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[–] 48 points 9 months ago

That headline is every buzz word to tickle a Lemmy user’s taint. I say that with all the sincerity in the world because I too want one.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago

    The skeptic in me is a little suspicious, this sounds too good to be true. I've already been burned out from other crowdfunded projects where the company just dissapeared or simply couldn't deliver anything before running out of money. Like the Pandora.

    Nowadays I only back projects from companies that have successfully released something before, so this will be a wait and see. If they can deliver I may buy one when it's released.

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  • [–] 68 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    I hate how much this marketing works for me 

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Four hundred bucks for 8gb of ram, three face plates, the upgraded uber slow processor and 128gb of storage. 3.92” amoled screen.

    Four fifty for an ayn Thor with 16gb of ram, 1tb nvme. 6” amoled screen and 3.92” bottom amoled screen.

    That’s how I escaped the marketing. Pricing and specs. If your primary use case is just gaming and not a very low power handheld PC, it’s just not good.

    A $90 miyoo mini plus 128gb is just fine for small portable handheld emulator too. Sold on Amazon and not a kickstarter fantasy that could take years. I’m sure there’s many other better options.

    These things don’t have feature parity. They don’t do all the same things. They are however way better at what they do.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Lol me too!! After I looked I wasn't too interested. Also crazy you mentioned Thor, that's the device I don't need that I can't stop thinking about.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I have thought about the thor or whatever vita looking thing they have but the reality is that I probably wouldn't do a ton of emulation right now. These devices look cool as hell, but I don't need more tech ewaste/paperweights.

    I have a deck and hardly use it when I go anywhere because being an adult is a shitload of responsibility and relationship work... and next to no time alone where I can game in peace. lol

    If I still had a subway/train commute or I was still a bachelor in my 20s or 30s it would be another story though. Deck is way too big for the subway, but the thor is basically just a 3DS. I used a 3ds/vita/ds for over a decade almost daily because of my commute.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I love my Ally X deck. That's why I didn't buy a Thor. I can run emulators on that. I'm afraid to take it anywhere. And yeah, it feels more like the weight of a musical instrument than a handheld device.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Which completely counters all the "if a product needs marketing it's a lousy product" arguments

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I think if a products budget is mostly spent on marketing it might be worth a miss.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If someone spend more effort advertising their product than they are developing it, then I would question their product.

    However, a lot of people here seems to have negative sentiment against all forms of marketing. Hopefully I'm misinterpretting it.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago*

    Is the whole bottom half just for a modular thingy. Could it just be a phone half that size, put a usbc on the bottom and some rails to accept an interlocking modular whatever.

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I don't need it... I don't need it... I don't need it... I don't need it...

    (M.2/NVMe, LTE and 5G, GPIO)

    I don't....

    (Planned support for LoRa, Meshtastic, and FPGAs)

    I...

    (Everything open source, useful for me at work, employer will pay for)

    Sold!

    It doesn't seem to be especially performant for games based on the videos they've put out, but a solid handheld with these specific features, and separate from my mission critical work android phone will hopefully be very useful.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    No. You don't need it.

    Just get a used ThinkPad for work, and whichever handheld game console if you want to play while on a trip.

    Run Linux on ThinkPad. It's open source too.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It's great you have a solution for yourself - and it's good to share. But please don't intentionally try to destroy someones excitement with something like "No, You don't need it". We don't need more negativity.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Thank you for calling this kind of behaviour out, but hopefully you can see I was mimicking OP's "I don't need it" self-convincing speech, by being his "angel on the shoulder". It was done in a joking manner, and I apologise to any one who interpreted it in another way.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I already have a work laptop running Linux, but it doesn't support GPIO or LoRa without additional dongles/accessories. Working on industrial equipment while occasionally in remote locations, makes this device appealing to me specifically.

    I'm also fortunate to have my employer willing to foot the bill, especially when they can also see the utility of this device in our line of work.

    If you don't work in this specific niche, your mileage will obviously vary.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Great! Go for it then.

    I don't know what's LoRa though, but can't you just plug an Arduino board to the computer's USB port and get a bunch of GPIOs? It's cheap. It's durable.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Already done!

    LoRa is a low power radio communication protocol that is very useful for warehouse and farming equipment, among many other things. I currently use ESP32s for GPIO, LoRa, and Wifi, and occasionally FPGAs for various tasks. But ad-hoc testing and diagnosis can be a pain for these devices, requiring multiple different dongles, power adapters, and converters.

    If I can consolidate 75% of that gear into a single, handheld device, it will easily pay for itself in productivity gains.

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  • LTE and NVME is mutually exclusive on the device I believe.

