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[–] 112 points 7 months ago (35 children)

I’ll just keep downloading music thanks.

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  • [+] -43 points 7 months ago (32 children)

    paying artists nothing is worse than paying them a little

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (19 children)

    I download and then I buy the actual physical media releases from the bands I like. Lots of bands even release their own music for download.

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  • [+] -9 points 7 months ago (18 children)

    what about the bands you don't like? I assume they subscribe to your free with no ads and no money plan?

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    wait why should my money go to bands i dont like

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  • [+] -8 points 7 months ago (16 children)

    Because you're still listening to their music ? Do you buy the merch of thousands of producers who make ambient music? Do I need to have the ambient track hit me in a way that all the others don't before they are worthy of being paid?

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Because you're still listening to their music ?

    Why would anyone download and listen to music they don’t like…?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children)

    https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6048DIIHRMegUg0IHm7T5m

    How do you propose I recompense all the artists on this playlist for example?

    That's 8,902 songs

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah that doesn't look anything like my playlists.

    I typically find new music through recommendations from friends, through other media (games, tv), youtube or radio.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I duno, how do you guys find new music to listen to?

    Sometimes I'll just put a playlist on with 1000 tracks in it, maybe a couple I like, most are ok, some of them i skip, in my world they all get paid, in your world only a tiny tiny fraction of them do

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

    The same way anybody did before Spotify? Listen to something, if you like it then buy it, if you don't then don't.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    just how rich do you think i am? you think i can afford to go through 10’s of thousands of back catalogs trying to find the music im listening to to buy?

    god damn boomers

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    How much have you spent paying Spotify to own absolutely nothing?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    you can see my listening stats here https://www.last.fm/user/ikt123

    Spotify is the only subscription I have and I find it immense value supporting artists and discovering new music

    ty for asking :)

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Doesn't answer the question.

    You can justify paying an evil corp however you want, all of the people you are arguing with here are just telling you there are better ways to support artists and discover music

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago

    yes and they’re all wrong, from the linux losers who pirate and then rarely if ever buy music but virtue signal like they buy music on the daily to the bandcampers who have the music discovery capabilities of limewire and have to spend significantly more time finding music to listen to

    wrong about how much spotify pays out because they don’t know the calculations behind it

    they complain about low payouts while simultaneously using spotify free/ad supported which is bottom tier in payouts to artists, there’s even posts here linking to ways to ad block on spotify free so instead of artists getting a tiny bit they get nothing? and they’re preaching to me ???

    they’re wrong about timelines, record stores and software support

    what a pain i can think for myself 😮‍💨

    the only one i’ll give credit to is qobuz but fuck me are they vegan cunts about it, nyeh im using qobuz because i’m better than spotify users nyeh

    i am not most people, as you saw i listen to a shitload of music, some i like, some i don’t, some im ambivalent about, i support them all the same

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    There used to be plenty of music stores where you could listen to the music before you bought it. They all died because of Spotify. Good job supporting an industry that killed physical media, pushes AI "music" to the masses and enables Nazi podcasters. Nice fucking Job.

    Also, Go to Bandcamp. You can listen to all the music there. Then you can decide to buy the music and in return you get to download the FLAC files. Most artists even let you decide how much you want to pay. You come off as someone who's never taken a step out into the world and just gobbles everything up that is spoonfed to you.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Paying spotify to punish artists and pay industry bodies who in turn funnel money to rightoid hate groups is worse than starving artists.

    Also, most artists get fuck all from Spotify or any of the streamers. Its a dead model and the only thing we're guilty of is felony contempt of business model.

    Fuck it, real fans steal the music and turn up to gigs.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    Paying spotify to punish artists and pay industry bodies who in turn funnel money to rightoid hate groups is worse than starving artists.

    Let me know how suing people for downloading music on Limewire works out for you

    Also, most artists get fuck all from Spotify or any of the streamers

    There's more music released every minute that can be listened to in a lifetime, this is what happens when supply outstrips demand

    Fuck it, real fans steal the music and turn up to gigs.

    That's cool and all but not every artist does gigs and most people don't go to them, so there needs to be something for the other 99% of people, which conveniently, is called Spotify or Qobuz

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)
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    I don't know if it's stealing but I feel better knowing when I listen to music artists get paid

    As someone else pointed out:

    Today, Spotify accounts for roughly 30% of recorded music revenue.

    That's a lot of artists making music we enjoy who are able to eat at night

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Theres also a lot of aritists having their media streamed by these companies who get absolutely zero because they're being robbed by Spotify and the industry at large

    Just because Taylor Swift gets her cut doesn't mean its just and fair.

    Infact, I'd say thats just concentrating wealth in the hands of power again.. So.. uhh.. I'mma keep "stealing" it and buying band merch instead.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    And before Spotify, artists were able to make more money with physical media, that the customers owned for life. Spotify essentially made the situation worse for both the artist and the consumer.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    Damn your memory really goes like this

    1. People going down to the record store to buy CD's

    2. Spotify :D

    You really missed out a whole decade of music piracy and CD sales falling through the floor

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  • [–] 83 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    obligatory fuck spotify. the worst streaming service ever https://youtu.be/x6x5t0cj1sM

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Also the only one with a Linux client

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    It's unofficially done by some Devs in their free time. I low key hate that it's publicised as having a Linux client, other devices also have unofficial clients.

