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[–] 112 points 7 months ago (23 children)

Nothing's stopping you from burning a CD right now. But ultimately, these kinds of nostalgic memories are less about the tech itself and more about remembering the happy times of youth. Bringing back the burned CD won't bring those back I'm afraid.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago* (15 children)

    What’s stopping me is that I haven’t had a CD burner in like 12 or 15 years. But you’re right about the rest of it.

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  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    A tiny laser and steady hands should work

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    External USB ones are free in boxes of Frosted Flakes these days.

    I have a genuine honest to goodness 5.25" bay mounted Blu Ray burner in my tower right now. Hey, you never friggin' know. It comes in handy every once in a while. There's a machine in my basement with an LS-120, a Zip drive, and a 5.25" floppy drive in it that all still work. Occasionally I still find myself needing to get some monumentally important ancient file off of some kind of floppy disk or other for somebody.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I was soo excited about ls120. Zip drive capacity in a 1.44 MB disc format with backwards compatibility. How could it not become the next big thing?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Lol, oh I know. I just really never liked burning CDs anyway. I had a mini disc player, lol.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Nice, I found the one other MiniDisc user on Lemmy. It's an honour to meet you.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I really thought they were the future. I should have known better.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Actually..

    I got married seven years ago. We could bring our own music to the ceremony, but it had to be on audio CD.

    None of our modern computers have any optical drive, but we have an USB DVD burner. We just couldn't get any modern system to complete a burn, it just kept failing halfway through.

    After many hours I installed OS X on my MorphOS PowerBook G4 from 2005 to use the built-in drive and burn through iTunes.

    It used to be a cakewalk. Now not so much.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You probably had a faulty DVD burner then. I did it within the last year, using my modern computer and a cheap external drive.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I've recently gotten into vinyl, and what I've learned is that convenience is often antithetical to experience. When just about every song ever made is immediately available to me at a moment's notice, I stop caring; I'll listen to a song I like for a little while then move onto the next one without thinking about it, and I won't form any lasting memories along the way. When music is something that takes time and effort to enjoy, I have a chance to form a memory about my enjoyment, and when I have to physically find a song in order to listen to it, it gives that song much more meaning than if I spent less than 5 seconds typing the name in on Spotify.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Environmentally awful though.

    Ingredients are terrible and they are bulky and heavy to transport.

    Makes more sense to have your own server and make a sleeve or carboard qr code that "plays" your selection to give you the best of both worlds.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    I agree with your point. However that's not what the article is about. It's about the social and aesthetically engaging aspects that come with physical media compared to the utilitarian services where music is presented like "tap water", and the sense of indifference that's created through abundance, hurting the artists financially.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Yeah, I miss the days of making my own mixes, sharing music with friends, etc.

    I recently ripped a bunch of CDs and one of the batches was my folio in my car. I do not fucking miss having to handle CDs. The slightest scratch on the foil and it's done, scratches on the plastic and it's done. You had a hour and some minutes max that you could pack into one is you didn't have an mp3 capable player.

    I love getting music on CDs, I love listening to an album straight through and the hidden song at the end coming after a bunch of silence, and making a mix that flows like a God. But it's so much nicer having all of my music ripped on my server.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Bring Back the Clay Tablet— They’re a love language. And a reminder of the hope we once had.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Still better use than take aways, product wrappers, glitter and plastic lined paper.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    Sure you can burn a CD, but I think I have nothing to play them anymore. My car (2020) does not have a CD player anymore. Nor my PC nor my laptop have one. I may have in my drawer an old BD reader DVD burner/reader with a SATA plug or something, I remember I plugged it on my laptop with a USB adapter yearsssss ago to rip my LOTR BD. It has been used 1 time in like 10 years.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (25 children)

    Cassettes would like to have a word.

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    It's weird though. Pencils were never a good way to transport tape. It was also investigated that only certain Japanese pencils fit as these are bigger. In my memory we always used a BIC ballpoint pen which fits perfectly.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I find that most my old cassettes still play, can't say the same for the CDs.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    It’s the opposite for me. I live in a place that gets fairly humid during different times of the year so cassettes don’t often make it If they were left in a car or a garage or something similar. Whereas most of the CDs that survived my teenage years still work.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    imho in a weird way cassettes were better/more fun. Like wanting to record a song you like so you'd sit in front of the tape deck for hours on end listening to the radio waiting for that ONE song to come on so you could record it. It would take you hours, maybe even days, to make that mixtape of songs you didn't own.

