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[–] 185 points 8 months ago* (16 children)

the fact that Gabe said "piracy is a service problem" fifteen fucking years ago, and none of these fuckwits in content distribution have learned this at all is a source of continuous astonishment to me.

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  • [–] 141 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I havent pirated a single game since i installed steam 20 years ago

    There was a short period of time where netflix was good enough so i didnt pirate movies or tv shows either

    It's 100% a service problem

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Same story here.

    Loved Netflix at first. I used to pirate a lot of tb shows and movies and then completely stopped once Netflix became decent.

    Then they turned to shit and I'm back to pirating.

    But not only that, I'm actually PAYING to pirate content because its a service that just combines all content from Netflix, Disney, apple, etc into one singular app that you can stream from any android device with the app.

    It can have pretty shit quality sometimes, but at least I can watch it.

    I will pay for shit if it's easy access.

    Fuck Netflix, Amazon, apple, Disney, etc. greedy fucks.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    The funny thing is, i actually have legit access to some paid streaming services. But because i refuse to download their app or connect my tv to the internet, i'm limited to 720p in the browser....

    So i just pirate the shit anyway

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    The last game I pirated was Driver: San Francisco a couple years ago, because you couldn't (still can't? maybe?) buy it anywhere except for like, second-hand physical media, and I am not going through that hassle. I can't even remember the game I last pirated before that (Probably Sims 4, because fuck EA and fuck that laundry list of DLC -- but I can't be sure).

    Music, movies, and TV shows, though? Oh yeah, baby, that's a weekly activity now. Netflix I dumped many years ago when the fracturing of content to twenty different streaming services happened, and Spotify I dumped just this last year for a few different reasons (the CEO donating to AI weapons programs, introducing a fuckass AI DJ, ICE ads, getting fed up with songs I either can't find or can find but aren't available in my region, or could listen to and enjoyed and then having them suddenly become unavailable, etc...)

    I'm sure, someday, Steam will enshittify. Probably shortly after Gabe dies -- and it will be a dark day for me and millions of gamers worldwide. But for now, I'm more than happy to let Gabe empty my wallet with sales and convenience, because the gettin's been good for a couple decades and will likely remain so for another couple. I can't say the same for music, movies, and TV; I don't know if I'll ever end up paying for them again unless the distributors involved sort their shit out.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The only games I pirate are those that either :

    _ are completely abandoned by their publishers and literally unavailable through other means

    _ are stuff I already bought long ago and this is the most convenient way to get them to run (I have occasionally bought games again if it was cheap and convenient)

    _ have turned to such shitty business models I don't want to give a cent to the publishers (and I almost don't even do that one anymore since usually they've found a dozen more ways to turn the game to shit anyway).

    So yeah. Totally agree with the service problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    There is a lot of SEGA product that I would buy, if it was DRM-free. Shin Megami Tensei, Sonic Origins, and more. I don't let DRM and rootkits onto my PC, so I either pirate that stuff or just engage with someone else's product. Either way, SEGA has lost hundreds of dollars.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Same for me with Steam. I used to pirate everything gaming and only once I got Steam and a steady job, pirating stopped.

    As for media, nop. Pirating never really stopped. When using Netflix is much more annoying than using myflixerz.to, you wont be coming back to pay for a service that is fundamentally crap.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago

    In the grand scheme of things, they don't really care about piracy.

    Yes, they could greatly reduce piracy by making their service affordable, available, and convenient ... but they would lose more profits from doing that than they currently do from piracy. They know enshittifying their service will result in increased piracy ... but they also know that it will result in extracting increased money from the people who do pay. And, overall, their profits are still higher despite the higher piracy levels.

    (Heck, in some ways piracy has been shown to be overall beneficial. To some degree, it's free advertising, helping media spread through word of mouth. And maybe while they missed out on a media sale or subscription, they still end up making money from that pirate with a merchandise sale or something.)

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, I agree it still is. Like I am not going to subscribe for $10+ a month for a single show on a single streaming service. I need at least 3 for about $6 for it to even seem reasonable at a minimum. Like if the more streaming services were more like Movies Anywhere, I would love that. Like this service works better for me, I will give them my money type shit.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The recording industry did.

