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Someone finally did it: a high-end TV with a DisplayPort connection actually is coming this year, including 4K 180Hz support (www.techradar.com)
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[–] 356 points 7 months ago (76 children)

Now gimme one without smart tv bullshit

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  • [–] 120 points 7 months ago (18 children)

    They exist, but they're called commercial monitors

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  • [–] 63 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    Are there gaming screens like that though? Cause I thought commercial monitors were all slow response.

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  • [–] 37 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    I've got a 43" Aorus 4k gaming screen for my desktop. 144Hz, freesync, 2 HDMI's a DisplayPort and a USBC. There is a 48" OLED as well, but I didn't have the space for it at the time.

    After using a 4k 43" for a monitor for a few years, I definitely both recommend it AND wish companies would make 8k ones.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Does anything useful even come in 8K at this point? I saw it as a spec last time I went television shopping, but it seemed like something that wouldn't be useful for another decade.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    This ad brought to you by the gigabyte marketing division

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Honestly, nah. The screen is awesome, don't get me wrong, but the fact that I had to replace the main board after 1.5yrs, just out of warranty, means I definitely recommend people don't buy it. Luckily I found someone on eBay that dropped theirs, shattered the screen, and sold the internal boards for $50 shipped.

    I only brought it up because it fits the requirements and I recommend the format. 4k 43"+ or 8k is goated on desktop.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    He should have said commerical displays, which are basically TV's rated for long continuous use e.g. digital signage.

    I haven't dealt with them in some time, but I would imagine many, if not most, do not include consumer smart tv features, although they probably have other embedded smart tech to help with stuff like signage.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    No I understand he’s talking about displays, I think I must have backspaced that and undid it at some point. But those commercial displays are not built with fast response rates because they’re literally just built to display one image at a time. Using them for gaming would suck.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Great now gimme one that's reasonably priced

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Check b stock.

    Typically its scratch & dent, sometimes demo or trade show use.

    Still gets a warranty (which is better on commercial in most cases), and usually a pretty sizable discount. If you can find a local distributor, they will sometimes sell off prior year stock for a really good price.

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  • [–] 59 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (37 children)

    The smart TV part is conceptually okay, but the bullshit is unspeakable. I actually like that TVs have apps for the streaming services and stuff, if they didn't have to be evil about how they implement it. But they're evil, so here we all are, wanting completely dumb TVs.

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  • [+] 30 points 7 months ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I don't agree. I don't need my TV to keep up with the latest software like I do my computer. I'd like it to load apps for the streaming services and search YouTube videos. If it can do that today, it can do that five years from now.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    But if a codec change or such happens (like to AV1 or h.265), it might not, we have an older 4k smart tv (Sharp Aquos LC-60UE30U) that can't handle 4k streaming without dropping to single digit fps.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Fewer devices, my TV is mounted to the wall, so fewer cords. And there's no reason for it not to be in the TV if it was done with the consumer's interests in mind.

    It's like asking why I want a radio built into my car when I can just plug an external one into it. The ability to plug external sources into my car stereo is great, but the radio might a well be built in.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Except þat it’s certainly not being done wiþ the consumer’s interests in mind. It’s done for surveillance capitalism, and it’s done for control.

    That was my whole point. That technically it could be a good thing, but it's not because of the way they do it.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I'm an old guy with a CS degree. I watched the Internet and the web come into existence. I had so much excitement and hope for it. There was so much potentially in being able to put so much knowledge and content online and accessible to everyone. To have applications you could run from a common interface. I thought it would be so glorious.

    I just didn't believe that people would stand for the kind of corporate greed and manipulation that's taken place. It's one of the saddest things ever.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    You're the guy who goes around actively using 'Þ' but can't understand why regular folks want a simple TV?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Once I learned its primarily to poison AI I was for it.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    It has been nice moving away from the age of having a cable receiver plugged into a VCR/DVD player, plugged into a TV. Adding any new hardware feels like a regression in that regard.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Google TV ones have an "apps only mode" which removes the ads from the home screen.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Not sure I could trust a TV made by Google.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Google TV is an operating system which other manufacturers like Sony and TCL preinstall.

    I think its the best option because it has a basic TV mode which lets you use the TV with just the antenna and HDMI ports, and if you do decide to use the smart TV features, you can use apps only mode to disable the home screen ads as well as sideload apps.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Now it is a dumb tv with a 30 second boot up time and a clunky menu for changing inputs.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    Not on my experience. I simply set my LG OLED to HDMI 1 and leave it there. I don't own a Blu Ray player nor any game consoles, so one input for my PC is all I need. TV boots up like a monitor and immediately displays the desktop. I never see the smart crap ever.

    If you have to for your particular model, you can always get a service remote and put the TV into Hotel Mode, then from that menu, disable the smart features completely, and program the TV to default to your input of choice every time you boot it up. Every TV in existence has Hotel Mode, and thus is capable of doing this.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You're still paying for the components, so an out-of-box dumb TV would be cheaper (we saw this when smart TV's first launched, they were ~$30-40 more then the dumb versions). You still are at the mercy of whatever board/OS gets installed. And Microsoft is constantly trying to force users to make an online account to use the PC, it's only a matter of time before TV makers require WIFI to do initial setup. Plus there's ways to still get online, like if they partner with Xfinity who use customer routers (the ones that get rented) for others to use... stuff like that would eb all to easy to do. Or heck, partner with Amazon. They deliver everywhere, so the trucks are driving around, there's ways they could auto join you to a network.

    The "just don't" doesn't send a message other than "we need to try harder because we need to steal that data". Stop buying TVs is the only message that might work.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    You’re still paying for the components, so an out-of-box dumb TV would be cheaper

    Based on the components alone, yes, but this is capitalism.
    The reason smart tvs are cheaper than that is because of ad revenue.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I got one a few years ago that had a setting to automatically go to a specified input when the TV started (similar to how normal TVs used to work).

    My only mistake was leaving the TV connected to the network, as it updated and caused some hassle recently.

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