    Also when I was a kid I had one of those fisher price tape decks that had the microphone attached to it. I wanted to make a mix tape of all my favourite songs from my NES games or games that I would rent (like the Battletoads theme song, or the music from the Batman videogame) so I would pop the game in then hold the microphone up to the TV speaker and record the songs.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (10 children)

    Cassettes are making a comeback much like vinyl but to a lesser extent. I’ve got 600 or so cassettes and probably 3/4 of them were made in the past 8 years.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Vinyl made sense because of its high fidelity. Cassettes do not make sense unless you enjoy dogshit audio quality

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Incorrect. I have three NAD 6300s and a Nakamichi Dragon, and with metal tapes it’s transparent to digital. Shit even good type II nearly transparent. Tapes do not sound “dogshit”. Unlike vinyl, you can easily experiment with the many varieties of tape out there and master your own cassette recordings. It’s like rolling tubes in an analog amplifier. Yes, it’s not perfectly transparent to digital on a cheap type I tape, but the warmth of a high end type I rounds off some of the harshness of modern tracks. YMMV, it’s not for everyone, but I think it’s pretty fucking cool.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    This is a rare setup. Kind of vintage audio unicorn.

    You still have a noticeable noise floor and medium limitations as equalizer, though ("warmer").

    99.999% of decks and surviving tapes do sound like dogshit.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Nah, this is wrong. Cassettes don’t sound like dogshit and most vintage decks sound great when properly calibrated.

    Modern $20 Chinese portables sound like ass, I’ll give you that.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    OK, well, you have a lot more tolerance for tape hiss and compression artifacts and muted highs than I do, the only quiet tapes I’ve heard were big fat studio tapes when I had access to a research studio.

    I spent so many years trying to get a decent field recording out of the best portable recording (cassette) decks that I may be a little traumatized. DAT recording was a revelation, even with horribly unreliable decks.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I mean reel tape kills vinyl and cassette. It surpasses or equals digital in high $$ situations.

    *its mostly about the mastering

    Yes, its clunky huge and expensive and has a limited catalog. But once you've heard one you'll want more.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, no doubt. Reel to reel is the ultimate analog media.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I love showing it to people who havent heard great audio.

    But yeah, its so expensive. The best part tho is unlike records, tapes are very robust if you keep them in normal temperatures and away from magnets. No surface noise, and most tapes the hiss is hardly noticeable especially on anything 15 IPS.

    The good part about the limited catalog is you're going to always get super high quality from it because its so limited and expensive to do

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    There was a certain intentionality to burning a CD that a Spotify link just can't replicate. Spending an hour picking the perfect songs to fit exactly 80 minutes, and then handwriting the tracklist... it was a real labor of love. It’s a shame that convenience has replaced that personal touch.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Ok clearly it's not literally about making CDs and people saying "just make your own streaming service" are both missing the point and vastly over estimating the capacity of the average person.

    The important part that's largely missing from today's music environment is the personal touch and investment. Many people, as the author says, just comfortably coast through an algorithmic smoothie of familiar music. That is inferior to a friend saying "I made you this mix" and then you actually listen to it, attentively, more than once.

    It doesn't have to be a CD. It can be a zip file. But the intention and focus was important.

    I'm an outlier in that I never let "the algorithm" choose what plays. Sometimes I still make mixes for friends, though lately they've just been a collection of links. That process of choosing is meaningful. My friend still listens to the mix I made for them when their job laid them off, sometimes.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    It can be a zip file.

    Or just a playlist you made on one of those streaming services. Ain't no difference.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    In audio circles stamped cd’s have been making a comeback. It’s much like the last decades vinyl revival.

    It’s not the older generations getting nostalgia, it’s the younger generations looking for ‘experience’ over content. Buying a physical thing, storing on the shelf, having a visible collection of disks to show off.

    Additionally it is a revenue stream for artists, where despite the costs of mastering and pressing a cd, they can get more money from a cd release than from streaming. So artists have been incentivized do make releases a big deal since they money goes straight to them. It’s a bit like a ‘buy me a coffee’ but with a physical item.

    You can buy brand new cd players, not just blueray players or vintage units that need service.

    It’s a thing.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    In terms of nostalgia-buying, we millenials are now the older generation. I doubt it's all the 15-20yo who are buying CDs.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I went looking for data and it seems cd sales are on the decline again. So my info is outdated. It looks like it was trending younger with Taylor swift and k-pop titles as the top sellers. It appears to be less of a revival and more of a fad.

    It looks like vinyl is still growing in 2026 even while cd decrease again.

    It’s a bummer since artist can get a bigger cut of physical media sales and cd are easier to make than a records.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    It’s a bummer since artist can get a bigger cut of physical media sales and cd are easier to make than a records.

    Btw, what about digital album sales? On Amazon, for example, you can buy a CD digitally. You just get MP3s or similar, but it costs the same as the CD, just without the physical media.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Bring back that whole timeframe. We weren’t all so stuck up our phone’s ass.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, growing up as a teen it was the opposite. I was burning CDs and had this phone stuck up my ass

    Nokia brick dumb phone

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    CDs and had this phone stuck up my ass

    Kids will think you're joking, but the vibration on those things was a proper... well, vibrator.

    Nothing like getting a text from your crush with your phone in your crotch for her/him having indirectly caused you sexual pleasure.

    (Also we did actually have contests on who'd throw their phone the highest without failing to catch it. And the throw were easily 5-15 meters high. And lots of misses. But not a single disabled phone. Small scratches on the covers maybe, but you could also buy new covers so it was no problem.)

