"Tuna fish" is a phase used primarily for canned tuna, but not for the live fish or things like tuna steak. It's because when canned tuna was created in the US in the early 1900's people who were not right next to the sea (like the majority of the US) did not know what "tuna" was. Firstly, the word is a of Spanish origin and secondly, its a salt water only fish. So in order to sell this to middle America, which was where most of the consumers were at the time but was also made up of people who have never seen the ocean, they added the word "fish" to show like other tinned fish that was commonly purchased: codfish, bluefish, and whitefish, this is also a fish and that is what you can expect when you open this can.
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There's no one single reason, but the top theories:
- Tuna oil was a thing before "tuna fish". Yes, people could have said "tuna" but they didn't. That's language for you. People say "ATM machine" and "PIN number", too.
- "Tuna fish" has a slightly sing-song pattern to the stressed/unstressed syllables that probably contributed
- For whatever reason, "tuna fish" tends to refer to canned tuna, whereas "tuna" can include fresh (or frozen) tuna.
It's⦠just how language evolves.
I think, however, that "tuna fish" is slowly dying out in favour of just "tuna". As a 50 year old, anecdotally I have seen the usage decrease in my lifetime.
I bought some tuna fish and chai tea with cash i got from the atm machine
cash money
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Colloquially tuna fish refers to the shredded salt brined tins of fish like this:

Which I do think is worth distinguishing from the actual whole pieces of tuna
Which I do think is worth distinguishing from the actual whole pieces of tuna
So a tuna can...? Canned Tuna? Canned Fish?
"Tuna Fish" is still redundant and doesn't actually address the can
Yes, language evolves haphazardly and often doesn't make literal sense.
Alright, that's my 2 cents. I'll catch you on the flipside.
The concept could be as old as the New Testament, but apparently this specific phrasing is from the early 1900s, so it'd be about 60-70Β’ now depending on which year you want to pick.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/two-cents-and-sensibility/
Flipside of what? Are we flipping coins, and you will see us underneath the coins?
Like how using the word "literally" somehow became not literal.
I want the destroy those people. Literally.
Wait till you hear about βsoda popβ
I don't disagree with you but I don't control American English. I imagine both head cheese and sweetbreads would also upset you
I donβt control American English
Maybe try harder. Be the change you want to see in the world. I don't necessarily believe in you but I'm sure someone does! And in the end that's all the motivation you need.
sweetbreads
One of my favorite pair of words that don't get used much anymore is sweetmeat and sweetbread, with the former being candy and the latter being animal pancreas.
The etymology is that meat (from mete) just meant food, and bread (from bræd) meant flesh. Sweet used to mean a more generalized pleasant taste or sensation, rather than more specifically sugary.
Look, Americans are genetically dumb as we all know, but I don't think Tuna Fish is necessarily a consequence of that affliction in particular. It's like saying "Sail Fish", "Sail" is not a fish, it is the canvas you put on boat masts, and "Tuna Fish" is like that I think. It's a type of fish, of the tuna kind. That said, before I go just let me take another opportunity to state that Americans are genetically dumb as we all know.
If you want to talk eugenics, Twitter is that way ->
Hahaha eugenics? Have you considered not skipping school and stop drinking lead paint? First of all it's a fucking joke, second of all, there was no mention of eugenics, thirdly, how do you think intelligence works? Magic?
So tinned tuna
Why do they need to specify it's in water? It's a fish, of course it needs to be in water.
Brined tuna is an abomination before God. It must be sunflower oil.
As an American who was only ever said tuna or tuna sandwich, etc. I do think "Tuna fish" has an appealing flow (euphonious consonants without any blends) and the ish pairs well with ich in sandwich
In my mind, tuna fish is the shredded stuff in a can and tuna is bigger pieces
No, nonono, now you are committing semantic sins that weren't even implied in the original post! It's either or, you can't have different names for tuna solely depending on what type of package they come in, that makes even less sense!
Tuna fish is the chicken bird of the sea water.