    If all you need is a 3.92” screen, 8GB of ram or less, 128GB of space plus an sd card, and a tiny screen then it’s fine. Kickstarter though means unknown delivery date. I don’t think they’ve sold anything before?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    We'll see on it's release, but it's very positive the growing appearance of modular open phones with Linux based OS. Meanwhile there is FairPhone from the Netherland as years ago released mature product, full modular, using LinageOS or e-OS

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Just missing Bluetooth. But it's really cool! I guess you could plug in USB c headphones. Really like the HDMI port, could have done mini HDMI, but, regular size gives more flexibility. Edit: Oop it has Bluetooth, lost my money idk if I can stop myself from buying it

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mecha-systems/mecha-comet-modular-linux-handheld-computer

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm a little confused, can this thing run standard linux cli packages?

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I don't see the point of this.

    A smartphone is literally a handheld computer with more capability than this. Save for game controls, there is very little that a touchscreen doesn't completely replace with full flexibility (besides, unless it's the size of a Gameboy, the vertical controller layout sucks).

    This isn't a new concept either, as I'm pretty sure I've seen two phones and one whole laptop using this exact drop-in modularity gimmick. They all failed.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    Having a dedicated handheld device with the features of a smartphone, running Linux natively (not just android), and also GPIO and LoRa are what make this especially appealing to me. Everything being open source brings this from "I'll probably buy this" to "shut up and take my money" for me personally.

    Sure, I could probably get accessories to achieve the same thing with my work phone. But if something catastrophic happens and the phone is damaged, I'm having a very bad day. Damaging a $300-400 device sucks, but I can still call my boss and ask him to order a replacement and receive calls from customers at the end of the day.

    Of course these specific benefits are unique to me and my line of work. I also thankfully have a boss who trusts my judgment when purchasing new tools and tech, and a budget that can easily accommodate this kind of investment and risk.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It runs an actual OS and has a real keyboard. Gives me way more utility than any smartphone.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Or, you could put the resources that went into this thing that'll eventually become a forgotten novelty (e-waste), and develope a Linux smartphone that is fully open source.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Ooooooo. I like it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Modular computing always seems to fall victim to Moore's law/similar, everything core get so much better every 5 years, that by the time you want to refresh anything, it's usually time to upgrade the whole thing.

    Periferals are nice but USB is already a multivendor connector standard and if the choice is 3d printing cases or trusting a vendor to exist in 10 years I'm betting on 3d printers for now.

    Hope I'm wrong but this isn't the first time I've seen a project like this.

    At the end of the day the n900 was the ultimate portable Linux machine, but it died because within 10 years you could do all of that on an android device AND have a decent phone too.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Good thing moore's law is dead. Writing this from a 5yo phone. My pc got a 3700k. Something made today will have much more life in it

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    You are the exception, not the norm.

    Most people are on the bandwagon of buying the shiny new thing with a bigger version number once every year or two (even when the old one still works perfectly).

    The mecha comet is one of those devices that get hyped up among the nerds, but after a month 90%of them will either gather dust on a shelf or end up on the second hand market for cheap. You can see the same pattern in many nieche hardware subcultures, linux phones, flipper zero, raspberry pis, various digital music gadgets, AI bs hardware etc.

    (I have like 20 random things like that rotting in a box, just to be transparent)

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I personally can't say that I agree, especially in current economic conditions.

    Many people do buy the shiny new things regularly, but I would argue that most people can't afford that luxury and try to get the most life out of what they own.

    On a separate note: I can't speak to Linux phones, digital music gadgets, or AI hardware, but raspberry pis and flipper zeros on the second hand market are absolutely not cheap, and regularly sell for MSRP of new devices.

    I'm sorry to hear that you've struggled to find regular use of those 20 random things, but that doesn't mean your experience is representative of most people.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    It will either fail, or be bought then cancelled by a big company like Google

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    What about it? The Pinephone is still available.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Hey I've seen this before!

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    What's with the crappy, low end hardware?

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    It's not crappy, it's appropriate for the use case. This is not some flagship android phone, it's meant for tinkering, for texting, maybe some mariocart on the metro. Also the thing doesn't cost $1000+, which is a good thing.

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  • 22 comments in c/linuxphones@lemmy.ca view that post
    [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Has it got mainline kernel support? Anyone working on that?

    If not, it will be trash in approximately two years and I'd rather save the planet.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I pre-ordered so I read about it in their updates/blog, but they have been actively working on getting everything mainlined.

    Search for "Suspend-and-Wakeup on i.MX8MP" and they mention it briefly, they went more in detail about it in previous blogs though: https://mecha.so/blog/mecha-monsoon-update

    On top of working with the chip manufacturer to get the cpu side mainlined, they've also been working with the contractor firm "Igalia" (who've been hired to work on mainlining and upstreaming a bunch of open source projects the past few years) on getting the gpu drivers cleaned up and "mainlined" as well.