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Posted in r/teachers yesterday:

    I took my own children to a park, there were about 8-10 kids running around between the ages of 1 and 6. The children were feral. The parents were on their phones the entire time. None of the bad behavior was noticed, let alone corrected. A three year old boy sat in a tunnel and screamed and pushed anyone who came near. Mom was oblivious. She wasn’t watching her kid, she was on her phone. Another girl (about 5) was being extremely rough around some of the toddlers (kicking towards them, jumping over a one year old at one point). Her dad didn’t correct the behavior. He didn’t see it. He was on his phone. I could go on. Besides the occasional glance, parents were completely disengaged from their children.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    No, we need transferable digital licenses. I want to both own my software and download it on the go

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I never stopped. How else am I going to burn PS1, Dreamcast, and 360 games?

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    What a dumbass article. It's way too easy right now to burn a CD, we need another 25 years before were nostalgic about this one.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    I think the majority of people at this point don't have a computer with a CD / DVD burner anymore. And at least over here the supermarket also does not sell blank CDs / DVDs anymore.

    Most people would have to go out of their way to acquire the means to burn their own CDs

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I disagree. Find a prebuilt PC that ships with a drive. Extremely rare unless you custom order it.

    On my desk sits a usb CD/DVD writer. Majority of my non tech friends might have an old bluray or DVD player laying aroung or a PS3/4.

    With your statement, you can say floppies are too easy to burn since you can buy a usb writer and a stack on amazon.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    What no love for the mixtape? We have to go straight to CD?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not sure if they've degraded, but I've got one of those CD-R spindles with a few disks left on it somewhere

    I could burn a mix CD this afternoon if I felt like it?

    Thing is if I gave half of the people I know a mix CD I'm pretty sure they wouldn't actually have a means of listening to it

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Just brought out my old dvds and put them on hard drive. They were burned 18 years ago and used organic dyes. I recovered avout 50% of them. Old me should have spent more on nonorganic discs... but old me couldn't afford them back then, so he gets a pass I guess. Plus new me can easily dl most of those discs in an hour or two now.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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    I was in Publix the other day when this really eccentric wizard looking lady approached me and had a story about how she needed a few bucks. She said she had music for sale that she made herself. I said well how do I purchase it? She reached into her bag and said “ I’ve got cds “ I gave her a few bucks and was on my way feeling good. Got into my fucking car and realized oh shit I’m not a teenager anymore in my old car with a cd player like I thought I was for a solid 10 minutes after buying the damn thing. Got home and had to dig out a cd player for my laptop. Music was weird as fuck which I enjoyed. She bought a jug of cough syrup with the money lmfao

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    I think people undervalue cd/dvd/bluray. Up to this day it's best format for giving away data like family photos.

    With any usb device there's much larger security risk. Also people want to get storage back.

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    A Certificate of Deposit. A kind of simple interest bank account adjacent in form factor to bonds. In simple terms, you give the bank an amount of money for a set amount of time, say a year, during which you can't withdraw the money without paying a penalty. When the term is finished the bank returns the money plus an amount of simple interest. They often bear higher interest rates than savings or money market accounts and are FDIC insured.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    You can get one at a bank. It is short for certificate of deposit. It's basically a high interest savings account that is difficult to access until it matures. They are at or above 4% now at some banks, so it is a relatively safe investment that is slightly higher than inflation.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    It seems to me like the world has had 3 phases:

    • Phase 1: People own media on records, tapes, etc. because that's the only way to listen to what you want whenever you want. The only alternative is radio, where you listen to what the DJ thinks you should hear. If you buy something once, you can listen to it whenever you want forever. (Or at least as long as the medium holds up)
    • Phase 2: It was relatively easy to get the media you wanted on demand, but it wasn't always legal, because the copyright cartels were used to a certain way of doing business and didn't like disruption. During this phase people still bought read-only media in stores. But, they also sometimes bought blank media and filled it up from their computers at home.
    • Phase 3: Everything is now online, and you no longer own media. In this phase you can listen to / watch whatever you want, but you don't get to own anything, and you have to pay monthly if you don't want your media viewing / listening to be interrupted by ads. In this phase, media you love can just disappear if someone loses the license to stream it, or the copyright owner decides to pull it or modify it. In this version someone like George Lucas can decide that the version of Star Wars you grew up on should change, and you now have to accept his new version.

    Unfortunately, long-term storage hasn't kept pace with short-term storage and bandwidth. You can make someone a "mix tape" that's a USB stick, but if someone puts it on a shelf it might not be readable in 5 years. You could save the original version of Star Wars to a NAS. But, if your friend wants to borrow it, it's not as easy as grabbing a case off the bookshelf and handing it over.

    I keep hoping that one of these "crystal storage" mechanisms takes off. Then we can much more easily be data hoarders, keeping everything, and not relying on a continued subscription to a streaming service for our favourite media.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    How 'bout we tweak that just a tiny bit and use flash drives instead?

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