    Tidal also has Tidal-HiFi, an electron wrapper of the web client that enables HiFi music, which is pretty much all I care for a desktop client. It also pays artists much better so... Yeah.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    It also pays artists much better so… Yeah.

    https://tidal.com/pricing

    I can't see any free tier, does this mean you're telling the OP and all free users of Spotify to get fucked?

    It’s unofficially done by some Devs in their free time

    For all intents and purposes it's the same client, I see no difference between the 'official' client on Windows and the Linux version

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    https://github.com/spotbye/SpotiFLAC Why use Tidal when you can just take the FLACs from Tidal for free?

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  • [–] 71 points 7 months ago (20 children)

    I’m more bothered by there being ads inserted in podcasts when I’m a paying customer tbh

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Wait what. I know some platforms for managing podcasts like Anchor shove in ads, sometimes even mid sentence, but this is the first I hear of Spotify itself inserting them

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

    Podcasters that upload to Spotify have the option of inserting ads and making money from this

    Most of my podcasts don't but some do, actually I think the ABC is the only one that does, and it says if you don't want to hear advertising use their podcast app, so maybe it's a way of punishing us for not using their app

    Then again besides the ABC's If you're listening all my other podcasts are french language learning ones...

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    I don't care for podcasts at all, it's just because they're adjacent to the app I use the most that I stumbled upon them, the ones I listen to don't have ads except the abc's if you're listening and it's what, 30 seconds for something I listen to maybe once a month?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Did they stop just grabbing podcasts from the free web and playing them in Spotify? I remember from a few years ago that some podcasts were complaining and willing to sue Spotify for stealing their content.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    https://www.audiobookshelf.org/ For your podcasts

    https://www.navidrome.org/ for your music

    https://symfonium.app/ for playback of both

    https://github.com/spotbye/SpotiFLAC for stealing raw FLACs from fucking Tidal using Spotify metadata because I guess their shit is about as secure as a picnic basket held closed with an anti-bear ziptie.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    https://symfonium.app/ for playback of both

    Does this have a 10/15sec skip button?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah it's very customizable too. The audiobookshelf support is in an early experimental stage though, but it does work

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks, Gonna check this one out then, having multiple play queues sounds awesome. Currently I'm having to use VLC and blackplayer so I can go back and forth between podcasts and music without losing my place.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I don't think so. I use audiobookshelf's companion app on my phone, which does. audiobookshelf manages all the subscriptions and pulling and whatnot, it seems to do a decent job keeping me sane on the commute.

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  • [–] 62 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    You get 30 minutes of ad-free listening, but not all in a row. Sounds like you got 8 minutes worth already; after this ad, you can get another 8 minutes.

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  • [–] 57 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That's supposed to be a comma - "Enjoy 30 minutes of ad, free listening"

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  • [–] 51 points 7 months ago* (17 children)

    Real radio be like: 30 minutes of music free ads. I literally stopped listening to FM radio because I would drive to another town 45 minutes away and not hear a single fucking song.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    At least real radio doesn't collect your information

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Until you dial in to one of those give-away events, sure.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    but that's a very consensual action, they literally have to ask you for those information not just start harvesting in the background

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    I'm a school bus driver and in the mornings the kids beg me to play music on the radio. So I turn it on, set it to "SCAN" and then I don't hear one fucking actual song the entire rest of the ride. Even the local classical station is somehow just people babbling.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Oof. Your bus doesn't happen to have a way of using one of those Bluetooth FM blaster things does it? Just play something off your phone through that tuned to the right station on the radio. The one I drove didn't havr nothing for that, but mine was old as shit. Tho I guess not old enough to have a cigarette lighter port for the kids that smoked.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Our buses have an aux input jack. I just don't ever feel like messing around with an aux cable and USB-C adapter just for 15 minutes of music. Although i would really enjoy making my elementary school kids listen to Shpongle.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    What do you do when you're not driving a school bus?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Not a bus driver but I've seen enough of them to answer this question.

    When they aren't driving the bus, they are either waiting for kids to get on or off the bus or they are briefly investigating who threw the stray projectile that hit them before they pulled over but usually settle for the complete silence as each kid pretends to not remember what throwing even is, let alone admit who threw anything. That silence never lasts more than a minute after they start driving again, though sometimes it will only be whispers for a while if the bus driver screamed in rage or broke down in tears.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    When I was 19 I was in a band with this really strange kid. He was super charismatic though, and just seemed to make friends with anybody he met. One of those people happened to be this 40 year old bus driver. We went over his place one time to smoke a joint, and he showed us his grow room. This was in like 2005 or so, so all very illegal. He got in my face about not telling anybody and how I better not be a narc. Anyway... Then we ate some pot brownies and watched a movie. The brownie I ate wasn't doing anything so I ate another and learned a very important life lesson about edibles. If you're not feeling the first one, don't eat the second one. I was high as fuck. Banished to the shadow realm, some might say. Took a few hours to regain my composure and walked home. It was a weird fuckin night.

    So yeah. Probably anecdotal but "what do school bus drivers do when not driving a school bus?" - grow weed, and eat pot brownies with teenage punk rockers and watch movies.

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    30 minutes of ad free music. Not all in a row though.

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