    Who pirates music anymore. Everyone has one of the streaming services for it, because they all have functionally all of the music. There's no exclusive releases on one platform or another.

    Well, maybe there is, I haven't looked in a while. Maybe they're enshitifying that too.

    Somehow the TV/movie shit heads can't figure the same thing out.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    I assure you, the enshittification of music streaming services is already here. Even before Spotify went completely to shit there were some things that just couldn't be found on the platform, and others still that I used to listen to suddenly becoming unavailable.

    I, and a lot of other people, pirate music now because (among other reasons) having a hard drive full of MP3s or FLACs is something no corporation can arbitrarily decide to take away from you at any time.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Everyone has one of the streaming services

    Yeah, I use Navidrome server. You can even host it on your phone in Termux (assumes Android). And I mean, in the easiest damn way possible.
    apt install navidrome, and run navidrome. Though I recommend checking out the config options.
    At least the Address option, Android has no firewall.

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  • [–] 52 points 8 months ago* (8 children)

    I tried to buy digital copies of an album the other day and couldn't because it was only on streaming services and DRM'd to all shit, so I just pirated it instead.

    Ended up with some high quality flac too...

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Have you tried Soulseek? I finally got it recently, it's kinda amazing. Like old school limewire or whatever but with fewer (no?) viruses. :3

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    No I've mostly just used jackett and qbt's default searchers. I used to use tixati in the past and that was great, with share searching and text chat communities

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Do yourself a huge favor and download Nicotine+ (which is a client for Soulseek, you can also use the official SoulseekQt I guess but it's old and not as feature-rich). That and Spek to make sure you don't get any fake bitrate files from people.

    The only two real downsides to Soulseek, imo, are the fact that a lot of the chatrooms are basically unmoderated IRC (So many nazis to ignore. So many.), and the problem of fake bitrates. The huge upside is you can find pretty much any and everything on there if you wait for the right people to be online to share it. I've found quite a few rare albums and such that I couldn't get from my usual gettin' places.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    The unmoderated chatrooms can be a bit crazy, but you are able to mute users which is nice. Also, it kinda reminds me of the olden days of the internet...I'm a millennial so it's kinda nostalgic lol.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Some artists sell their music DRM free themselves, generally via their Merch Store.
    Failing that, Qobuz has a store alongside their streaming subscription and I believe it's DRM free.

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago

    Yo ho ho. If purchase is not ownership, then piracy is not theft.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    "The content isn't available in your region"

    You have the content. I want to watch the content. But nooooo, I have to turn my VPN on and pretend I'm somewhere else, and you know I'm not really there because I can't magically materialize half-way across the world in 1 minute.
    So what's the point? Just let me watch the damn content.

    I'm sure these region locks make a lot of sense for the suits when it comes to paying royalties and whatnot but as a consumer it's infuriating. Archaic ass bullshit.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Its tied to royalties, which you mentioned, which are usually tied to archaic trade deals. The landscape may change after WW3 is done.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

    Wife and I live in Germany, but still have some streaming services from our home country in Eastern Europe.

    We started a Scream movie marathon on the weekend to catch up on the series, before we watch the newest one in cinema.

    We watched the first 2, and half of the 3rd on 28th February Saturday on one of the streaming platforms (SkyShowtime). The next morning (1st of March), the movies were not available anymore.

    We finished 3 and watched 4 on Amazon Prime, but within that we had to start a separate subscription for horror movies.

    5 was only available in German with no subtitles, so I had to search for another source. Ended up creating a Paramount+ account, downloaded the app, and watched the movie there.

    Then back to Amazon Prime, where finished the 6th Scream movie, before heading to the local cinema.

    This was the last straw, we decided to go back to sail the seas after a decade of streaming service subscription. Next weekend I will take some time to figure out the setup we need to make this happen safely, as a lot has changed since I left it behind.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If you want online streaming: fmhy

    If you want torrenting, make sure to bind vpn to client

    If you want media server, use jellyfin with arr stack

    Happy sailing :)Β 

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yep. I pirated when I was young because doing things "proper" was more difficult. Then they started having reasonable fees for services that were easy to use without ads.

    But now the prices are outrageous, the ads are back, and everything is so fragmented. Piracy is the better user experience again. I was about to set up a NAS and start sailing again, but now storage prices are jumping.

