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[–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I really don't see the appeal nowdays, so many options out there, including collabora (which has the community version).

I really wanna see the way they'll do.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Collabora is a mess. It essentially streams an image from a server running the office suite, and is always an unresponsive mess to use, and gets worse with bad connections.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Cool..... But like, people know apps exist right? And networked storage? Why does everything gotta be a webapp... Feels like only a matter of time until my desktop calculator is running in Electron.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I recently deployed OnlyOffice for my Nextcloud. Sometimes I want to collaborate with other people in real time on a single document, and the web client is perfectly usable for that. I'm hoping LibreOffice Web can grow into a usable alternative.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yeah. Currently using Google Docs for real-time collaboration.

    Would be really cool if I could use LibreOffice instead. Especially cool if I could be hosting the instance on my own software.

    A) No longer giving Google free reign to train its AI on my writing before it's even published.

    B) No worries about losing all my documents if Google ever decides to ban me.

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  • 51 comments in c/selfhosted@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 84 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Some new EU funding in the background?

    I'm quite happy with local apps, but I could see the appeal for self-hosting if the server would scale for the client (ie laptop on the desk vs mobile phone on the road)

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    How’s this project going to interact with Collibre Collabora (sorry!)?

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    My first gut reaction was "Neat, but no thank you" but the more I think about how many clients COULD be using a cloud hosted privacy respecting platform instead of 365, I quickly bit my lip.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    They say in their post that they won't host it.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I hope they're able to move toward a client first renderer instead of the image tile approach they used previously. That was kinda a network hog and cludgy to use.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago

    OMG YES!!!

    This makes me really happy because it'll make collaborating with friends on things a lot easier.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I was just looking if something like that exists yesterday, but got disappointed. Nice timing.

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Check out CryptPad.org, it's:

    • Open Source; so it can't be taken away from you should the org cease to exist.
    • Self-hostable; although you can use or pay to use other people's instances.
    • Collaborative; with real-time editing like Google docs
    • Federated; so you can collaborate with others whether you're using a self-hosted instance or using any other server.
    • End-to-end encrypted: The server admins can't see any of your data.

    Only downsides so far is that the UX is a bit slow when first loading documents and there are no mobile apps.

    EDIT: Forgot to add the important par, they recently added support for OnlyOffice in the browser, which to me, was a pretty big deal.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Love Cryptpad, but am I the only one for whom the loading indicator gives a bad flashback to early js framework web development where every website was 16 times the initial load time, 4 times the overall size and just more buggy. Website SPA or not have rarely a good reason to have a loading indicator for the initial load the browser already does that.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    fuck yeah. I'll happily deploy this to my stack.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Fingers crossed this can be a viable replacement for Collabora Online with Nextcloud, which has been a nightmare.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    has it been a nightmare? I'm genuinely asking because I have it set up (with nextcloud master container) and although I don't use it very often, the times I do it seems quite alright

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I recall spreadsheets being particularly painful on mobile when I’d try to select multiple rows and it would select way more at a time but would need to fouble-check that or find a screen recording if I made one at the time.

    The main issues is there was a bug where if there is an open session for a document in Collabora (including dead sessions say from mobile) and that Collabora server is shut down in the wrong order, then all changes including if you click “Save” will be lost. A bug was opened for this and closed by making sure the servers shut down in the correct order, but I don’t know if that fixes cases where the servers a hard shutdown.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    That'll be nice to see. I like Collabora but haven't tried hosting it. Opening that up and LibreOffice up side by side with the tabbed interface, barely any different. Maybe LibreOffice exposes way more buttons in each tab so maybe more intimidating but it looks pretty good compared to what I remember when the tabbed interface was first made available. Looking forward to seeing this progress

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Great!

    I'd love to see libre office on my personal nextcloud instance. That would be an easy and effective "feature" for nextcloud which could be adopted by many business. They're already running Nextcloud, maybe, for the digital sovereign.

    Anyway, thanks for your efforts!

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Wasn't collabora trying to be this

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    As someone who is slowly moving off big tech, are there plugins or themes for these office suites that bring then more in line with modern UIs for office suites.

