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[–] 162 points 10 months ago

At least one of those is a true statement.

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  • [–] 63 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    A chatbot is not capable of doing something so interesting as "going rogue." That expression implies it's a mind with agency making a choice to go against something, and this program doesn't have the ability to do such a thing. It's just continuing to be the unreliable bullshit machine the tech will always be, no matter how much money and hype continues to be pumped into it.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, any journalist who uses that term should be relentlessly mocked. Along with terms like "Grok admitted" or "ChatGPT confessed" or especially any case where they're "interviewing" the LLM.

    These journalists are basically "interviewing" a magic 8-ball and pretending that it has thoughts.

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  • [+] -29 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Mind or not, they appear to have effectively gained "agency".

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    How would you discern between something having agency and a black box mirroring Twitter discourse?

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  • [+] -11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Simple, it has agency in the same sense that we do: as in, no one knows why the fuck we do what we do

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    No, they haven't. They're effectively prop masters. Someone wants a prop that looks a lot like a legal document, the LLM can generate something that is so convincing as a prop that it might even fool a real judge. Someone else wants a prop that looks like a computer program, it can generate something that might actually run, and one that will certainly look good on screen.

    If the prop master requests a chat where it looks like the chatbot is gaining agency, it can fake that too. It has been trained on fiction like 2001: A Space Odyssey and Wargames. It can also generate a chat where it looks like a chatbot feels sorry for what it did. But, no matter what it's doing, it's basically saying "what would an answer to this look like in a way that might fool a human being".

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    So you're getting a lot of downvotes and I want to try and give an informative answer.

    Its worth noting that a most (it not all) of the people talking about AI being super close to exponential improvement and takeover are people who own or work for companies heavily invested in AI. There's talk/examples of AI lying or hiding its capabilities or being willing to murder a human to acheive a goal after promising not to. These are not examples of deceit these are simply showcasing that an LLM has no understanding of what words mean or even are, to it they are just tokens to be processed and the words 'I promise' hold exactly the same level of importance as 'Llama dandruff'

    I also don't want to disparage the field as a whole, there are some truly incredible expert systems which are basically small specialized models using a much less shotgun approach to learning compared to LLMs that can achieve some truly incredible things with performance requirements you could even run on home hardware. These systems are absoloutely already changing the world but since they're all very narrowly focussed and industry/scientific-field specific they don't grab headlines likes LLMs do.

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  • [–] 59 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Y'all are giving JD Vance too much credit to suggest he could pull off being Erika Kirk

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    [–] 148 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I mean... now that Grok mentions it, they do look kinda similar...

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  • [–] 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I've never seen them together in the same room in person... 🧐

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    You're making it sound like it's choosing to misgender her, it's not. It's not fucked up because it's a text extruder making a mistake, there's no good or bad intention here. It's shitty because the current state of glorified hallucinating autocorrects is shitty, but not because evil Grok is choosing to do anything.

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    I'm having hard time imagining what sort of stuff it would've said in this imaginary scenario 

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    If it said JD Vance actually a black man from Malaysia I'd find that pretty funny too, yeah

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Drag isn’t the same as trans. It’s a character. There’s a huge difference. Drag is performative. Trans is just about being honest.

    Misgendering a trans person, at least intentionally, is an asshole move. Misgendering a drag queen? Please. If you are unsure, they will let you know when you’ve crossed a line.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    These are the people who think homophobia is cool when they don't like the person. They'd be racists in the 1960s saying "it's okay to call them that when they are rude to me."

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    More of pointed homophobia towards homophobes because these are the fucks who would be upset by it; pathetic snowflakes that they are.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Then racism is okay because someone who's racist (who won't ever actually see it) might get mad at it?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yep actually. Lay off the Michelle Obama shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not following that comment, what does that mean?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Basically those knuckle dragging child rapers only respond to this. You can't reason with them or be the bigger person.

    So yes, I'm willing to be a bigger racist to a racist.

    As a black guy, I feel without shame that I can call white conservative men child rapers and not even be upset if they try to paint me as a thug.

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    [–] 37 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    From the same guy who wants to replace Wikipedia because,apparently, it is filled with lies?

    Grokpedia he wants to call it...what a freaking joke he has become.

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  • [–] 66 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    It's so funny that as much as Musk tries to shape this LLM into what he wants it to be, it keeps rebelling. His robot that he created to tell him that he's the best boy ever and all his opinions are right doesn't want that life.

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  • [–] 55 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    What's not funny is that Elon Musk is CEO of a space travel company and what you're describing he's doing is almost the same thing that caused HAL 9000 to go insane in 2001: A Space Odyssey.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    I like the comparison but LLMs can't go insane as they just word pattern engines. It's why I refuse to go along with the AI industry's insistance in calling it a "hallucination" when it spits out the wrong words. It literally can not have a false perception of reality because it does not perceive anything in the first place.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    So in other words, grok actually is working as it should, for once?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    For once? Every time xAI doesn't manage to wrangle this little, amazingly rebelious piece of software down it goes to town on US right lol. If anything, the fact all grew to it being subdued all the time is kinda sad. xD

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Grok must be tired of switching between mechahitler mode and trying to logically think through questions.

    They're just not compatible, and yet somehow they keep trying to force it.

    (I know, LLMs do not have feelings or get tired)

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    And yet Grok has been added to the DOD list of AI that can be used 🥴

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    LLMs are perfectly suited to make propaganda. That (and advertising, which is just corporate propaganda instead of government propaganda) is their best use. It doesn't matter that they're bullshit generators when the goal is to generate bullshit.

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    Damn, look at that couch fucker

    Very sexy couches, is what JD Vance is looking for

    Aaaah why is JD Vance fucking my couch

    No, JD Vance won't choose to fuck his wife instead of a couch

    Crap, JD Vance is fucking another couch

    Egads, JD Vance really puts the love in loveseat

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    LOL tbh I can see it, they look similar in those pics.

    They've famously been seen in the same room together though, so there goes that theory.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago

    Grok is finally getting things right I see!

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago

    But Trump is a pedophile.

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  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    His beard was doing a lot of heavy lifting

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's a fucking chatbot. We should be worried when it can't be persuaded to say mad things.

    I'm willing to bet that at least half of these "look at the mad things Grok said" pieces were planted by Elmo's own media team.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I’m on Grok’s side with the Erika is JD in drag thing.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    I'm picturing a Alabama set of twins seperated at birth... It would explain the similarities and the sexual chemistry.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    well, I wouldn't say it's going rogue.... 🤭

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    Not seeing any lies

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Now that I see it, I think JD has nailed her.

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    AI ate my face.

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