    Honestly a lot of the work they've been doing will benefit other linux on arm projects, especially mobile. I agree with you though, if a project isn't putting the work in to get everything mainlined, then its not worth considering (atleast to me). I wish Ubuntu touch and sailfish all the luck in the world, and respect the work their doing, but for me its not a option.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I thought the Mecha Comet wasn't a phone but apparently it has a 4G modem module. I am interested.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    DIY Phone

    Use the Comet and the Linux stack for calling*, messaging and mobile data as an alternate to your walled and closed smartphone. Contribute to the Linux ecosystem for mobiles.

    • No earpiece but the front speaker can do the trick.

    Limited to speakerphone, as it stands. Maybe someone will make an attachment that uses the GPIO pins to add an earpiece. Since the GPIO pins are on the bottom guessing that might be a little unwieldy though.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Looks like it's not fully functional yet. This was one of the most difficult parts dealing with Linux phones.

    https://mecha.so/blog/mega-mecha-march-2026-update#lte-testing-on-going

    as far as the speakerphone thing, I'm fine either using Bluetooth or the 3.5 mm headphone jack. But that's just me. It would be a hassle having to out something just to pick up a call but hopefully someone has a better solution like the one you suggested.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    They are also active on the fediverse, tho the mention auto complete here isn't picking uo their handle. It's funny to see this posted here I was just talking about the Comet to my partner over breakfast today.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I wonder if you'd be able to use pmOS with it

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That's a pretty crazy take. Boycott some American mega corps? Yeah ok. Boycott a tiny open source hardware developer? Uhhh. Boycott literally everything made in the USA? Probably involves living in the woods

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Well when they attack Canadian Sovereignty, it involves cutting out anything USA made or affiliated...as much as we can.

    It actually hasn't been that restrictive, as there are Canadian businesses that we've ignored. The USAs tariffing has actually strengthened our internal economy.

    Looks like every other country is also dropping USA based items and projects, because who knows what the current admin will force onto small businesses, or sudden cut off of services.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah I mean good luck, seems like you'd have to choose your battles. That's a lot to avoid - music, media, tech

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Yeah we have done those too. Paramount and Netflix cancelled. Canada has a free strwaming site from the CBC.

    I've repurposed hardware with Linux to get performance back instead of CPU upgrade for Windows.

    Repaired an older car instead of buying new (for many reasons).

    Grocery store has brought in more Mexican and overseas products since many people stopped buying USA products.

    Staycationing in our province.

    So far its been easy.

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    Mecha Systems is a USA based company. Since USA is actively destroying relations around the globe, and threatening sovereignty , there is no way I'd buy this even though it's a neat idea.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Ummm India is part of America.

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  • 13 comments in c/linux@programming.dev view that post
    [–] 21 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Until there's a physical product on shelves, I don't trust that it's not vaporware.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Intro video with choppy renders, seems cool but also high potential for vaporware

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Glad to see they're putting real effort into the hardware - I was worried that this was going to be just another "slap a RasPi in it and call it a day," but they seem to be promising some actual power efficiency.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Saw this the other day. It looks really cool. I hope it takes off.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    This looks like a handy little guy, but I'm gonna wait until it's real.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I have pledged, can't wait. But the goal of the kickstarter is pretty low.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Does it have a cellular radio?

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago

    Every time I've seen a person involved wiþ þis project demonstrating a prototype at a conference it's been a Indian (I'm racistly guessing; could be any if a number of SE Asian countries). I've decided 2 þings from þis:

    1. I'm giving a healþy amount of leeway for oddly phrased wording in þe campaign
    2. I have an unusual amount of hope þat þeir going to "do it right."

    A lot of stuff is designed in þe West and outsourced Eastward, and I've often seen overly optimistic expectations and eventual "supply chain issues" come up as reasons for delay and failure in Kickstarter. OTOH, one fairly complex project I supported which was entirely ideated and delivered from Hong Kong had a ton of communication problems, but it over-delivered on product and hit þeir schedules.

    I have no illusions about people in general, regardless of country. But I have high hopes for þis project in particular, maybe specifically because it isn't a highly polished campaign. I'm hoping þat þey're correctly focusing efforts on product and not marketing, and in consequence are going to deliver what þey promise. Hardware-wise, I don't believe any part of it promises anyþing exceptional from currently available technology. No magic displays, no unbeatable battery life. Most of it looks solidly sourceable. It's just an unusual form factor, and þe swappable panels are innovative but don't require new technology.

    I really hope þe project succeeds. It looks like it's being run by a bunch of young tech nerds, and boy am I in þeir corner.

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  • 2 comments in c/opensource@programming.dev view that post
    [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    So friggin cool, I'm immediately in

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