Well, where I live, Tuna is also a cactus. Prickly pear is often called tuna. So yeah, tuna (fish) and tuna (fruit) can need disambiguation.
Where do you live?
Florida. It's this plant, nopales are the leaves, tuna is the fruit. Also the whole plant and the fruit are called prickly pear, but when I see it for sale (as food), it's Tuna. Nopales taste sort of like green peppers to me.
Opuntia - Wikipedia https://share.google/l2Ax80KhUVxMh7r7A
Horse back riding
If you donβt specify, Americans will ride the wrong part of the horse
Thanks to Catherine the Great, we all have to specify which part of the horse we're going to ride.
I thought it was Mr. Hands, the aerospace engineer, that made us require that distinction.
What was that acronym he came up with, something about I don't need a bucket cuz the horse is just the right height π€―
I vaguely rember Catherine the Great*, but I dont remember anything about a horse.
I am ready to learn though
*
Was she after Henry the 8th? The first Queen to rule without a king by her side?
For this one could it be horse back riding because people also used to have horse carts ? Unless in other countries itβs different lol
If we didn't say that, we wouldn't have the joke about the difference between a piano and a fish.
You can twist knobs on a guitar, but you can't make it drink.
I think it's mostly for the dad joke:
You can tune a piano, but you can't tune a fish.
I feel there's some joke to be made involving that ribbed fish shaped instrument we used to play with in elementary school
Dad joke or name of a great album. That the the dad joke came first is pretty much beyond dispute, lol.
What's the difference between a tuna and a piano?
One makes hideous sounds when I try to play it as a musical instrument, and the other I can play reasonably competently.
We have to specify so that Jessica Simpson doesn't get confused with Chicken.
The opposite of "cow steak"
Tuna was not always popular and when people didn't know what it was it helped people know what they are buying. The US also having a large portion of bilingual people with a Spanish base, this helps it not get confused with cactus fruit (apparently tuna in Spanish)
Tuna means prickly pear cactus fruit in Spanish, I've heard it called that pretty often in Texas
Iβve noticed the same thing with Koi. But not with trout or bass or most other fish.
It makes sense for swordfish, because just sword is ambiguous.
Language is weird.
Of note, the homophonic word, Tuna means the large fish with lots of mercury in it in English, and means the fruit of the prickly pear cactus in Spanish. I've made honey wine (mead or in this case melomel) with tuna, the fruit, and it's amusing to hear people's reaction to "tuna melomel".
its tuna fish because it refers specifically to the canned tuna fish sandwich and additional ingredients.
βHand me that can of tuna please, I want to make a tuna fish sandwich. β
These words have come out of my mouth.
Yes theyβre wrong. But something about the cadence.
Come to think of it, we do say "tuna fish sandwich", but we also say "tuna salad sandwich".
Tuna is just the dish, tuna on a plate.
Tuna Fish is actually Tuna Salad. You would order a tuna fish sandwich (tuna salad), but you would not go to a restaurant and say "I will have the tuna fish" because that is just tuna.
If I want the tuna salad, Iβll order tuna salad.
Also if Iβm walking up to a sandwich shop or a restaurant that serves tuna steaks on a grill or something of the sort and say βIβll have the tunaβ the assumption is, they know I what I mean (variance for multiple dishes not included).
Listen, yβall eat something called spotted dick - you can let us have tuna fish with no damn grief thank you
The American English language is wierd... Two to four instances of one word to mean different things or to put emphasis on plurals or not... Plus certain connotations depending on who you're talking to. So trying to go and learn different languages, especially when they only have one instance of something, I have found.
They donβt have to say βtuna fishβ. Most donβt, as far as I know. Who are you hanging out with that you think itβs somehow mandatory?
Why do they call their babies "Baby Joe" or "Baby Velma"? We know they are babies. Do they also call them "Young Adult Joe", and "Middle Aged Velma"?
I am having tuna fish as opposed to tuna steak.



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