    I may just start going outside.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Completely relatable. The prices keep going up with more and more restrictions while being enshittified with ads, tiered service, and paying twice to watch something - the streaming service fee and then a rental fee on top of that, for a movie that might be a decade or more old.

    Arr…fuck that.

    This is exactly why people fled cable. It was completely predictable the streaming services would enshittify just like cable.

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    [–] 25 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Enshitification is the word

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The new one is: This streaming service is owned by one the most evil people on the planet, and it comes included with my phone plan, but I'm just going to pirate everything anyway, just because Fuck Them.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Add to this, "this service will only stream in 480p on Linux"

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (11 children)

    Okay I gotta disagree partially on the third panel. I'd much rather have the option of purchasing individual movies or shows than having a subscription. Like, imagine we had Steam but instead of games, it was shows and movies? That'd be great. Imagine the sales! PatientWatchers amirite?

    Unfortunately it's rarely possible to actually purchase, and definitely not without any DRM. So the third panel should really say "This show is not available for purchase" or only mention renting or specify that it's with loads of DRM or whatever.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Except after you rent/buy the video, you can only watch it as long as you pay for the subscription service you bought it from.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    That's not what buying means or at least not the "buying" I am talking about. I mean I give some amount of money and I receive a download of the purchased material, free of DRM. There is no subscription involved. Like Steam (with no DRM) or GoG, but for movies and shows instead of games.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    If it is anything like Steam, then you keep this media available to redownload as long as you wan. Same as Steam games that got delisted are still downloadable and playable.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    "purchasing" media you mean.

    Unless they let you download the file without DRM, you're just renting the video with extra steps. We have seen many times that "purchased" videos from digital vendors gets revoked and the "purchase" is gone.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    Do what you want, cuz a pirate is free

    You ARRRR a pirate!

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    One thing that I will enjoy with the slow demise of streaming is that the current generation will git gud at IT again. It's kinda shocking, as an older millenial/xennial, how bad some of the Gen Z's I work with are with basic IT tasks whereas X's and M's are fine with it as we've had to deal with Napster and Limewire

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I turn full pirate at the first stage already. I despise ads so much.

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    [–] 7 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    For piracy I mostly go to those watch online sites with ad block and stuff turned on. I used to torrent but I don't do that much anymore.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I torrent because I care about quality. I can usually find 4K torrents of stuff I like.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (6 children)

    Where are you finding torrents? Been a long time. Is piratebay still a thing?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    TPB should be your last resort. If you dig around, you'll find other sites which are far better.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Any suggestions? This is me digging around!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Same, but oh my god I miss WatchEpisodes. It would track what episodes you had actually watched already. I have a shit memory in some cases and an extra-shit memory when it comes to remembering which episode I watched last lol

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  • [+] 7 points 8 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    The following advice does not apply to piracy, it's just general torrenting advice for downloading legally available content.

    1. Install qbittorrent.
    2. Use a VPN (windscribe has a free tier) whenever qbittorrent is running, even in the background, even when you aren't downloading. Make sure qbittorrent doesn't run on startup, it's in settings. This makes sure nobody can see that your IP is torrenting perfectly legal content, for privacy.
    3. Find a torrent. If you go to the pirate bay (top result on duckduckgo), be sure not to choose any copyright protected content, as torrenting that would be illegal in most places.
    4. Search for your legally torrentable movie/show and press the magnet (or copy the magnet link) next to the torrent with the most seeders (SE)
    5. paste the link into qbittorrent, optionally select "download first and last pieces first" and "download sequentially", if you want to watch while downloading.
    6. Always check the file extension of any files before opening - mp4 etc is safe, don't run any .exe files. There is malware out there, especially in torrented games.
    7. Be nice and keep seeding torrents after downloading
    8. Enjoy your legally acquired content!

    There's a piracy comm on lemmy at lemmy.dbzer0.com.

    (If any mods don't want advice for legal torrenting here, apologies and feel free to delete my comment)

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Make sure qbittorrent doesn’t run on startup, it’s in settings

    In Advanced settings there's the ability to bind to a network. Bind to the vpn and qbittorrent won't work at all without the VPN engaged.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    True, though I've found this to frequently break after reboot

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    "THE ONE PIECE... THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!"

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