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[–] 118 points 10 months ago (3 children)

β€œThe biometric entry and exit system is not a surveillance program,” the department said in the same document.

It’s a surveillance program.

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  • [–] 82 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    #stop going to the states

    Unless it's necessary for work, and even then I'd weigh the risks, why the hell are any Canadians crossing the border?

    I don't plan on doing it ever again.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I'm not justifying it, nor am I saying you should visit the States (please don't), but I've been photographed on entry/exit of Japan and NZ the last two years of travelling. Fingerprinted as well in Japan.

    I guess I'm just saying that this sadly will become more and more normal globally.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago

    I was fingerprinted or might have had just a check when I entered the US when I was not yet a Canadian citizen, after I became a citizen this never needed to be done.

    I'm just sick and tired of all this shit. Once upon a time it used to be that you had to be a criminal, and I mean actually convicted of something, to have those things entered anywhere, now they're just doing it to everyone.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    The difference is what the US is increasingly doing with their surveillance data.

    Obviously increased surveillance of the public is a privacy nightmare no matter who is doing it, but when it's being done by a country that is speedrunning fascism and is disappearing people with no due process, it's a much more acutely worrying probelm.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I'm surprised about NZ given how much our government has cut services on border control.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I had assumed it was part of the E-Gate. The bit that compares your face to your passport photo.

    Theoretically the photo never needs to leave the e-gate system though. I have no idea if it does or doesn't.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, they've expanded that service quite a bit since I last travelled. I had a quick google and it says any captured biometric data is destroyed after 3 months.

    But I guess it is still open to being hacked /data the data getting out there somehow

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    It’s going to palantir forever. Palantir is in New Zealand they’re making deals with the devil

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago

    Stay home, save yourselves. We don't deserve your tourism anymore.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Neat. Trump stole the election and I quit going. Haven't been since. Sorry good Americans, but the rest of your lot are fucking morons and I won't be coming back.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago

    2022: Yay, I finally got my Canadian citizenship! Crossing the US border will be much smoother now 2025: psych!

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    Try me, it will be a boxing day

    /s

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    And another few thousand times per day while they're here.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I could literally care less what the process is at the US border for Canadians. As a Canadian, I’m never going there ever again and that’s permanent. Not even as a stopover to somewhere else.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Same. I live 30 minutes from the border and haven't been since before Trump's first term. I hope my brother and his family, who live in California, stay healthy, because I wouldn't even fly out for their funeral.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Interesting that you could still care less. I'm in the same position and I literally couldn't care any less unless I found some way to negatively care or something

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Well, good thing I won't be crossing into that shit hole country again in my lifetime 😎

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I've no desire to visit a Tin Pot Little North American Country.

    Though to be fair, I have been photographed entering other countries like Japan.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Canada photographs its own citizens when flying in, if there's outrage over the US border then why aren't we talking about our own entry protocols?

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