Are there gaming screens like that though? Cause I thought commercial monitors were all slow response.

Great now gimme one that's reasonably priced

But do commercial monitors make good tvs?

Any TV which lets you skip Wi-Fi in the setup can be a dumb TV. Most smart TVs except Roku/Fire TV let you.

Every invention this century....

Google TV ones have an "apps only mode" which removes the ads from the home screen.

Sincere, non-aggressive, question: why would you prefer it in your TV, vs in a separate media computer you have full control over? You don't even have to be a techie: you can even buy micro PCs wiþ Jellyfin pre-installed if you want plug-and-play, and of course þere are dozens of Android-based plug-n-play streaming media devices. Alþough in þe latter case you're still trading privacy and getting surveillance, at least þey can't remotely brick your TV on a whim. Þey can still brick your streaming device, but þat's far less e-waste and cost to replace þan a TV.

Why do you like having it in þe TV? Purely convenience? Better all-around integrated experience? Simplicity?

Now it is a dumb tv with a 30 second boot up time and a clunky menu for changing inputs.

You're still paying for the components, so an out-of-box dumb TV would be cheaper (we saw this when smart TV's first launched, they were ~$30-40 more then the dumb versions). You still are at the mercy of whatever board/OS gets installed. And Microsoft is constantly trying to force users to make an online account to use the PC, it's only a matter of time before TV makers require WIFI to do initial setup. Plus there's ways to still get online, like if they partner with Xfinity who use customer routers (the ones that get rented) for others to use... stuff like that would eb all to easy to do. Or heck, partner with Amazon. They deliver everywhere, so the trucks are driving around, there's ways they could auto join you to a network.

The "just don't" doesn't send a message other than "we need to try harder because we need to steal that data". Stop buying TVs is the only message that might work.

It really is that simple.

If the TV allows you to use it without connecting to the internet.

Just don't buy the smart ass products my dude.

Proprietary standard that’s worse than modern DisplayPort specs. Adds cost without adding features.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Comparison_with_HDMI

Mostly licensing. Every single hdmi port manufsctured requires a fee, and the closedness just holds tech back.

It is a proprietary closed protocol with built in DRM. The HDMI Forum is not consumer friendly, charges royalties to manufacturers for the productiom of HDMI capable devices, and HDMI has no performance advantage over Display Port.

Enemy of your freedom. Doesn't even let AMD support 2.1 on Linux so Steam Deck or Steam Machine cannot support 2.1 with open source drivers! That's why it's officially only HDMI 2.0

The connector is flimsy, will wear out in applications where you connect and disconnect it often and the whole standard is controlled by big tech and they abuse that power to hinder open source efforts.

1. It has it's DRM implementation, that, albeit weak and useless, was designed to manage what you can or cannot plug these cords into, e.g. capture cards. That's probably an advantage for Sony and others.
2. HDMI specs are <10m or bust, so for big rooms or video prod on HDMI you need amplifiers. They may be included in the cord itself, but that makes it one-directional, lol.
3. Not to say that HDMI cords are expensive and you also can't press their ends to the lenght needed yourself, unlike what you can do with SDI cords.
4. No mechanisms preventing them against just popping out from the socket. Anecdotally, I think there's something weird with their construction maybe, that in my experience made metal connectors suddenly come off completely around 5 times this year, while no other connectors suffered that faith, even dumb VGA that are prone to have their pins wrecked.
5. HDMI is rigidly limited to what it can with what standard and has no interesting things going for it imho, at least no daisy chaining multiple displays one after another that DP can.

You gotta start somewhere. If this sells, there might be another.