widescreen versions, too.

    They’re negotiating the rights to do the same thing to Transformers Beast Wars next.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Keep em coming. Tron: Legacy is my all time favourite.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Instead of the corporatization of storytelling, we should be letting artists tell the stories they want to tell. We should engage with our media more critically and stop chasing nostalgia.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Nice idea, but you'd never get funding. So lean into it. Instead of remaking flops, demake them. Redo Battlefield Earth or Waterworld on a half million dollar budget. As the world watches your film with effects that would make Sharknado blush they will finally ask "what is art?"

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I don't think Waterworld needs improving, but I recognize that I'm in the minority.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah try jumping exploding jetskis into an oil tanker on a half mil budget. The movie rocks.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Sharknado had a tornado filled with sharks with not much more special effects budget, and that was 13 years ago (how the time flies- like sharks in a tornado). We not trying to win Academy Awards for VFX with these demakes.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Waterworld is unfairly maligned and I won't stand for it. Yo you should watch it, seriously

    Sharknado is pretty fun, competently made in my complete amateur opinion.

    What I meant is in Waterworld they did that shit for real.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I have watched Waterworld. There is a lot to like (concept, practical effects, Hopper as the villain), but there is a lot lacking (writing, about something, also Hopper as the villain). They should have finished the script instead of barreling ahead. They needed someone in the room to manage Costner's ego. It's a very mid Mad Max "inspired" film, of which the 80s/90s had many. The Salute of the Jugger/The Blood of Heroes is about on par and it didn't cost the GDP of a small nation.

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    This only works on like mid movies, maybe. You can't do it with a film like Plan 9 from Outer Space or The Room because the jank is part of the appeal. But maybe an actually good version of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow? Sucker Punch, but with a better director?

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Mid movies with an interesting premise. That's the point of OP's post.

    Scarface, Omega Man, The Bird Cage, Thomas Crown Affair, Ocean's 11, Fist Full of Dollars, Vanilla Sky, Wizard of Oz, The Bourne Identity: all remakes. Arguably, the new Dune movies might be considered remakes of a relatively mid original movie, though the new ones are far more tied to the book.

    So taking the 1993 mid kids' movie Rookie of the Year and adapting it to a modem take where the lead is 19 and plays soccer for Arsenal or whatever, would be what OP means. Or redo the 1993 racist POS movie Falling Down. Or Dave, JFC.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Wow I learned some things here.

    Question though - I haven't seen Falling Down in over 20 years. What makes it a racist POS movie? Was I so blind back then?

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    There is no saving Sucker Punch. The fundamental premise of the movie is each rape is a fight scene showing a literal interpretation of a metaphorical struggle. It's not recoverable.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Why? Why is something so easily explained impossible?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Can it be done? Maybe. But the problem with making a metaphorical struggle a physical fight is that the audience for both is drastically different. Many people affected by rape hold a feeling of helplessness about the event. A Zach Snyder 300 style fight scene is literally about exerting control and overcoming. For a person to make such a drastic emotional pivot begs the question were they were ever feeling at all?

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck that, just make more theaters and let drama kids re-enact them with their own creative vision

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's actually a fairly good take - they could make a bunch of old scripts and make them enticing to license, and couple that with a small fund to seed some ultra small-scale productions (by Hollywood standards). I like it.

    Couple that with remakes on whatever gets traction and it could prove short term profitable as well as raise the overall long term value of their vault. (I hate that this analysis is needed, but unless we change copyright law, this buy-in would be a necessary step.)

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Let's have multiple reboots going at the same time. I think it would be great to have like three reboots of Jurassic Park going at the same time with different directors. I want to see a full length Wes Anderson take on the film, but also a Zach Snyder take and maybe a Danny Boyle take competing on the same weekend.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Two words: Easy Money

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Movie mash-ups.

    Back to the Future and Tron.

    Blade Runner and Hawaii 5-0

    Truman and Silo.

    Mrs. Doubtfire and John Wick.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    I kinda think Event Horizon had a phenomenal concept, but had a C+ execution. If there's a movie I think needs a remake, it's that.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Because nobody will fund a huge production that's based on something that didn't do well. Are you nuts? Are you going to go up to people and ask for 50 million dollars or whatever and say we're going to take this thing sucked that nobody liked and we're going to redo it.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I mean, they've made how many Percy Jackson movies? Pretty sure no one likes any of them.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Why does everything have to be a huge production? Paranormal Activity was an effective horror movie, on a budget of $55K. Most of that went to the main characters computer rig, and hardwood floors for the director's house, where they shot the film.

    That's an extreme example, but there is no reason they can't shoot an original idea on a moderate budget, and in fact, they do it ALL the time. The idea that everything is a remake or a reboot is an exaggeration. Look at all the streaming platforms, filled with original material, and begging for more. Obviously, original screenplays are getting shot every day.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The upscale did Lisa a little dirty

    The original Photoshop Lisa Simpson presentation meme from https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lisa-simpsons-presentation

    Comparison between original Lisa Simpson and AI upscale Lisa Simpson

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Dear AI, please upscale this image, but also try to make tons of subtle changes that completely ruin the vibe. Do it in a way that makes it clear that you've been trained on lots of images from The Simpsons, but have no idea what the fuck is going on in any of them.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think I've made this comment elsewhere but Krull, Enemy Mine, and Last Starfighter are the top of my list for an effects refresh.

    There's also no reason why a decent Eragon movie couldn't be made.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Krill, absolutely. The original was fun but not good.

    Enemy Mine was a great movie and should be left untouched.

    The Last Starfighter is an interesting one. I don't think it would benefit from a remake, but because the entire movie is split between the live action scenes and the cheese 80s CG scenes, you could easily replace the space battles with a new version and leave the rest alone.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I want them to make good discworld movies.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The 2 color of magic movies were quite enjoyable

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Disney's been trying. 'Once More With Feeling' is a whole podcast about the reboots. Did you know Disney remade Pete's Dragon and The Shaggy Dog? I didn't.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Practice what you preach, OP

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