    I hate Msoft and Google but the gsuite has a nice clean set up. Microsoft less so but still doesnt feel as unwieldly as open office. I was doing a doc last night and ended up getting the chrome flatpak and signing into docs.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    If we're talking about online editing, Collabora has web editors based on LibreOffice but with a modern UI: https://www.collaboraonline.com/

    They are really great and can be self hosted (e.g. with Nextcloud).

    For offline editing, as already mentioned, LibreOffice has an optional ribbon UI and OnlyOffice looks pretty modern as well.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I think Libre Office is fantastic and I'm glad to see the back of Microsoft. But I miss how useful mail-merge was and how limited it is in Libre. It's my only small complaint among so many cheers for Libre.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Awesome! 😁

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Because you can use it on any device without having to install the whole app and sync the data separately... It's super convenient, and cross-platform.

    It's still self hosted and you own the data.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I thought tools like OnlyOffice filled in that gap. Nice to see an alternative.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    People seem to be doling out some hate for OnlyOffice because of its compatibility with MSOffice formats.

    I may be reporting it wrong. I didn't get it at the time, either.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Back in 2020, those of us who had been using the OnlyOffice community document server were greeted with a notification stating that mobile editing was no longer supported and that we'd have to buy their commercial product.

    Some folks quickly figured out a patch. Others, like myself, left with a bad taste in our mouths.

    https://github.com/nextcloud/documentserver_community/issues/94

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think it has to do with a recent decision by OO to default save all files in MS format vs an open format ? I saw some post about it on Mastodon. I use LO

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    This should open it to being used collaboratively.
    Then I can convince wherever I work, to use this instead of going with other MS stuff?

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Why? Why anyone needs online version?

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Realtime collaborative documents. One thing that comes to mind is notes for my DND party.

    Would be nice to keep em somewhere everyone can access and add to, no extra client software install required.

    I've been looking at hedgedoc for this exact purpose, but then everyone in my party would have to learn markdown, and they're not all tech savvy.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    But markdown is so easy to learn. They can even ignore most of it, probably.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    I mean... When friends or people at my work place plan a party and want to organize who brings what, they share an MSOffice or Google Calc link around, which allows you to enter stuff and see in real time what the others enter.

    That would be nice to do with LibreOffice instead.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    How long until someone uses a LibreOffice Online instance to drop a Google doc on someone?

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  • 3 comments in c/freesoftware@lemmy.zip view that post
    [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    LibreOffice Online: a fresh start

    LibreOffice is a desktop application, but we get many requests for a web-based version of the suite that users can deploy on their own infrastructure. Several years ago, project members started to develop LibreOffice Online, but in 2022 the Board of Directors at The Document Foundation voted to freeze the project and put it in the “attic”, for reasons that have now been superseded.

    Earlier this month, the current Board of Directors decided to revoke those votes to give new life to the project, as Eliane Domingos, chairperson, put it:

    To start the process of freeing LibreOffice Online, and to start the journey that will lead to having an online version by the community and for the community.

    Now the work begins. We plan to reopen the repository for LibreOffice Online at The Document Foundation for contributions, but provide warnings about the state of the repository until TDF’s team agrees that it’s safe and usable – while at the same time encourage the community to join in with code, technologies and other contributions that can be used to move forward. We will actively work with the community to identify how to foster LibreOffice Online, including its technological basis, QA and marketing.

    Note that this doesn’t mean that TDF will host or provide enterprise support for LibreOffice Online – that’s beyond the scope of the foundation. For these things, users are strongly recommended to consult the commercial ecosystem around LibreOffice. But TDF wants to offer the technology for those who want to use, modify and share it.

    We will post more soon about our plans, and ways to get involved. We look forward to a new future for LibreOffice Online!

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago*

    I've heard some people are a bit salty about this because of Collabora and the work they've done, which may be a fair point.

    FWIW, I've never gotten Collabora to work in a functional/usable way. I've tried it in Nextcloud, and tried to just host it all on it's own and it's never been what I'd call usable.

    If LibreOffice can develop this in a way that's (relatively) easy to deploy and is actually usable, I'll be happy.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago